Considering giving up main job for side hustle.

Health11 · 25-04-2021 7:17pm

floorpie wrote: »

In mainstream modelling you're hired by someone in order to, e.g., help sell their products to many many people. As such they have high requirements for models' attractiveness, skill and so on.

Lap dancing/sex work you're paid by one person for sexual activity. There is no barrier to entry in terms of attractiveness, skill etc because demand is far higher than supply, because few people are willing to be sex workers.

I don't believe it's a hoax...? I'm just interested in making money online, hence why I analysed the industry. I hope that you can make the most money possible too, and my advice again in this respect is to keep spending 1 hour a day doing OF, and keep your job.

You haven't a clue. 'Payed by one person' - you do realise strippers will be employed by clubs? Do you think the clubs want to hire the best possible staff in order to compete against other clubs? God this is mind numbing.

floorpie · 25-04-2021 7:23pm

Health11 wrote: »

You haven't a clue. 'Payed by one person' - you do realise strippers will be employed by clubs? Do you think the clubs want to hire the best possible staff in order to compete against other clubs? God this is mind numbing.

Most money is earned through tips, what's your point? That only a select few amazing people can earn money in the sex industry at large? This simply isn't true. I already agreed that few can earn 10k on OF. But yes this is irrelevant, I've given my advice umpteen times now to you, so I'm going to talk to other posters again. Stop counting my posts please.

Health11 · 25-04-2021 7:30pm

floorpie wrote: »

Most money is earned through tips, what's your point? That only a select few amazing people can succeed in the sex industry at large? This simply isn't true. And yes this is irrelevant, I've given my advice umpteen times now to you, so I'm going to talk to other posters again. Stop counting my posts please.

Your only way to argue is to use hyperbole and out words in my mouth. Just because I said there are barriers of entry doesnt mean I am saying only a select few amazing people can work as strippers. If you can't understand that, then I don't know what to say.

floorpie · 25-04-2021 7:34pm

Health11 wrote: »

Your only way to argue is to use hyperbole and out words in my mouth. Just because I said there are barriers of entry doesnt mean I am saying only a select few amazing people can work as strippers. If you can't understand that, then I don't know what to say.

Then I don't understand your point.

You said few people can earn 3k on OF. I agree.

You said few people can earn 3k in the sex industry legally (outside of OF presumably). I disagree. The end.

AndrewJRenko · 25-04-2021 7:58pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

Their policy on staff's use of social media.

The only policy quoted here says "Downloading/disseminating pornographic material from the internet"

This is clearly in the context of using work computers and networks.

If they're going to fire for work done on her own time and her own tech resources, then they're going to have to fire every HSE staffer who has ever downloaded a bit of porn at home as well.

Wallet Inspector · 25-04-2021 8:20pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

If they're going to fire for work done on her own time and her own tech resources, then they're going to have to fire every HSE staffer who has ever downloaded a bit of porn at home as well.

I didn't say anything about downloading "a bit of" porn at home.

Use of social media - different thing (why should it have been mentioned here?) Standard for a company to have a policy regarding how its staff uses social media.

You really are hell bent on wanting that not to be the case.

floorpie · 25-04-2021 8:26pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

I didn't say anything about downloading "a bit of" porn at home.

Use of social media - different thing (why should it have been mentioned here?) Standard for a company to have a policy regarding how its staff uses social media.

You really are hell bent on wanting that not to be the case.

Two policies were mentioned, one for HSE staff that said you can't download/disseminate porn, and the code of conduct for the Nurse's Board that says nurses must be professional on social media.

AndrewJRenko · 25-04-2021 9:17pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

I didn't say anything about downloading "a bit of" porn at home.

Use of social media - different thing (why should it have been mentioned here?) Standard for a company to have a policy regarding how its staff uses social media.

You really are hell bent on wanting that not to be the case.

Have you found any such HSE policy?

She may not be a direct HSE employee. Lots of nurses are employed by their own hospital, or it could be a private hospital or a nursing home or disability care provider.

gary550 · 25-04-2021 9:51pm

OP curious about your tax setup?

