So UFOs aren't a theory anymore - but we still don't know what they are

Overheal

Sure, that's great. Nobody can decide if they are a quantum leap in an enemy nation's spy technology, or if it's aliens, or whatever, but there seems to be no disagreement these days that it's not just delusion. This week, 60 minutes released a special on the military's UAP project and UFO declassification, and since then there has been nods of confirmation from former US officials, celebrities, athletes - and even the 43rd POTUS Barack Obama that these UAPs indeed exist, and move as described and that the US has no idea how they work or what their origin is. According to the 60 minutes piece have been observed for years, some pilots went on record saying they encountered these objects literally every day for years when they were on air patrol. Still tons of this such footage being classified by the US Gov (the famous F-18 video we have was leaked to press). Some pilots describe seeing an inarticulate object that just looked like a big tic tac that seemed to defy the laws of physics with no articulable propulsion system etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtMbBPzqHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw9aPEpfAOw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp6Ph5iTIgc

If we're assuming for truth that USAF pilots have seen for example, a tic tac, and other examples, that are flying through the air at impossible rates: 6, 7 G's, 13,000 miles per hour, etc. that does raise a lot of questions. Perhaps, if we assume this is a space probe of some sort, it is being controlled by some larger ship that transmits its power and kinetic energy, eg. like a tractor beam or some strong magnetic force. Or, if it is truly otherworldly, it could even be something observing us from outside our 3-dimensions, of which we perhaps would only be able to perceive, a tic-tac.

The way the pilots describe themselves trying to rationalize what they're seeing made it seem so synonymous with one of those spy-in-the-wild documentaries. You see animals for instance get totally blinkered when they spot camera equipment sometimes because they have no idea how to categorize it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ZQ1cmRxCw

ozmo

Clip in the first video above was shown to be a helium balloon and parallax making it appear its going much faster than it is. Other ones I think were I think actually thermal cameras - so show heat signatures rather than an actual black object - still unknown what it was though.

A UFO was seen diving into the sea and picking up another UFO in its beak just a few days ago.

silliussoddius

The U is still dominanting

Overheal

Speak of the devil. The US military JUST confirmed another video that has been leaked

“ New footage has emerged of a “spherical” shaped flying object that was captured via video by the US Navy off the coast of San Diego in July of 2019 The video was posted by Jeremy Corbell and comes days after a 60 Minutes segment that, judged by the viral nature of the clips and reactions, appears to have captured the nature’s attention. The Department of Defense has confirmed the veracity of the video to NBC News.

“The video shows an unidentified object floating over what is reportedly the Pacific Ocean and making sharp movements that seem to belie our current understanding of physics. The one-minute video ends with the object dipping and disappearing into the water. “It splashed,” military personnel said in the video, though no wreckage or evidence of the object was ever recovered from the Pacific Ocean near the location of the event.”

This might be the tic tac discussed in the 60 minutes segment.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbell/status/1393281339525255168?s=21

You weren’t far off fvp4

silliussoddius

Did the actual object move or did the camera recording the radar screen move?

banie01

Any thoughts that some of these sightings may be encounters with FA-XX or NGAD prototypes?

The USAF has made clear that whilst the F22 is its current air superiority fighter, that it has no real intent to upgrade it.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021/05/13/the-f-22-is-going-away-eventually-but-not-before-the-air-force-gets-comfortable-with-its-successor/
That the NGAD has already flown and exceeded spec in certain areas but has yet to be officially presented.
This in itself is odd, and couple that with the USAF's buy of F15ex and rumours of limiting the F35 buy.

The new f15 is an arsenal/magazine fighter whilst NGAD is a penetrating air superiority fighter with a potential for offloading targeting data to loitering arsenal fighters.

This would imply that the NGAD is both quite capable of penetration, low observable and likely 3d vectored thrust which would all hugely enhance maneuverability versus traditional airframes, even more so if flown unmanned.
Unmanned with 3d vectored engines and harrier style
Puff vents at nose, tail and wingtips would allow hyper-manueverability IMO.

The B21 is in flight test phase too and the long rumoured Aurora or indeed its successor at this point could also be in play here as possibilities surely?

The Americans are gearing up for near peer conflict with China and Russia the likely adversary.
Is this a means of showcasing capabilities and raising doubts in opponents?
Marco Rubio(I know, I know) thinks the objects may well be Chinese!
Is it a play for additional defence funding?

Overheal

silliussoddius wrote: »

Did the actual object move or did the camera recording the radar screen move?

