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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    I really want to see this now. What is it?

    From wiki: Tough Guys Don't Dance is a 1987 crime mystery comedy-drama film written and directed by Norman Mailer based on his novel of the same name. It is a murder mystery/film noir piece that was scorned by audiences and critics alike. It was screened out of competition at the 1987 Cannes Film Festival.[4]

    A writer wakes up with a terrible hangover, a tender new tattoo on his arm, a severed female head in his drug stash, and no recollection of the events of the night before.

    I haven't seen it yet but it sounds extremely awful.


  • Posts: 1,344 [Deleted User]


    American made was a great movie , he should do more like that



    He NAILED IT as Jerry Maguire


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Edge of Tomorrow was quite good as well I thought.

    Tom wouldn’t be an Oscar winner in my eyes, but he’s a reliable enough actor and puts in the graft on his movies.
    Definitely does not belong on this list (in my opinion).

    Same with Colin Farrel, solid enough, and certainly wouldn’t turn me off a movie...
    I like that now he keeps his Irish accent in a lot of his movies lately...
    Tom Cruise puts me off big budget movies.

    He's a competent action hero, but they are two a dozen because every TV action series has at least one. He's way overpriced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭BrenMar


    Emma Watson, good thing she's minted because the roles will be drying up and she could never carry a movie on her own.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Jean Claude Van Damme. At least he could kick I suppose
    Try JCVD sometime starring Jean-Claude Van Damme as Jean-Claude Van Damme. A tired, washed-out failure, struggling for work


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    He NAILED IT as Jerry Maguire
    He had a good turn in Magnolia too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Tarah04


    I've only seen Shelley Duvall in The Shining but I'd be curious to see other performances from her as a comparison to The Shining.

    I think the whole point is that her character is very meek which may come across as poor acting. Given how obsessive Kubrick was with detail, I doubt he would have been happy with Duvall unless she was giving the exact type of performance he wanted.

    And of course she was subjected to a lot of emotional manipulation by Kubrick behind the scenes which is bound to affect the performance.

    My actual childhood friend irl, was brought up in a very abusive household and when I think back now she even looks a bit like Shelly Duvall and her mannerisms are very similar to how my friend was.

    I think Shelly was cast perfectly and probably relate to her on a subconscious level because of my friend amongst other things. Others might not appreciate that and think her acting was bad because they don't have the same insight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,024 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Say what you like about Tom Cruise, he knows how to do a good action movie.

    I think he is an adrenaline junkie loves stunts and action which he does well with but when he changes genre he surprises you as he can act, I really enjoyed him in Magnolia and Tropic Thunder


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    snoopy84 wrote: »
    Oh my god he's AWFUL
    How about Alden Ehrenreich as young Solo ?

    Compare to Ansel Elgort in Baby Driver to see what might have been.
    Sony Movies Fri 19.03.2021 21:00 - 23:15 (135 min.)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    American made was a great movie , he should do more like that

    Loved American made and he made tropic thunder even better as Grossman!

    His movies are always entertaining.. He gets a lot of stick unfairly imo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    aaronc182 wrote: »
    Loved American made and he made tropic thunder even better as Grossman!

    His movies are always entertaining.. He gets a lot of stick unfairly imo


    I wouldn't agree I think he deserves the stick usually. He was very good in Collateral 2004 suited him.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tom Cruise puts me off big budget movies.

    He's a competent action hero, but they are two a dozen because every TV action series has at least one. He's way overpriced.

    You’ve missed out on some good movies then. He’s more of a star than a great actor but that’s ok. And he can act when we wants to.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    saabsaab wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree I think he deserves the stick usually. He was very good in Collateral 2004 suited him.

    For what though.. his acting? Wouldn't say he's an Oscar winning actor and hes done some ****e movies but what actor hasn't... But he's not a bad actor either..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    Cameron Diaz is a really bad actress. She has had the odd decent performance but has the ability to single handedly ruin a movie with her "acting".

    she was **** in gangs of new york if it wasn't for daniel day lewis and Leonardo di caprio she would've sunk it


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    saabsaab wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree I think he deserves the stick usually. He was very good in Collateral 2004 suited him.


