Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

Degag

I presume some people were lucky to have a local pub that weren't stringent on the food and 1.75 hour thing?

PTH2009

Degag wrote: »

I presume some people were lucky to have a local pub that weren't stringent on the food and 1.75 hour thing?

Mixed bag

Some places were pretty stricked and really treated the pub like a restaurant and then others who were more lenient towards stuff tbh only remember once when a place just let you order drink without food. Some places used the 2M rule as it would be less hassle

Theres whispers all places will be treated the same

ingo1984

PTH2009 wrote: »

Mixed bag

Some places were pretty stricked and really treated the pub like a restaurant and then others who were more lenient towards stuff tbh only remember once when a place just let you order drink without food. Some places used the 2M rule as it would be less hassle

Theres whispers all places will be treated the same

The vintners have stated that they want all pubs to reopen at the same time. None of that gastro pubs opening and the rest closed.

GazzaL

So, who else has booked a holiday to the likes of Belfast and Derry?

ingo1984

GazzaL wrote: »

So, who else has booked a holiday to the likes of Belfast and Derry?

Booked Belfast for June Bank Holiday. 3 nights, 4 star hotel, for 250 euro. Can't wait.

PTH2009

Got a few takeaway pints today and enjoyed them but that paranoia is there. You don't know if the guards will come around the corner and find ya, finding is also a hassle

The sooner the better places reopen properly

Fair play to all of ye who booked nights away in the north, have a few nights booked for Cork in July but ill be keeping an eye on what's happening like us all. Massive gig goer and if arenas are open in the UK then ill be thinking about that

Getting the jab is my only worry, early 30s and healthy (touch wood)

vafankillar

PTH2009 wrote: »

Got a few takeaway pints today and enjoyed them but that paranoia is there. You don't know if the guards will come around the corner and find ya, finding is also a hassle

if you're just having a few pints there's almost no chance you'd be bothered by guards ?? i've been in town a few times there's always walking around or by people drinking them and places serving them

PTH2009

vafankillar wrote: »

if you're just having a few pints there's almost no chance you'd be bothered by guards ?? i've been in town a few times there's always walking around or by people drinking them and places serving them

This whole 'city by law' stuff is confusing

Pauliedragon

Dickie10 wrote: »

Does anyoone else feel Leo is always the one that is looking at hospitality opening up , and micheal martin always seems to bring the doom and gloom?

Probably because it'll be next years budget that we'll get hammered not this year and he'll be in charge then so he wants as much cash in the bank before he takes over in 2022.

GazzaL

ingo1984 wrote: »

Booked Belfast for June Bank Holiday. 3 nights, 4 star hotel, for 250 euro. Can't wait.

Excellent value, in fairness! You're looking at about €295+ currently for the same. There'll be some craic up there!

ingo1984

PTH2009 wrote: »

This whole 'city by law' stuff is confusing

Council bye laws don't permit drinking in public. Bit like the littering bye laws. So it's up to the council to enforce it and not the guards. Guards will however seize the alcohol if its an under age person drinking it as its a breach of national law. However an adult walking down the street drinking a can, guards can't do much unless the person is acting the b0llo* in which then they'll do ya for a public order offence.

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

This whole 'city by law' stuff is confusing

When will we have late bars properly fully open? I'm talking packed, 4 deep at the bar..2am finish.
Surely August seeing as everyone will have had 1 jab? Looking at Israel it looks like we're nearly finished with this

Dickie10

Donnie90 wrote: »

When will we have late bars properly fully open? I'm talking packed, 4 deep at the bar..2am finish.
Surely August seeing as everyone will have had 1 jab? Looking at Israel it looks like we're nearly finished with this

Im in no way a conspiracy nut, BUT , I have a very real feeling that the people in power have absolutley no desire to ever see that sort of nightlife again. The medics in there fantasies see everyone over 21 nights out as being a meal, with a glass or two (max) of wine or 2 bottles of craft beer for the guy, followed by a stroll home and in bed by 11:30.

does anyone really picture any of these medical heads we have been seeing so much of in the last year as guy/gal who heads for pints of a saturday evening watching sports and staying a bit to late after having 7 or 8 pints? Or for the under 40s medics downing shots in coppers or some late bar even a few times in a year?
these people are usually the nerdy type in school , ones who didnt get invited to underage house parties and never let themselves off the leash in college.

they probably believe only teens aged 17-21 should be allowed leeway to have more nightclub type nights out and then it should be that for life. No Galway races/coppers type antics by people from 21-40 and the rest at the likes of cheltenham/galway/listowel races. the sight of shop st during race week id say would have them running for the hills.

my point is , that NYPHET see this as their chance to kill social settings such as that, but of course i think once events like that come back they simply cant control what people do, because thankfully were not in a despot country offically yet.