Bit of both. The actual object moved the IR cameras were able to tag on to it's infrared signature and track it that way, so the reticle tracks its movement. Not a difficult software trick either, basic machine-learning, the system is told by the operator to follow the silhouette, the software just processes the basic image on screen. You can see a dot/X with the reticle that looks like the software approximating the geometric center of the silhouette every couple seconds before a signal is given to the camera actuators to update position.

Overheal

banie01 wrote: »

Any thoughts that some of these sightings may be encounters with FA-XX or NGAD prototypes?

The USAF has made clear that whilst the F22 is its current air superiority fighter, that it has no real intent to upgrade it.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021/05/13/the-f-22-is-going-away-eventually-but-not-before-the-air-force-gets-comfortable-with-its-successor/
That the NGAD has already flown and exceeded spec in certain areas but has yet to be officially presented.
This in itself is odd, and couple that with the USAF's buy of F15ex and rumours of limiting the F35 buy.

The new f15 is an arsenal/magazine fighter whilst NGAD is a penetrating air superiority fighter with a potential for offloading targeting data to loitering arsenal fighters.

This would imply that the NGAD is both quite capable of penetration, low observable and likely 3d vectored thrust which would all hugely enhance maneuverability versus traditional airframes, even more so if flown unmanned.
Unmanned with 3d vectored engines and harrier style
Puff vents at nose, tail and wingtips would allow hyper-manueverability IMO.

The B21 is in flight test phase too and the long rumoured Aurora or indeed its successor at this point could also be in play here as possibilities surely?

The Americans are gearing up for near peer conflict with China and Russia the likely adversary.
Is this a means of showcasing capabilities and raising doubts in opponents?
Marco Rubio(I know, I know) thinks the objects may well be Chinese!
Is it a play for additional defence funding?

While it does make some sense for next gen air superiority to have a scout plane and arsenal planes or launchers, no configuration of conventional flight systems could explain the behavior seen. 6-7 G's in an instant, 13,000 MPH top speeds in low atmosphere. The speed record of the SR-71, publicly, is 2,193 MPH. 13 kMPH is near orbital velocity, ISS orbits at 17136 MPH. These craft can seemingly attain those speeds in an instant with no visible propulsion or emissions, or friction effects from air such as shockwaves and heat. This is what would make me wonder if these objects were peering in from outside our understanding of 3 dimensions.

AidoEirE

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Didn't David fraser (navy pilot tracking vehicle from his fighter jet) say on Joe rogan that the vehicle actively jammed their radar which is an act of war.

So if this is true means the vehicle was of sophisticated intelligent origin and not just some object or balloon.

Must look it up again as its its been awhile since I watched it but wasn't it more the radar couldnt keep track of the movement, to close, to fast at zero to 100 something like that. Hover at sea level then boom orbit within seconds without any propulsion extremities.

I dont remember jamming a radar just the propulsion was so out of this world that radar wouldn't be able to keep up if needed.
Act of war for us, but not for "them" if going anything like that kind of propulsion.

Love those Joe Rogen podcasts. Find the the ufo stuff real interesting.

Bob lazar one pretty great ðŸ‘

Dohnjoe

Overheal wrote: »

Speak of the devil. The US military JUST confirmed another video that has been leaked

“ New footage has emerged of a “spherical” shaped flying object that was captured via video by the US Navy off the coast of San Diego in July of 2019 The video was posted by Jeremy Corbell and comes days after a 60 Minutes segment that, judged by the viral nature of the clips and reactions, appears to have captured the nature’s attention. The Department of Defense has confirmed the veracity of the video to NBC News.

“The video shows an unidentified object floating over what is reportedly the Pacific Ocean and making sharp movements that seem to belie our current understanding of physics. The one-minute video ends with the object dipping and disappearing into the water. “It splashed,” military personnel said in the video, though no wreckage or evidence of the object was ever recovered from the Pacific Ocean near the location of the event.”

This might be the tic tac discussed in the 60 minutes segment.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbell/status/1393281339525255168?s=21

You weren’t far off fvp4

Good (rational) discussion of it here

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/uss-omaha-transmedium-sphere-descending-to-the-sea.11711/

MadYaker

American sandbagging potentially? We will see what they release next month but id like similar info (and accompanying proof) to come from other governments as well. If this has happened already I missed it. Anything from Russians or the Chinese? They both have extensive air forces and space programs.

