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Considering giving up main job for side hustle.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    YellowLead wrote: »
    At least this should stop the silly few people who were saying it could all be very ‘innocent’ photos etc and we were silly for assuming it was remotely connected to anything sexual :)
    Doubt it. Spectacular levels of denial so far. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,928 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dishonesty and misrepresentation again I see. Sleeper in particular is amazing for it. Unashamedly so.


    If you actually read the thread then you will see that I said over & over that I don't know if op is telling the truth or not. I am very certain that several posters aren't truthful about PMs and links as they don't seem to have been reported to any mods if they exist.

    Others have used the term porn. Some claim op "implied" she provides explicit material. They are happy to claim that op is sending out links and PMs with absolutely no proof.

    I haven't made anything up. I haven't tried to distort comments by op & I haven't repeated false claims by other posters. How I have been dishonest is beyond me.

    Here is my stance on it: I have a daughter around the same age as op. I'd rather she never worked as a model of any kind but I'm very glad that she can if she ever needs to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    You say the industry is 'open to all' but you can say the same about starting your own business. Theres a difference between a successful business and one that makes no money. Plenty of men/other girls have told me they would love to make money off OF but don't think anyone would pay for their content. Indeed you and your mates have quoted statistics saying that 90% of OF users don't make money.

    Do you think you could make any money off OF if you tried 100%? ( and yes I know its beneath your level of moral superiority, before you make that point)

    Your true attitude to women and sex work comes out every few posts.

    Granted there's a big difference in the talent/effort required to earn 1000e a month and 10k a month, but sex work isn't like other industries so yeah, anybody could make money in sex work. 10k? Probably not. 3k? Yeah sure. 3k on OF, probably not.

    I disagree with it on moral grounds (which I'm discussing with other posters) but any advice I've given directly to you is monetary only, i.e. how to make the most money over your lifetime. Earning 300k+high risk+high investment isn't as impressive or compelling to me as 120k+low risk+low investment, and all my posts encourage you to continue with the latter, no attitude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    floorpie wrote: »
    Granted there's a big difference in the talent/effort required to earn 1000e a month and 10k a month, but sex work isn't like other industries so yeah, anybody could make money in sex work. 10k? Probably not. 3k? Yeah sure. 3k on OF, probably not.

    I disagree with it on moral grounds (which I'm discussing with other posters) but any advice I've given directly to you is monetary only, i.e. how to make the most money over your lifetime. Earning 300k+high risk+high investment isn't as impressive or compelling to me as 120k+low risk+low investment, and all my posts encourage you to continue with the latter, no attitude.

    You're deluded if you think everyone can just earn 3k a month on OF.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doubt it. Spectacular levels of denial so far. :D

    Who didn’t know it was sex work?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    You're deluded if you think everyone can just earn 3k a month on OF.

    I said "probably not" to 3k OF, I said 3k in sex work. I understand the economics of OF in Ireland.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don’t know what the exact financial model on OF. I have worked on subscription software before. If you can charge per month a small monthly subscription and a relatively small number of users can make money.

    €12k a month could be 2,000 people paying €6. Or 4,000 people paying €3. I’m not sure why any of this seems impossible.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    floorpie wrote: »
    I said "probably not" to 3k OF, I said 3k in sex work. I understand the economics of OF in Ireland.

    Jesus there’s a lot of OF experts on this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    floorpie wrote: »
    I said "probably not" to 3k OF, I said 3k in sex work. I understand the economics of OF in Ireland.

    You are deluded if you think just anyone can make 3k a month legally in any industry.

    If you are talking about breaking the law, that's totally irrelevant. You could just as easily say I could rob people to the tune of 3k a month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    Jesus there’s a lot of OF experts on this thread.

    So so strange. Why are they so bothered?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Health11 wrote: »
    You are deluded if you think just anyone can make 3k a month legally in any industry.

    LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,715 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I don’t know what the exact financial model on OF. I have worked on subscription software before. If you can charge per month a small monthly subscription and a relatively small number of users can make money.

