Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Another mass shooting in the USA - 10 killed
Options
Comments
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
whisky_galore wrote: »Routine by now, they'll never wean themselves off gun fetishism.
Same as the Irish with drink.
0 -
-
-
-
-
-
-
Banana Republic 1 wrote: »If you don't understand the similarities between the drink culture here and the American gun fascination then you'll never understand the problems faced. Im not against drinking or guns but when there an intrinsic part of a society then its difficult to untangle the knots.
Your analogy is poor.
Drink is an intrinsic part of Irish culture, yes.
Also going by the number of Marches for Mental Health and campaigns, us Irish do crazy well too.
How many mass casualty events have either lead to in the past week?
Drinking oneself to death, or losing a battle to mental health here doesn't equate to walking into a shop or a school and opening fire.
It's a false and frankly nonsense equivalence.
There's been 10mass shooting events in the US in the last 7 days.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
That bears zero, absolutely zero equivalence, cultural, casualty or otherwise to Irish drinking culture.
Or how about mass casualty events in those countries that drink even more than we do?
0 -
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
A mass shooting in an "open carry" state.
It's almost as if having easy access to guns, allowing people to carry them openly for their "protection" out and about has demonstrably failed.
There was a church shooting in Texas foiled by a frankly incredible shot from a 70+ yr old man a couple of years ago.
A headshot from 20mtrs plus with a pistol.
Pro 2a folk latched onto this as an example of why guns keep people safe.
Ignoring the convergence of years of skill and training, luck and the simple fact that if guns were harder to lay hands on?
The luck here would never have been needed.
This Colorado shooting is unfortunately far more illustrative of what easy gun ownership means.
Lots of armed people in and around that shop even before the police arrived, yet 10 dead and shooter arrested.
No John McClane moment, no yippee ki yay just more death sown by easy access to firearms.
Still, tbh I don't really care.
US gun politics are a dumpster fire of individual rights versus big government and are indicative of a huge societal failing.
Those who scream from my cold dead fingers, and to protect from tyrants are funnily enough the same militia loons who tried to overturn free and fair elections.
It really is like having a window on the decline and fall of an Empire.
This tweet is just 1 week old.
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1371885468950917124
And this article is from last April as America started to experience lockdown and the early implications of covid starting to dramatically impact peoples lives.Americans grappling with the rapidly-spreading coronavirus purchased more guns last month than at any other point since the FBI began collecting data over 20 years ago. Why?
With the death toll climbing every day and most of the country under some form of lockdown, many Americans seem to be turning to guns as part of their response.
And this is how one member of the House of Representatives responded to the tragedy yesterday.Rep. Lauren Boebert’s (R-Colo.) campaign sent out a fundraising email to her supporters encouraging them to say “Hell No” to any gun control measures in Washington on Monday night just hours after a mass shooting in her state left ten people including a police officer dead.
Of course, given that this is her Zoom background, that is hardly surprising but you have to wonder what is going on in peoples heads.
And her colleague from another state in which there was a mass shooting is also under no illusion as to where they stand.
https://twitter.com/monaeltahawy/status/1374215752383877124
The ironic (batsh*t crazy) thing in the middle of this is that so many gun advocates, such as the two above, scream about the sanctity of the 2nd Amendment to allow people to have guns to allow them to challenge a tyrannical government, and the only time we have seen anything come even close to this in definitely most of our lifetimes, if not in history itself, was on the Jan 6th when militia members, spurred on by many, including these 2 above and the sitting President, sought to carry out an insurrection to prevent the democratic process being carried out.
Conservatives worship at the alter of the founding fathers who lived at a time when the population of the US was 130 times smaller than it is now, when combustible engines and the harnessing of electrical power was not even a thing and when these same fathers still didn't think women or black people should be able to vote not to mind become elected representatives. And yet given all that has changed since then, they refuse to countenance taking steps to help ensure that people are not even kept safe, but have an expectation of being safe when going about their daily business.
When kids as young as 8 and 9 and people on their first day in service industry jobs are being given training on how to deal with active shooters in the same way that people in other countries get manual handling training or are shown where to go to in the event of a fire, there is something very messed up. And if left to Republicans, they will stay this way.0
Advertisement