Edit: The only mention of Russian or Chinese sightings I can find come from American sources. As long as the yanks are the only people talking about this I'm in the strongly suspicious category.

posse Comitatus

You are all going to see a lot of UFO stuff in the MSM commencing from June 2021 onwards. This is not only because of Trumps EO. After decades of MSM ridiculing of anybody reporting UFO's, you will now see a stark reversal and a clear picture portrayed of "the UFO/Alien threat" going forwards. Why? Because the MSM is controlled by those who run the money system and they (haven't you noticed) are on the move.

The Real power structure on Earth is, Globalist - Central banks - Governments- the sheep, ie most of you.

The world wide Lockdowns all in Governmental lockstep, is the child of DAVOS.

There is no such thing as sovereign governments. It's a sham, always has been. (Geo political squabbles historically allowed, doesn't matter who is in power)

The War on terror has run its course.

Distraction......

You cant talk about the coming UFO disclosures without addressing the covid Psyop.

The experimental gene therapy has gone badly wrong with hundreds of thousands of reactions and tens of thousands of deaths, (far too soon) which has been totally covered up by the rotten MSM.

You don't think so? no such thing? Go Look at the official EU database for reactions/deaths,

here, www. adrreports.eu/en/ search_subst.html#

Go to C- then find BP, coronavirus drugs-view statistics

or check CDC’s VAERS database, for only 1% of the real U.S situation.

The globalist controlled military industrial complex has back engineered craft and developed their own AG vehicles, check out "Operation Deep Freeze" to understand some of the origins of this tech. The MIC has been operating such vehicles for decades. 95% of all real UFO sightings worldwide are black budget operations.

All UFO news coming from the MSM, June 2021 going forwards are false flags, designed to distract from the faltering globalist agenda which kicked off with the covid-19 Psyop and the coming manufactured financial crash.

QE = furlough payments minus government complaints (for now) the sheep graze on printed paper and ask no questions.

You saw them drop in the streets of Wuhan, but nowhere else? Look at the all cause mortality statistics for every country in the world from 2000 to 2020, and its crystal clear. (Plandemic NOT Pandemic) Who altered the definition of what constitutes a "pandemic". when and why?

Government designated "emergency situation" = "safe for emergency use only" = green light to dip the stupid sheep.

PCR tests = cycles set "off the chain too high" test are based on a synthetic virus, because C-19 cannot be sequenced because it doesn't exist. Inventor of the PCR conveniently dead August 2019, so he cant warn you again.

Flu miraculously dissapered in 2020 = all deaths recorded as covid, QED.

Your stupid money grabbing GP has been trained to tell you that Flu went away because everybody is wearing masks, and flu is a stupid virus, because it wont try pass a mask, nor can it tell the time, unlike covid, which is a smart virus, that will ignore the masks and knows it can attack, if you exceed 105 mins eating your dinner in public.

India traditionally suffers thens of thousands of respiratory deaths every year since records begun, due to poverty, crowding, old age and super high summer temperatures. Hence "the Indian strain"

C-19 is so infectious you must keep 2 meters apart, but they need to insert a swab up your nose to the blood brain barrier to find it? Vaccination by stealth + DNA profiling, nicely combined.

The sheep will be triggered to fear the Alien threat. meanwhile according to plan, they will finish all fiat currencies and introduce, digital ID, CBDC"s. Try the ECB website or BOE or the FED, for their CBDC plans.

'vaccines" = experimental gene therapy. Long term effects known only to BP/globalists only.

The Covid infection/transmission profile of an injected sheep is precisely the same as a human being capable of critical thinking. Globalist counter = set the vaccinated against the unvaccinated. The sheep are too stupid to see that they are not inoculated if the allow the emergency concoction into their body. FDA haven't and wont ever pass them as safe.

A controlled takedown of the worlds financial system is on the way, massive cyber attack? watch for the warnings just like event 101.

There is no Alien threat to Earth and never has been.

Everything is connected, the debt bubble, covid, the Experimental injections, the controlled MSM, Big tech, MIC, fabricated UFO threat, the Lockdowns, the systematic destruction of economy targeted by sector, high inflation, forthcoming shortages, their aim to achieve the removal of the middle classes, introduction of universal income, via the push to CBCD, leading to a CCP style digital social credit system to suit the globalist agenda.

Already you had, 2 World Wars, WMD, every single War/conflict planned, the Oil Crisis, Global Warming, Contrails, GM crops, Fl/water....

