The Tipperary GAA Discussion Thread

evolvingtipperary101

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evolvingtipperary101

Confirmed that Tipperary captain Conor Sweeney suffered an ACL injury in Saturdays defeat to Down and will miss the rest of the season

evolvingtipperary101

Team.

callaway92

That’s a sad looking team I think. Not sure how much it can be improved on mind you

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120194076#Comment_120194076

I think it's good.

Paddico

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120188964#Comment_120188964

Thats terrible to hear.

So many good players lost in the last two seasons.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120196880#Comment_120196880

I heard there's only 8 left from 2020.

evolvingtipperary101

Ger Browne will not be available for Tipperary this season as he is set to undergo necessary knee surgery

evolvingtipperary101

I wonder with the possibility and reality of injuries in the Munster hurling championship, we'll continue to see players playing in different positions throughout the league. Maybe we might see something like in or two games: 

Barry Hogan

Breen   Ronan Maher    C Barrett

Campion     O’Mara    Heffernan

   Noel McGrath     Conor Stapleton

Kennedy       O’Connor      Dan McCormick

Morris            Forde               Sean Ryan

1373

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120199729#Comment_120199729

That's a very inexperienced line up . Breen, campion, o mara ,Stapleton, Kennedy, o Connor and Ryan, all making their debut or positional debut. M Ryan tried that 2017 ? And got destroyed and had to revert back to familiarity

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120200329#Comment_120200329

During the league? Destroyed? If you can't try new things in the league, what's the point of the league?

1373

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120200576#Comment_120200576

Apologies, thought you were talking championship. This is what the league is for alright

evolvingtipperary101

Billed as David v Goliath - Congratulations to @cashel_cs on the victory over @cbsthurles in the Harty Cup Final. Cashel played the game on their terms.

Billy Ocean

I was listening to Tipp Cast today and it was mentioned that Ger O'Dwyer was outstanding in the Harty final, on the match report i read he's down as unattached regards club, any idea what the story is there?

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120217835#Comment_120217835

He has applied twice to leave Rosegreen to go to Boherlahan. Rosegreen have objected twice. Think for him and his brother. I don't know what Rosegreen are trying to achieve. What's he going to do? Go back to a club who have twice prevented him leaving and who he wants to leave. They need to let him go and anyone else who wants to go. You can't hold them. Rosegreen are doing more damage to their club long term.

Last year, it went all the way to the DRA after been rejected by the County CCC and hearings committee.

They have played with Boherlahan under a gentleman’s agreement. Their father Brian was on the 1996 County championship winning team.

johntune

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218021#Comment_120218021

So coach them for 10+ years and let them leave for a bigger club against the rules and ethos of the GAA?

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218040#Comment_120218040

Rules and ethos change. If that's what the players and the family want, what can you do? Leave the players with no club? For what? They're leaving, there's no going back.

johntune

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218045#Comment_120218045

But they haven't changed.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218072#Comment_120218072

They're not just leaving for a bigger club. They played underage for them already. Their father won a county with the club. They have history with the club and have played underage with them. So, it's not just pursuing a bigger club.

So, your idea, is leave the players unattached? That's some tune. And it won't work. They'll get around this.

Whelan left Swans for Mullinahone. And these boys will leave too.

johntune

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218126#Comment_120218126

I agree they will get around it but it doesn't make it right. The small club shouldn't have to roll over. They potentially might not be able to field teams if the transfers go through.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218190#Comment_120218190

But if the players already had to play with the other club underage to get hurling, isn't there an issue with numbers already that's not the fault of the players? That's the curse of a small club. These lads had to go to another club to get games on an agreement. They've played with a club and built relationships with that club through hurling with them. Rosegreen does have issues with numbers, and this has happened due to that problem. Now, Rosegreen must be one of the smallest clubs in the county and they're fighting their corner but these young lads can't be held accountable or made to suffer because of it either. There is a double-edged sword to the numbers problem. In total, there's seven transfers lodged over the month of January by players from Rosegreen to their bigger neighbours Cashel King Cormacs and Boherlahan Dualla.

johntune

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218254#Comment_120218254

You say these lads can't be made to suffer but what about the other players left in the club?

The County Board have put measures in to stop these type of transfers.

It's hard to see any reason why Rosegreen wouldn't object?

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120218331#Comment_120218331

Those other players want players back who want to play elsewhere? And have been playing elsewhere?

You can't stop these types of transfers. You can only stall them. And it always ends up worse for the smaller club because some locals will send their kids straight to the big club down the road rather than go through any transfer problems down the line when they see what's going on. That's the reality.

The knee jerk reaction is to object and I understand it. But they'd be better off playing a long-term gameplan, maintaining a relationship with the players and supporting them. Particularly players who look like they're going to be high profile because they can bring a lot back to a small club down the road if the relationship is still good. That's a real possibility.

evolvingtipperary101

About ten changes from the last day. The right way to go about it at this stage.

farmerval

A query for those with far greater knowledge of the players than me, how many of the 23 for tomorrow played in Cahill's underage teams?

KClon11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120227885#Comment_120227885

I think around 10 of them have. Johnny Ryan, podge campion, paddy cadell, jake morris, conor bowe, Bryan omeara, mark Kehoe, Gearoid oconnor, Barry hogan and eoghan connolly

Tipp 77

Seems like a sizeable Tipp crowd down here today.Good to see

farmerval

Conor Bowe was good, Noel McGrath rolling back the clock, Jason Forde was lively. Funny enough game. Tipp seemed to drop very deep for much of the second half. When David Blanchfield came on he cleared quite a bit of ball with no pressure on him. No one tried inside seemed to edge an edge on Huw Lawlor.

I thought Callanan took a world of punishment for I think one free? I didn't think Campion looked great at centre back, thought the other Campion did well when he came on. Ronan was excellent, Dan McCormack was more like himself strong and solid.

Fred Astaire

Not the greatest standard of game today but happy enough that we made 10 changes from the last day, went to Nowlan Park and won by a couple.

Happy that minutes are being given out to everybody, by winning today it gives us a good shot at making League final - don't want to invest too much in the League but it's good to get the habit of winning back.

Good to see us start to iron out the only real worry thus far under Cahill - losing when we have a big lead built up.

Already things looking a lot better than 12 months ago.

evolvingtipperary101

Last year's game between Tipp and KK was one of the worst inter county games I've ever seen. This year came close for a while. People saying this game was as bad weren't at last year's game or have short memories.

Tipp lost two players early. When players see a player going off injured early the gremlins can set it. I could be out for the league or the year here too.

Kilkenny came to win but the harder they tried in the first half the worse it got.

Plethora of concerning wides from both sides. Awful shooting.

We had a rookie full-back line for most of the game. Down to fourth and fifth choice

Our form players this short year so far, have been Forde, Stapleton, O'Connor, Brian McGrath, Sean Ryan, McCarthy, and Kennedy. Only Forde started. Ten changes from the last day. We're building a panel.

Got much needed minutes into players who haven't played this year. Seamie's first game for Tipp in a long time.

I think Tynan summed up our day, mixed the very good with the very bad. But like Tipp, there's a decent foundation to build on there. He's direct and takes his man on.

I liked the set up for the way we managed the game for the last 15 minutes. We had a plan for a change rather than trying to hurl ourselves out of it. We made Blanchfield look like a hoover but we were too busy clogging up space to care and hit them on the break. Every time they got within a couple of goals we tacked on a few points. It wasn't perfect but there was a plan and it can be built on now.

Serious questions to be asked of our physio. How did he let Barrett try to continue? Barrett would never admit he couldn't continue. He had to take the decision out of his hands.