Are you vat registered and what way do you currently run your business? i.e are you self employed or registered as a limited company and running through that?

knowing a little about how you run your business might give someone a better idea on advising you on your original question.

gary550 · 25-04-2021 10:14pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

No it doesn’t. They said they’re tax compliant that’s all that revenue requires of them and to ask otherwise is pure deflection from the original ask.

Yes it absolutely does

To give an example as a self employed person: OP suggests they currently take 12k a month gross, let's say the applicable vat rate is the reduced 13.5% so once that's deducted from the gross pay you're left with something like 120k in taxable income from OF, add her current salary from nursing into that your are looking at probably like sub 7k per month in income and probably a 70k per year income tax bill

If registered as a limited company the same applies above as regards vat but the op has a lot more options as regards future income planning i.e she doesn't have to take all that as yearly income and can spread it out over a few years by taking a lesser monthly salary from her company in place (or in supplement) of her current nursing salary making her current gravy train last a lot longer.

Health11 · 25-04-2021 10:31pm

gary550 wrote: »

Yes it absolutely does

To give an example as a self employed person: OP suggests they currently take 12k a month gross, let's say the applicable vat rate is the reduced 13.5% so once that's deducted from the gross pay you're left with something like 120k in taxable income from OF, add her current salary from nursing into that your are looking at probably like sub 7k per month in income and probably a 70k per year income tax bill

If registered as a limited company the same applies above as regards vat but the op has a lot more options as regards future income planning i.e she doesn't have to take all that as yearly income and can spread it out over a few years by taking a lesser monthly salary from her company in place (or in supplement) of her current nursing salary making her current gravy train last a lot longer.

Interesting, you know your stuff! Can I PM you with some questions?

Sleeper12 · 25-04-2021 11:09pm

Health11 wrote:

Interesting, you know your stuff! Can I PM you with some questions?

Jasus they'll be after you with pitch forks now saying that you are trying to intice this poster to OF.

26-04-2021 1:52am

The Op just needs to complain about road tax to get more hits.

Wallet Inspector · 26-04-2021 7:41am

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Have you found any such HSE policy?

She may not be a direct HSE employee. Lots of nurses are employed by their own hospital, or it could be a private hospital or a nursing home or disability care provider.

She said she is employed by the HSE and has a pension.

YellowLead · 26-04-2021 9:37am

Anybody considering onlyfans as a means of income needs to really give it careful consideration beyond the immediate future.
I doubt the HSE do it, and in this example OP is already employed so irrelevant to current position, but lots of employers do background checks.
I had one done before I started in my current role - in addition to employment history criminal background etc I also had to consent to public domain information.
An employer could say that the sale of sexually explicit photos etc contradicts with their ethos or values and decide not to go ahead with the contract of employment.
Somebody in OPs situation may want to move to private nursing in future and end up somewhere where a background check happens. It would be very easy for that future employer to say that OF conflicts with their organisational values.

GypsyByName · 26-04-2021 11:07am

Anyone get an email from OP yet?

gary550 · 26-04-2021 11:21am

Health11 wrote: »

Interesting, you know your stuff! Can I PM you with some questions?

I'm not an accountant or tax advisor so I can't give you professional advice or anything like that. Any knowledge I have comes from being involved in business.

On your original question about whether to step away from nursing and pursue OF full time I'd probably be suggesting it is entirely possible to do if you go into it with your eyes wide open and with a reasonable plan for continued growth.

Without beating around the bush this will probably all run out someday but that doesn't mean you can't make the most of it now.

AndrewJRenko · 26-04-2021 12:10pm

Wallet Inspector wrote: »

She said she is employed by the HSE and has a pension.

So the HSE policy is fairly vague

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/communications/digital/social-media/social-media-and-digital-policy/social-media-staff-use-guidelines.pdf

It has some "should" guidance, not "must", including

Act professionally at all times.
 Be quick to correct your own mistakes and admit when you are wrong.
 Do not use ethnic or religious slurs, insults or obscenities.
 Do not engage in conduct that would be viewed as unacceptable online.

Viewed by who, would be an obvious question - very subjective.

It notes that "Personal profiles are in fact, personal".