Did you really think they were going to leave us alone in this hundred year cycle?

Wake up!

or....

Since the above has all got to be a conspiracy theory (CIA invented term) your Cognitive Dissonance will allow you to dismiss the above go swiftly back to wearing your masks, taking the injections, still practicing social distancing, watching Netflix, Porn, etc etc etc.

fritzelly

posse Comitatus wrote: »

You are all going to see a lot of UFO stuff in the MSM commencing from June 2021 onwards. This is not only because of Trumps EO. After decades of MSM ridiculing of anybody reporting UFO's, you will now see a stark reversal and a clear picture portrayed of "the UFO/Alien threat" going forwards. Why? Because the MSM is controlled by those who run the money system and they (haven't you noticed) are on the move.

{{Mad anti vaccine rant redacted}}

I'm putting my money on aliens

Akrasia

Jon Ronson wrote a book ‘the men who stare at goats’ (which became an awful movie) which documents the US military’s adventures in psychic operations.

The military like to think they are brilliant at everything but there are plenty of gullible idiots at all ranks in the armed forces

Air Force Pilots who claim to see UFOs every day should be given better training on how to operate their equipment properly

I always thought the main reason these reports were classified was because it would be humiliating to reveal the ineptitude of the elites in the USAF and Navy, but recent media reports reveal that the media are just as gullible and stupid as the pilots and generals

https://youtu.be/-KDviXJCfHg

silliussoddius

posse Comitatus wrote: »

You are all going to see a lot of UFO stuff in the MSM commencing from June 2021 onwards. This is not only because of Trumps EO. After decades of MSM ridiculing of anybody reporting UFO's, you will now see a stark reversal and a clear picture portrayed of "the UFO/Alien threat" going forwards. Why? Because the MSM is controlled by those who run the money system and they (haven't you noticed) are on the move.

The Real power structure on Earth is, Globalist - Central banks - Governments- the sheep, ie most of you.

The world wide Lockdowns all in Governmental lockstep, is the child of DAVOS.

There is no such thing as sovereign governments. It's a sham, always has been. (Geo political squabbles historically allowed, doesn't matter who is in power)

The War on terror has run its course.

Distraction......

You cant talk about the coming UFO disclosures without addressing the covid Psyop.

The experimental gene therapy has gone badly wrong with hundreds of thousands of reactions and tens of thousands of deaths, (far too soon) which has been totally covered up by the rotten MSM.

You don't think so? no such thing? Go Look at the official EU database for reactions/deaths,

here, www. adrreports.eu/en/ search_subst.html#

Go to C- then find BP, coronavirus drugs-view statistics

or check CDC’s VAERS database, for only 1% of the real U.S situation.

The globalist controlled military industrial complex has back engineered craft and developed their own AG vehicles, check out "Operation Deep Freeze" to understand some of the origins of this tech. The MIC has been operating such vehicles for decades. 95% of all real UFO sightings worldwide are black budget operations.

All UFO news coming from the MSM, June 2021 going forwards are false flags, designed to distract from the faltering globalist agenda which kicked off with the covid-19 Psyop and the coming manufactured financial crash.

QE = furlough payments minus government complaints (for now) the sheep graze on printed paper and ask no questions.

You saw them drop in the streets of Wuhan, but nowhere else? Look at the all cause mortality statistics for every country in the world from 2000 to 2020, and its crystal clear. (Plandemic NOT Pandemic) Who altered the definition of what constitutes a "pandemic". when and why?

Government designated "emergency situation" = "safe for emergency use only" = green light to dip the stupid sheep.

PCR tests = cycles set "off the chain too high" test are based on a synthetic virus, because C-19 cannot be sequenced because it doesn't exist. Inventor of the PCR conveniently dead August 2019, so he cant warn you again.

Flu miraculously dissapered in 2020 = all deaths recorded as covid, QED.

Your stupid money grabbing GP has been trained to tell you that Flu went away because everybody is wearing masks, and flu is a stupid virus, because it wont try pass a mask, nor can it tell the time, unlike covid, which is a smart virus, that will ignore the masks and knows it can attack, if you exceed 105 mins eating your dinner in public.

India traditionally suffers thens of thousands of respiratory deaths every year since records begun, due to poverty, crowding, old age and super high summer temperatures. Hence "the Indian strain"

C-19 is so infectious you must keep 2 meters apart, but they need to insert a swab up your nose to the blood brain barrier to find it? Vaccination by stealth + DNA profiling, nicely combined.