    €12k a month could be 2,000 people paying €6. Or 4,000 people paying €3. I’m not sure why any of this seems impossible.

    Because they are not paying to see nothing - why would they, they’d move their subscription elsewhere. If OP is spending only one hour per day how does she plan and shoot content, and respond to all the messages, never mind the social media promotion to drum up new subscribers.
    Now to be fair she could be doing something really filthy which I won’t name here, that other girls aren’t prepared to do so easily. But even that would get old after a while without the time being put into fresh content.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    LOL

    Sorry my point was was meant to be legally within the sex industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    You are deluded if you think just anyone can make 3k a month legally in any industry.

    Obviously people's personal motivation is important, but if we're talking about highly motivated people then I'm confused as to what you're talking about. Anyone can earn an extra 3k a month legally if they're motivated.
    If you are talking about breaking the law, that's totally irrelevant. You could just as easily say I could rob people to the tune of 3k a month.
    You were the one using the term "sex work" so I presumed we were talking about sex work at large, and not just OF. It isn't illegal to be a stripper or even an escort in Ireland.
    fvp4 wrote: »
    Jesus there’s a lot of OF experts on this thread.

    I'm quite happy with the quick analysis I did for this post: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116964895&postcount=152

    Pearson correlation > 0.8 for the model of #likes -> #subs. So I believe if people are earning much more money than shown here then it's from requests or other extras.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Health11 wrote: »
    You are deluded if you think just anyone can make 3k a month legally in any industry.

    If you are talking about breaking the law, that's totally irrelevant. You could just as easily say I could rob people to the tune of 3k a month.

    3k isn’t even a high monthly salary, what are you on about? Of course you can earn this easily.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,212 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Jequ0n wrote: »
    3k isn’t even a high monthly salary, what are you on about? Of course you can earn this easily.

    Note that you are responding to the OP who claimed she was making 12k a month for an hours work a day. Think about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    Jequ0n wrote: »
    3k isn’t even a high monthly salary, what are you on about? Of course you can earn this easily.

    See my correction above. I meant 3k legally within the sex industry.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    YellowLead wrote: »
    Because they are not paying to see nothing - why would they, they’d move their subscription elsewhere. If OP is spending only one hour per day how does she plan and shoot content, and respond to all the messages, never mind the social media promotion to drum up new subscribers.
    Now to be fair she could be doing something really filthy which I won’t name here, that other girls aren’t prepared to do so easily. But even that would get old after a while without the time being put into fresh content.

    Maybe the one hour content is good enough? Are they really expected to be online 24/h a day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    fvp4 wrote: »
    Who didn’t know it was sex work?
    Sleeper kept saying there's nothing to indicate it's unclothed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    floorpie wrote: »
    Obviously people's personal motivation is important, but if we're talking about highly motivated people then I'm confused as to what you're talking about. Anyone can earn an extra 3k a month legally if they're motivated.


    You were the one using the term "sex work" so I presumed we were talking about sex work at large, and not just OF. It isn't illegal to be a stripper or even an escort in Ireland.



    I'm quite happy with the quick analysis I did for this post: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116964895&postcount=152

    Pearson correlation > 0.8 for the model of #likes -> #subs. So I believe if people are earning much more money than shown here then it's from requests or other extras.
    See my correction, I mean legally within the sex industry.

    Okay take your example of stripping. Are you saying anyone can do it? In that case anyone can make 3k a month modelling?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    See my correction above. I meant 3k legally within the sex industry.

    Lap dancers in Ireland earn 100-1000 a night. If you were Irish you'd make bank.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Health11 wrote: »
    You're deluded if you think everyone can just earn 3k a month on OF.

    I would be paid 3k if I promised not to post any more photos


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,928 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    No Sleeper stated that those of us who are sceptical are making the wild claims... which are not wild.


    That's not true at all. I never said that. I said that op never said exactly how far she goes. I started that I had no idea if she was fully dressed, undies or nude. She never actually said yet "porn" was being thrown about. I also said that it was wrong to repeat unproven and unlikely claims that op was sending pms to people & sending links.

