Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

vienne86

Kingston Mills on Claire Byrne saying 60-69 year olds might be wondering how come under 60s get mrna, over 69s get mrna, why the hell are 60-69s only being given AZ.....:eek:

Marty Bird

Beasty what did you do to the thread ? I was on one are vaccines the way out and it’s gone now

Timberrrrrrrr

Marty Bird wrote: »

Beasty what did you do to the thread ? I was on one are vaccines the way out and it’s gone now

Vaccine threads get merged into this one big megathread, it saves having 20 different threads about the same subject.

Marty Bird

Marty Bird wrote: »

Beasty what did you do to the thread ? I was on one are vaccines the way out and it’s gone now

Phew....thought it was just my phone gone a bit rogue

Micky 32

Marty Bird wrote: »

Beasty what did you do to the thread ? I was on one are vaccines the way out and it’s gone now

Yes and all the shyte has come over to this thread.

Miike

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Aren't you thread banned?

Did you just get put out to pasture? :pac:

ACitizenErased

Flying Fox wrote: »

We're getting 480k doses of AZ in April and May, so all over 60s could receive a first dose in that time. It's really not so bad. Maybe the 50-59 groups could be opened up before the 60-69s finish, so we can keep the supply of Pfizer and Moderna moving.

You're suggesting fully vaccinating 50 year olds before 60 year olds. Because that makes sense.

Marty Bird

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Vaccine threads get merged into this one big megathread, it saves having 20 different threads about the same subject.

Is this testing, treatments and vaccines one ?

Miike

Marty Bird wrote: »

Is this testing, treatments and vaccines one ?

It was about vaccines but now its about some lads pint, boards being Irish (who knew), Portugal not having mandatory mask rules (someone forgot to tell Portugal) and any other old shíte.

Van.Bosch

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You're suggesting fully vaccinating 50 year olds before 60 year olds. Because that makes sense.

It does if we have Pfizer and they can only go to under 60s. Otherwise we will have the 60 plus done but no one to give AZ to.

It’s tough one

ACitizenErased

Van.Bosch wrote: »

It does if we have Pfizer and they can only go to under 60s. Otherwise we will have the 60 plus done but no one to give AZ to.

It’s tough one

You don't go from 60s to 50s. You go from 60s to the highly vulnerable 18+, as per the rollout.

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You're suggesting fully vaccinating 50 year olds before 60 year olds. Because that makes sense.

Oh for God's sake.

60+ takes priority and starts earlier, obviously. We have significant AZ supply to cover them. I'm simply thinking about possible options the HSE could consider to streamline the rollout in light of tonight's developments.

I have no idea what they'll do, it's their call and they have access to information that a bunch of randomers on the internet don't.

Van.Bosch

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You don't go from 60s to 50s. You go from 60s to the highly vulnerable 18+, as per the rollout.

True but they can’t get AZ either so you give the AZ to 60-69 and then do the next cohort but I don’t think that is very big right?

astrofool

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You don't go from 60s to 50s. You go from 60s to the highly vulnerable 18+, as per the rollout.

How many are in the vulnerable groups before we hit the 50+? (I'm not in the 50+ group myself, but it's a good indication we're getting to mass, all adult, rollout)

Goldengirl

Multipass wrote: »

I agree that they basically have no risk from covid, this whole crisis is bollocks. But if vaccines are the only way we can get freedom, give me freedom asap, not hold firm for 10 more weeks while we wait for Pfizer.

Get dose of AZ , wait 12 to16 weeks for 2nd dose ,
Or
Wait 10weeks (where did you get this from?) for mRNA vaccine and 2nd dose 4weeks later ,
= difference of 2weeks before fully vaccinated going byyour own metric .

It's not a big issue really, for safety .

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You don't go from 60s to 50s. You go from 60s to the highly vulnerable 18+, as per the rollout.

The highly vulnerable 18+ will likely be getting their Pfizer vaccines alongside the 60s then. The rollout has to be adapted somewhat after tonight. It doesn't mean the whole thing is a disaster.

Rebelbrowser

Flying Fox wrote: »

The highly vulnerable 18+ will likely be getting their Pfizer vaccines alongside the 60s then. The rollout has to be adapted somewhat after tonight. It doesn't mean the whole thing is a disaster.

60 to 69 cohort have most grounds for grievance I think. Ultimately, for a number of reasons, I think most of us would prefer the Pfizer vaccine

Strazdas

Flying Fox wrote: »

The highly vulnerable 18+ will likely be getting their Pfizer vaccines alongside the 60s then. The rollout has to be adapted somewhat after tonight. It doesn't mean the whole thing is a disaster.

Many European countries have restricted AZ by age, so are seeing the exact same scenario as is playing out here.

Rebelbrowser

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

60 to 69 cohort have most grounds for grievance I think. Ultimately, for a number of reasons, I think most of us would prefer the Pfizer vaccine

Completely get that, and I think choosing 60 as the cut off was very cautious. However the clotting risk from AZ is miniscule after 60 (it's five times higher at 30) and the side effects in general seem to be less severe than in younger people.

NPHET: "Vaccines are our way out of this"

Vaccines: *reduce deaths and hospitalisations hugely*

NPHET: "NO, NOT THAT VACCINE!"

Goldengirl

Flying Fox wrote: »

The highly vulnerable 18+ will likely be getting their Pfizer vaccines alongside the 60s then. The rollout has to be adapted somewhat after tonight. It doesn't mean the whole thing is a disaster.

That is what has been said will happen only last week and makes more sense now that the vaccines will be different.
Group 7 are meant to be starting vaccination May 3 and running concurrently with 60 to 65 year olds with no underlying conditions .

bodhrandude

A bit of humour after this sh1t show today.

funnydoggy

bodhrandude wrote: »

A bit of humour after this sh1t show today.

Where's Irish Stones when you need him :pac:

Goldengirl

Translate please!

bodhrandude

rough translation: Jamaican vaccine produced by flyta zenica is not as effective as the others, but after a couple of doses you won't give a damn about coronavirus.

Strumms

Parachutes wrote: »

That’s the argument now. We have to continue lockdown because we don’t have complete freedom to murder people or drive through a red light :rolleyes:

No that isn’t, but as your reply shows you want to disingenuously misrepresent the views of others to further your own argument... bit see through...

lucernarian

This new thread has gone to the dogs tbh. I know it's been a rough day of news but seeing threadbanned users posting away, people based in the UK gloating about having their pint today and something about moving to Portugal, plus the hysteria that "lockdowns and masks will never go away"... How is this being allowed?

Beasty

Beasty wrote: »

Threads merged

Please note two threads were merged - threadbans listed in the OP have not been breached if made in the newer thread before the merge

Micky 32

lucernarian wrote: »

This new thread has gone to the dogs tbh. I know it's been a rough day of news but seeing threadbanned users posting away, people based in the UK gloating about having their pint today and something about moving to Portugal, plus the hysteria that "lockdowns and masks will never go away"... How is this being allowed?

You forgot the BS that “vaccines won’t end this” :pac:

lucernarian

Beasty wrote: »

Please note two threads were merged - threadbans listed in the OP have not been breached if made in the newer thread before the merge

Want to humbly say, without questioning any mod decision, that readers cannot know a thread was merged until well into reading through the enlarged, merged thread. Were one thread to be closed, and the other continued, I guess that wouldn't be an issue. Also, the list in the OP appears at a glance to be shorter than the old vaccines and testing megathread