The sheep will be triggered to fear the Alien threat. meanwhile according to plan, they will finish all fiat currencies and introduce, digital ID, CBDC"s. Try the ECB website or BOE or the FED, for their CBDC plans.

'vaccines" = experimental gene therapy. Long term effects known only to BP/globalists only.

The Covid infection/transmission profile of an injected sheep is precisely the same as a human being capable of critical thinking. Globalist counter = set the vaccinated against the unvaccinated. The sheep are too stupid to see that they are not inoculated if the allow the emergency concoction into their body. FDA haven't and wont ever pass them as safe.

A controlled takedown of the worlds financial system is on the way, massive cyber attack? watch for the warnings just like event 101.

There is no Alien threat to Earth and never has been.

Everything is connected, the debt bubble, covid, the Experimental injections, the controlled MSM, Big tech, MIC, fabricated UFO threat, the Lockdowns, the systematic destruction of economy targeted by sector, high inflation, forthcoming shortages, their aim to achieve the removal of the middle classes, introduction of universal income, via the push to CBCD, leading to a CCP style digital social credit system to suit the globalist agenda.

Already you had, 2 World Wars, WMD, every single War/conflict planned, the Oil Crisis, Global Warming, Contrails, GM crops, Fl/water....

Did you really think they were going to leave us alone in this hundred year cycle?

Wake up!

or....

Since the above has all got to be a conspiracy theory (CIA invented term) your Cognitive Dissonance will allow you to dismiss the above go swiftly back to wearing your masks, taking the injections, still practicing social distancing, watching Netflix, Porn, etc etc etc.

That’s me convinced b

Dohnjoe

posse Comitatus wrote: »

You are all going to see a lot of UFO stuff in the MSM commencing from June 2021 onwards. This is not only because of Trumps EO. After decades of MSM ridiculing of anybody reporting UFO's, you will now see a stark reversal and a clear picture portrayed of "the UFO/Alien threat" going forwards. Why? Because the MSM is controlled by those who run the money system and they (haven't you noticed) are on the move.

The Real power structure on Earth is, Globalist - Central banks - Governments- the sheep, ie most of you.

The world wide Lockdowns all in Governmental lockstep, is the child of DAVOS.

There is no such thing as sovereign governments. It's a sham, always has been. (Geo political squabbles historically allowed, doesn't matter who is in power)

The War on terror has run its course.

Distraction......

You cant talk about the coming UFO disclosures without addressing the covid Psyop.

The experimental gene therapy has gone badly wrong with hundreds of thousands of reactions and tens of thousands of deaths, (far too soon) which has been totally covered up by the rotten MSM.

You don't think so? no such thing? Go Look at the official EU database for reactions/deaths,

here, www. adrreports.eu/en/ search_subst.html#

Go to C- then find BP, coronavirus drugs-view statistics

or check CDC’s VAERS database, for only 1% of the real U.S situation.

The globalist controlled military industrial complex has back engineered craft and developed their own AG vehicles, check out "Operation Deep Freeze" to understand some of the origins of this tech. The MIC has been operating such vehicles for decades. 95% of all real UFO sightings worldwide are black budget operations.

All UFO news coming from the MSM, June 2021 going forwards are false flags, designed to distract from the faltering globalist agenda which kicked off with the covid-19 Psyop and the coming manufactured financial crash.

QE = furlough payments minus government complaints (for now) the sheep graze on printed paper and ask no questions.

You saw them drop in the streets of Wuhan, but nowhere else? Look at the all cause mortality statistics for every country in the world from 2000 to 2020, and its crystal clear. (Plandemic NOT Pandemic) Who altered the definition of what constitutes a "pandemic". when and why?

Government designated "emergency situation" = "safe for emergency use only" = green light to dip the stupid sheep.

PCR tests = cycles set "off the chain too high" test are based on a synthetic virus, because C-19 cannot be sequenced because it doesn't exist. Inventor of the PCR conveniently dead August 2019, so he cant warn you again.

Flu miraculously dissapered in 2020 = all deaths recorded as covid, QED.

Your stupid money grabbing GP has been trained to tell you that Flu went away because everybody is wearing masks, and flu is a stupid virus, because it wont try pass a mask, nor can it tell the time, unlike covid, which is a smart virus, that will ignore the masks and knows it can attack, if you exceed 105 mins eating your dinner in public.