    I have said several times that I don't know if it's a genuine thread or not. I just don't get involved in posting stuff I don't know to be fact


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    fvp4 wrote: »
    Maybe the one hour content is good enough? Are they really expected to be online 24/h a day?
    Who said anything about 24 hours a day? Four to five hours online a month making 12 grand? You can see why there are sceptics surely.

    The stuff about disapproval is just being made up, but it's a handy generic fallback.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    See my correction above. I meant 3k legally within the sex industry.

    Lap dancers in Ireland earn 100-1000 a night. If you were Irish you'd make bank.
    Health11 wrote: »
    Okay take your example of stripping. Are you saying anyone can do it? In that case anyone can make 3k a month modelling?

    No not modelling. As I said, demand in the sex industry imo is different from any other industry.

    None of what I'm saying is to diminish the effort it takes to do what you do. I don't think just anybody can earn as much on OF, and no doubt you deserve it whether by talent or effort. This all stemmed from you saying everybody is jealous. I maintain that no well-adjusted person is jealous of the earnings of a porn star, or of a sex worker's earnings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    floorpie wrote: »
    Lap dancers in Ireland earn 100-1000 a night. If you were Irish you'd make bank.

    Where are you getting your figures from?

    In addition, are you suggesting theres no barrier to entry? You've just listed a massive range of potential earnings. How come some people earn more?

    Where does mainstream modelling and lap dancing differentiate in terms of barriers to entry?


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Health11


    floorpie wrote: »
    Lap dancers in Ireland earn 100-1000 a night. If you were Irish you'd make bank.



    No not modelling. As I said, demand in the sex industry imo is different from any other industry.

    None of what I'm saying is to diminish the effort it takes to do what you do. I don't think just anybody can earn as much on OF, and no doubt you deserve it whether by talent or effort. This all stemmed from you saying everybody is jealous. I maintain that no well-adjusted person is jealous of the earnings of a porn star, or of a sex worker's earnings.

    I didnt say everybody is jealous? Your idea of a 'well adjusted person' may differ totally from everyone elses.

    Would your idea of a well adjusted person be replying incessantly to an internet thread that they believe is a hoax?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,928 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Sleeper kept saying there's nothing to indicate it's unclothed.

    What I said, several times, is I don't know if op is fully clothed, in lingerie (undies) or nude. I never once said it was or wasn't sexual in nature.

    You have a very dishonest way of interpreting people's comments. It would be more helpful if you posted my actual comments instead of your la, la land interpretation of what I have said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    OP I don’t know anything about OF really but what I will say is, make hay whilst the sun shines. But, I would also advise you won’t be young and beautiful forever, and as you get older and maybe want to settle down, partners may not be happy with you being on OF. It’s a money earner that may not always suit your life is all I’m saying, so I’d caution against throwing away the nursing altogether. See what works for you, could you even do job sharing to keep nursing but at a lesser level so that you can spend more time on the OF venture. Best of luck with it all, 3k a month as a sideline is very nice indeed, enjoy it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Health11 wrote: »
    Where are you getting your figures from?

    In addition, are you suggesting theres no barrier to entry? You've just listed a massive range of potential earnings. How come some people earn more?

    Where does mainstream modelling and lap dancing differentiate in terms of barriers to entry?

    In mainstream modelling you're hired by someone in order to, e.g., help sell their products to many many people. As such they have high requirements for models' attractiveness, skill and so on. Many people want to be models and because of this pay is poor.

    Lap dancing/sex work you're paid by one person for sexual activity. There is no barrier to entry in terms of attractiveness, skill etc because demand is far higher than supply, because few people are willing to be sex workers. Pay is therefore high.
    Health11 wrote: »
    Would your idea of a well adjusted person be replying incessantly to an internet thread that they believe is a hoax?

    I don't believe it's a hoax...? I'm just interested in making money online, hence why I analysed the industry. I hope that you can make the most money possible too, and my advice again in this respect is to keep spending 1 hour a day doing OF, and keep your job.


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