    I mentioned Cruise a few pages back saying he hadn't actually acted in the last twenty years so i looked up his film list since 2001 and there is a hell of a lot of films where he's just Tom Cruise in it and I'd have to say Collateral is one of the very few movies where i would say he was alright in.
    Maybe that's more down to Collateral being a good film, likewise I enjoyed American Made an enjoyable film.
    But Cruise is a mega star and gets paid the very top dollar so judging him as someone who is supposedly at the very top pinnacle of his profession, nay sorry a good actor he is not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Tarah04


    ypres5 wrote: »
    she was **** in gangs of new york if it wasn't for daniel day lewis and Leonardo di caprio she would've sunk it

    Ye but she gave us Something About Mary


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Paul Dano - The weird guy in there will be blood. Such a weak performance by him.

    Also all those tight cast Jewish actors that just do one liners as comedy like Michael Cera, Jessie Eisenberg, Justin long, Ezra Miller and probably a few others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Tarah04 wrote: »
    Ye but she gave us Something About Mary

    And the mask. Holy jaysus when when walked into the bank wearing that red dress.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Paul Dano - The weird guy in there will be blood. Such a weak performance by him.

    I'm not having this, Dano is an excellent actor and more than holds his own with Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood

    He may "specialise" in playing characters that are a little off the beaten track but he does it very well - it may be a case that you dislike the character rather than the performance? Prisoners and Taking Lives would be other examples of him playing creepy weirdos to perfection


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I'm not having this, Dano is an excellent actor and more than holds his own with Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood

    He may "specialise" in playing characters that are a little off the beaten track but he does it very well - it may be a case that you dislike the character rather than the performance? Prisoners and Taking Lives would be other examples of him playing creepy weirdos to perfection

    Yeah he’s an amazing actor (and a top class weirdo character actor )


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    He’s probably a good actor but I never find Ethan Hawke an engaging performer


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yeah he’s an amazing actor (and a top class weirdo character actor )

    Dano was great in Escape from Dannemora too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    Cate Blanchett

    Woeful just woeful


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I'm not having this, Dano is an excellent actor and more than holds his own with Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood

    He may "specialise" in playing characters that are a little off the beaten track but he does it very well - it may be a case that you dislike the character rather than the performance? Prisoners and Taking Lives would be other examples of him playing creepy weirdos to perfection

    Nope, I thought his acting was poor in that movie, this might sound like a contradiction but his acting was wooden, over the top and disengaging, he was good as the twin brother but as a the preacher he was annoying and not the character but the acting. The movie would be up there with the Godfathers if it wasn't for him and other movie directors have the same sentiment as me.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    Cate Blanchett

    Woeful just woeful

    One of the best out there in my opinion.

    Brilliant in anything I’ve seen her in.

    Thor - brilliant as Hella
    The Aviator - brilliant as Catherine Hepburn

    She was the best thing about the utter sh1tshow that was Indiana Jones 4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Jack Nicholson...
    Sorry i was thinking of best or likely favourite...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Jack Nicholson...
    Sorry i was thinking of best or likely favourite...


    No one else plays him better.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    You’ve missed out on some good movies then. He’s more of a star than a great actor but that’s ok. And he can act when we wants to.
    I've seen them. But he doesn't bring anything to them. You could replace him with a WWF star or get someone off a Scandinavian police series. For action movies you just need someone competent who won't distract from the action.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,348 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Cage is a good actor whose early career proves this, it's simply that (IIRC) he has had financial and tax issues that necessitated him saying yes to pretty much any job that crossed his desk. But unlike similar Z-movie, former stars like Bruce Willis, rather than act like it's all beneath him, Cage just goes for broke and channels some crazy energy.


    Said like a person who has either overlooked or never seen 'Vampires Kiss' if it's the former get on it immediately! An absolutely bonkers film that you couldn't imagine being made today Cage is woeful in it with diabolical attempt at a British accent to boot :D ...but he's so ridiculously captivating and some of the lines are something else, most should really have a right laugh how astonishingly bad this is. Recommended to those who got a kick out of 'The Room' for sure.

    Also a lot of the recognisable Cage memes stem from this piece of work but it's the certainly the template for a bulk of Cages later work...well in the last 15 years or so.

    Alva....Aaaaallllva


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Said like a person who has either overlooked or never seen 'Vampires Kiss' if it's the former get on it immediately! An absolutely bonkers film that you couldn't imagine being made today Cage is woeful in it with diabolical attempt at a British accent to boot :D ...but he's so ridiculously captivating and some of the lines are something else, most should really have a right laugh how astonishingly bad this is. Recommended to those who got a kick out of 'The Room' for sure.

    Also a lot of the recognisable Cage memes stem from this piece of work but it's the certainly the template for a bulk of Cages later work...well in the last 15 years or so.

    Alva....Aaaaallllva
    Ha cage is amazing in vampires kiss


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