India traditionally suffers thens of thousands of respiratory deaths every year since records begun, due to poverty, crowding, old age and super high summer temperatures. Hence "the Indian strain"

C-19 is so infectious you must keep 2 meters apart, but they need to insert a swab up your nose to the blood brain barrier to find it? Vaccination by stealth + DNA profiling, nicely combined.

The sheep will be triggered to fear the Alien threat. meanwhile according to plan, they will finish all fiat currencies and introduce, digital ID, CBDC"s. Try the ECB website or BOE or the FED, for their CBDC plans.

'vaccines" = experimental gene therapy. Long term effects known only to BP/globalists only.

The Covid infection/transmission profile of an injected sheep is precisely the same as a human being capable of critical thinking. Globalist counter = set the vaccinated against the unvaccinated. The sheep are too stupid to see that they are not inoculated if the allow the emergency concoction into their body. FDA haven't and wont ever pass them as safe.

A controlled takedown of the worlds financial system is on the way, massive cyber attack? watch for the warnings just like event 101.

There is no Alien threat to Earth and never has been.

Everything is connected, the debt bubble, covid, the Experimental injections, the controlled MSM, Big tech, MIC, fabricated UFO threat, the Lockdowns, the systematic destruction of economy targeted by sector, high inflation, forthcoming shortages, their aim to achieve the removal of the middle classes, introduction of universal income, via the push to CBCD, leading to a CCP style digital social credit system to suit the globalist agenda.

Already you had, 2 World Wars, WMD, every single War/conflict planned, the Oil Crisis, Global Warming, Contrails, GM crops, Fl/water....

Did you really think they were going to leave us alone in this hundred year cycle?

Wake up!

or....

Since the above has all got to be a conspiracy theory (CIA invented term) your Cognitive Dissonance will allow you to dismiss the above go swiftly back to wearing your masks, taking the injections, still practicing social distancing, watching Netflix, Porn, etc etc etc.

It's for Corona, but will do in this case

rtron

posse Comitatus wrote: »

The Real power structure on Earth is, Globalist - Central banks - Governments- the sheep, ie most of you.

The world wide Lockdowns all in Governmental lockstep, is the child of DAVOS.

The War on terror has run its course.

Distraction......

You cant talk about the coming UFO disclosures without addressing the covid Psyop.

The experimental gene therapy has gone badly wrong with hundreds of thousands of reactions and tens of thousands of deaths, (far too soon) which has been totally covered up by the rotten MSM.

You don't think so? no such thing? Go Look at the official EU database for reactions/deaths,

here, www. adrreports.eu/en/ search_subst.html#

Go to C- then find BP, coronavirus drugs-view statistics

or check CDC’s VAERS database, for only 1% of the real U.S situation.

The globalist controlled military industrial complex has back engineered craft and developed their own AG vehicles, check out "Operation Deep Freeze" to understand some of the origins of this tech. The MIC has been operating such vehicles for decades. 95% of all real UFO sightings worldwide are black budget operations.

All UFO news coming from the MSM, June 2021 going forwards are false flags, designed to distract from the faltering globalist agenda which kicked off with the covid-19 Psyop and the coming manufactured financial crash.

QE = furlough payments minus government complaints (for now) the sheep graze on printed paper and ask no questions.

You saw them drop in the streets of Wuhan, but nowhere else? Look at the all cause mortality statistics for every country in the world from 2000 to 2020, and its crystal clear. (Plandemic NOT Pandemic) Who altered the definition of what constitutes a "pandemic". when and why?

Flu miraculously dissapered in 2020 = all deaths recorded as covid, QED.

Your stupid money grabbing GP has been trained to tell you that Flu went away because everybody is wearing masks, and flu is a stupid virus, because it wont try pass a mask, nor can it tell the time, unlike covid, which is a smart virus, that will ignore the masks and knows it can attack, if you exceed 105 mins eating your dinner in public.


A controlled takedown of the worlds financial system is on the way, massive cyber attack? watch for the warnings just like event 101.


Everything is connected, the debt bubble, covid, the Experimental injections, the controlled MSM, Big tech, MIC, fabricated UFO threat, the Lockdowns, the systematic destruction of economy targeted by sector, high inflation, forthcoming shortages, their aim to achieve the removal of the middle classes, introduction of universal income, via the push to CBCD, leading to a CCP style digital social credit system to suit the globalist agenda.


or....

The parts in your post about an impending financial crash, removal of the middle class etc, what purpose will that serve?
How will crashing the world economies make things better or worse for people and authorities?