Hard to see that the employer would be on solid ground in firing someone for producing porn.

Worst case scenario would probably be the employer telling them to stop.

YellowLead · 26-04-2021 12:16pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So the HSE policy is fairly vague

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/communications/digital/social-media/social-media-and-digital-policy/social-media-staff-use-guidelines.pdf

It has some "should" guidance, not "must", including

Act professionally at all times.
 Be quick to correct your own mistakes and admit when you are wrong.
 Do not use ethnic or religious slurs, insults or obscenities.
 Do not engage in conduct that would be viewed as unacceptable online.

Viewed by who, would be an obvious question - very subjective.

It notes that "Personal profiles are in fact, personal".

Hard to see that the employer would be on solid ground in firing someone for producing porn.

Worst case scenario would probably be the employer telling them to stop.

Id be more worried about a future employer not hiring them in the first place after conducting a background check which includes social media.
They could easily say selling porn doesn’t fit with their ethos/value etc. Or just pretend another candidate was a better fit and not even excuse it.

Health11 · 26-04-2021 1:02pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Jasus they'll be after you with pitch forks now saying that you are trying to intice this poster to OF.

Yeah exactly! ðŸ˜‚

cloudatlas · 26-04-2021 1:10pm

Seize the day. Only Fans is booming during lockdown. I would make hay while the sun shines.

gary550 · 26-04-2021 2:50pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Jasus they'll be after you with pitch forks now saying that you are trying to intice this poster to OF.

I think some of the other posters here are a little green eyed that someone could be making a few pound in a fairly unconventional manner

If I was biologically gifted & a female I'd probably be trying to make a few pound too on OF but I'm not so I have to go down the conventional route

Health11 · 26-04-2021 4:32pm

gary550 wrote: »

I think some of the other posters here are a little green eyed that someone could be making a few pound in a fairly unconventional manner

If I was biologically gifted & a female I'd probably be trying to make a few pound too on OF but I'm not so I have to go down the conventional route

No no, I have been informed no one could possibly be jealous of someone in the sex industry by YellowLead .

YellowLead · 26-04-2021 4:36pm

Health11 wrote: »

No no, I have been informed no one could possibly be jealous of someone in the sex industry by YellowLead .

You are mixing up posters

show me the post where i said this? I said I am not jealous. I said more power to you.

I think a different poster might have said that nobody would be? I’m not sure or arsed to go back looking though.

Health11 · 26-04-2021 4:51pm

YellowLead wrote: »

You are mixing up posters show me the post where i said this? I said I am not jealous. I said more power to you.

I think a different poster might have said that nobody would be? I’m not sure or arsed to go back looking though.

My apologies, you're correct. It was your partner in crime, Floorpie.

floorpie · 26-04-2021 6:50pm

Health11 wrote: »

My apologies, you're correct. It was your partner in crime, Floorpie.

Keep doin the bleedin thing I keep telling you. Congrats on the extra income, good work getting so high in the rankings on OF, well done for sticking to your guns, etc.

Wallet Inspector · 26-04-2021 8:02pm

gary550 wrote: »

I think some of the other posters here are a little green eyed that someone could be making a few pound in a fairly unconventional manner

Not believing that a nurse during a pandemic is making thousands a month on the side... is not the same as jealousy.

Disbelieving, jealousy - two different things.

Some people prefer to keep their bits private for themselves and partners. Others are happy to get paid to get their bits out - and if they want to do so, good luck to them. Nothing wrong at all with making money off having a good body - it makes sense if you're not shy and don't mind the possibility of people whom you know having a look. Have a plan B for when older though, and bear in mind if you have another job that's more traditional/conservative, that it may cause a conflict in the eyes of that employer.

Jeez, nothing above is judgemental or jealous or moralising. It's just reality. Some people seem upset at responses that are simply not "yeah go for it - do whatever you want to do, nothing that's harming nobody else has consequences." It would be great if that's how things were but things unfortunately don't always work that way.

floorpie · 19-08-2021 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116954741#Comment_116954741

Who could have seen this coming. Shame on everybody in the thread advising someone to quit a permanent job for this

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