Dohnjoe

rtron wrote: »

The parts in your post about an impending financial crash, removal of the middle class etc, what purpose will that serve?
How will crashing the world economies make things better or worse for people and authorities?

Just think like a conspiracy theorist to answer any of these questions.

"Crashing economies will result in poorer people who are easier to control and manipulate, those in power will become wealthier and have more power".

Dr. Bre

Report yesterday didn’t confirm aliens exist.

silliussoddius

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Report yesterday didn’t confirm aliens exist.

No. More investigation needed $$$

gerrybbadd

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Report yesterday didn’t confirm aliens exist.

Of course it didn't.

But it didn't say they don't either.

Dr. Bre

They are back to being a theory

Dohnjoe

Dr. Bre wrote: »

They are back to being a theory

Of course. The US military are never going to state "hey that's a new type of drone we were testing out", or "that's a new type of weather balloon", or "that's a glitch in our tracking software", or "that's a Chinese drone we were following".

I am quite sure they can explain much of the footage, but it would be of zero benefit for them to do so.

gerrybbadd

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Of course. The US military are never going to state "hey that's a new type of drone we were testing out", or "that's a new type of weather balloon", or "that's a glitch in our tracking software", or "that's a Chinese drone we were following".

I am quite sure they can explain much of the footage, but it would be of zero benefit for them to do so.

Exactly this.

What's annoying me about the whole thing is, they're speaking about UFOs as if they just appeared out of nowhere one day in 2004, for the first time ever. All previous stuff is ignored, by the MSM and the US Government etc.

Are we to believe they really have no idea what these are? They've studied them in the past - Project Blue Book etc. Though in fairness, Blue Book was established as a debunking mechanism.

py2006

A lot of fake crap out there unfortunately...

But I fully believe there is life on other planets and I fully believe that there is craft out there (now confirmed) that can move beyond what we are capable of. We have seen footage of objects that if there was humans in them they would have died judging by the speed in which they have changed direction or accelerated.

Dohnjoe

py2006 wrote: »

A lot of fake crap out there unfortunately...

But I fully believe there is life on other planets and I fully believe that there is craft out there (now confirmed) that can move beyond what we are capable of. We have seen footage of objects that if there was humans in them they would have died judging by the speed in which they have changed direction or accelerated.

The report doesn't confirm.

py2006

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The report doesn't confirm.

Confirmed that they move beyond what we are capable of.

Dohnjoe

py2006 wrote: »

Confirmed that they move beyond what we are capable of.

Could be drones, anything.

Officially they are unidentified objects. Unofficially they may know exactly what they are, but if they are classified military tech, then I highly doubt they are going to expose that fact.

py2006

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Could be drones, anything.

Officially they are unidentified objects. Unofficially they may know exactly what they are, but if they are classified military tech, then I highly doubt they are going to expose that fact.

I think if they were simply drones we would know by now. The speed and change of direction is beyond anything we are capable of...

....unless its our own future tech being tested blah blah

Dohnjoe

py2006 wrote: »

I think if they were simply drones we would know by now. The speed and change of direction is beyond anything we are capable of...

....unless its our own future tech being tested blah blah

I'm sceptical. If you want, link a piece of footage you believe demonstrates this.

py2006

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I'm sceptical. If you want, link a piece of footage you believe demonstrates this.

You really think Nasa and the US Government have been fooled into not recognising drones?

Dohnjoe

py2006 wrote: »

You really think Nasa and the US Government have been fooled into not recognising drones?

Don't know, just interested in the clip/footage that you think is the strongest.

py2006

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Don't know, just interested in the clip/footage that you think is the strongest.

If you decide to do your own googling, start with what President Obama said recently and move from there.

Dohnjoe

py2006 wrote: »

If you decide to do your own googling, start with what President Obama said recently and move from there.

I have looked, and I haven't found any very compelling footage - that's not to say it doesn't exist. The clips I've come across are often blurry, grainy and could likely be one of many things. If there's a particular clip you feel is definitively an "alien craft", then please share.

Dr. Bre

py2006 wrote: »

If you decide to do your own googling, start with what President Obama said recently and move from there.

Obama once said about aliens - they control us. Obviously having a laugh

silliussoddius

py2006 wrote: »

If you decide to do your own googling, start with what President Obama said recently and move from there.

Maybe move onto the Bigelow/Puthoff crew?

Arbitrary

There have been lots and lots of really strange lights that could not be explained as drones around Stillorgan/Blackrock as of late. Some with a yellow hue, some with red and white flashing lights but moving erratically, that could not be a plane and a very large yellow one. I've also noticed some smaller white lights moving around the night skies.

Curious activity. No idea what they are, so I guess they are UFOs. :)

Probably just weather balloons or comets.

I saw a swan headbutt a UFO down by Portobello Bridge one night.

Arbitrary

Lay off the drugs, buddy.

Are you saying you don't believe my story? The swan's wings stretched out and it leaned back and then it headbutted something, full force. Most likely a firefly, but I can't be sure. After it was hit, the unidentified object tumbled a bit then it soared up into the air a few inches and disappeared. Draw your own conclusions. 😊

Why is the assumption always made that spacecraft will be huge? Maybe for engineering and physics reasons it's easier to send small robotic craft across vast distances using whatever method 'the aliens' are using, wormholes or quantum entanglement or whatever other weirdness they've come up with that we haven't.

McGiver

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117559834#Comment_117559834

What are you exactly disputing? That the best military, and Navy, don't know what they are doing? That they saw balloons....

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2165713/statement-by-the-department-of-defense-on-the-release-of-historical-navy-videos/

US Military have officially confirmed they've recorded dozens of these incidents in last 15 years and that they believe the ones which are truly unidentified are not foreign adversary nor their own (e.g. secret programme). And they confirmed this is a matter of national security - hence the report and hence the creation of the UAP Task Force.

Report here:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf

You may need to check documentary and evidence on the Nimitz encounters (2004) - 2 professional navy pilots seen the UFO, the best US military radar on the carrier recorded the object, and the radar on the E-2 Hawkeye recorded it too. That's 3 independent observations of the same object.

Kevin Knuth, PhD, former NASA employee and astrophysicist has been studying the phenomena and wrote a few papers estimating the velocities, accelerations etc of the well documented objects (which had radar and visual footage for example). You may need to check some of his videos, podcasts or papers.

I am a very sceptical person with background in science. But the recent developments are a game changer, in my opinion.

Dohnjoe

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117649670#Comment_117649670

Fair enough, do you have a link for a specific one that is very compelling? Is there one in particular that stands out

McGiver

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117650225#Comment_117650225

I've already given you all info you need. Do your own research and take it from there. The paradigm has changed if you carefully read the US Intelligence Report.

Dohnjoe

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652792#Comment_117652792

Thanks. Whenever I go look this stuff up, I find the video in question being discussed on a skeptics forum with several plausible hypotheses.

If there is a particular video you feel is compelling, then please let me know, so far I haven't found any that stand out (I'm not saying there isn't, but I haven't come across one yet)

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652978#Comment_117652978

It's not about videos. It's about pilot visual account + pilot FLIR account + radar tracing - all that combined.

The incidents with multiple confirmation methods (IR, visual, rader) of the same objects are quite compelling IMHO. And these are the incidents that gave impetus to the US Intelligence report and establishment of the UAPTF and a framework for monitoring these objects.

Videos - first three here, released as per FoIA

https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/documents

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652978#Comment_117652978

And also, if this phenomenon wasn't taken seriously this wouldn't have happened.

Announcing a New Plan for Solving the Mystery of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena - Scientific American

sergioaguero

UFO's have been taken very seriously since the 1940's, the biggest secret in the history of mankind

Dohnjoe

And now that we all carry HD cameras in our pockets and have far better instruments on planes, drones, etc then hopefully we can get something concrete. It's incredible how consistently blurry and "just" out of focus the visual data we have so far is.

astrofool

This is one of those areas that would be great if there was truth in it, i.e. an alien species making contact with Earth. Unfortunately, however, even the best evidence is quite poor and can be explained by things such as the parallax effect and weather phenomenon, even if the videos were taking at face value, it only brings in more questions and lack of evidence.

I've no doubt that there is military programs doing all types of experiments with flying vehicles, I don't believe that they are that good at hiding them that they would have only ever been caught by other military via bad footage.

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117673267#Comment_117673267

This is the Niels Degrasse argument. Which is pure mockery...this is basically anti-science.

Science = inquisitiveness, testing the hypothesis, finding explanation of phenomena

Outright dismissal without any tests or measurements made is bigotry/dogmatism.

On phones - Try to take a footage of a flying object at a distance in reasonable zoom on your phone. Whilst HD, the lens in a phone sucks and you can't really take a good footage with it.

The military videos that were declassified are not HD optical footage but infrared (FLIR).