So to answer the question I find the idea of coppers/flannerys etc so alien to even imagine them open the way they used to be i actually cant see when it will be. you have to imagine if they arent allowed open when 80% of adults are vaxxed then why on earth not? and at what point will it ever be safe to open these? i suppose the likes of gigs and conncerts will pave the way for nightclubs to open, once gigs start in like of 02 with 2,000 people then its pretty much the same as a nightclub. Im more of a nightclub person than gigs so really looking forward to them.

Coillte_Bhoy

GazzaL wrote: »

So, who else has booked a holiday to the likes of Belfast and Derry?

Booked couple of nights in Derry June weekend, will see what crack is nearer the time but hopefully will go

Coillte_Bhoy

GazzaL wrote: »

Excellent value, in fairness! You're looking at about €295+ currently for the same. There'll be some craic up there!

Ya still plenty decent hotels at less than €300 for the weekend

PTH2009

Dickie10 wrote: »

Im in no way a conspiracy nut, BUT , I have a very real feeling that the people in power have absolutley no desire to ever see that sort of nightlife again. The medics in there fantasies see everyone over 21 nights out as being a meal, with a glass or two (max) of wine or 2 bottles of craft beer for the guy, followed by a stroll home and in bed by 11:30.

does anyone really picture any of these medical heads we have been seeing so much of in the last year as guy/gal who heads for pints of a saturday evening watching sports and staying a bit to late after having 7 or 8 pints? Or for the under 40s medics downing shots in coppers or some late bar even a few times in a year?
these people are usually the nerdy type in school , ones who didnt get invited to underage house parties and never let themselves off the leash in college.

they probably believe only teens aged 17-21 should be allowed leeway to have more nightclub type nights out and then it should be that for life. No Galway races/coppers type antics by people from 21-40 and the rest at the likes of cheltenham/galway/listowel races. the sight of shop st during race week id say would have them running for the hills.

my point is , that NYPHET see this as their chance to kill social settings such as that, but of course i think once events like that come back they simply cant control what people do, because thankfully were not in a despot country offically yet.

So to answer the question I find the idea of coppers/flannerys etc so alien to even imagine them open the way they used to be i actually cant see when it will be. you have to imagine if they arent allowed open when 80% of adults are vaxxed then why on earth not? and at what point will it ever be safe to open these? i suppose the likes of gigs and conncerts will pave the way for nightclubs to open, once gigs start in like of 02 with 2,000 people then its pretty much the same as a nightclub. Im more of a nightclub person than gigs so really looking forward to them.

A lot of that is true esp how HSE mental health doctors always mention the A word ie Alcohol (Are you drinking to much Alcohol ?? etc) but tbh a lot of these types were students once upon a time and try to understand it but are cute enough to settle down etc

It was hell for single people before covid and god knows what it's going to be like now (will i go ahead and **** myself into a river ?)

Its depressing and no matter what doctors say 'tablets' wont work (my personal experience may work for others)

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

A lot of that is true esp how HSE mental health doctors always mention the A word ie Alcohol (Are you drinking to much Alcohol ?? etc) but tbh a lot of these types were students once upon a time and try to understand it but are cute enough to settle down etc

It was hell for single people before covid and god knows what it's going to be like now (will i go ahead and **** myself into a river ?)

Its depressing and no matter what doctors say 'tablets' wont work

I hear what ye are saying,NPHET would love the continental style cafe culture etc but I think things will get back to normal soon enough...last summer was different with no vaccines but when there's no one in hospital with covid come July I think it'll be hard to stop the lager swilling masses from enjoying their weekly unbridled session , mixing with the great unwashed for just a few hours in a late bar🀠

stephenjmcd

Dickie10 wrote: »

Im in no way a conspiracy nut, BUT.

The only part of the post that wasn't conspiracy ramblings

Coillte_Bhoy

Dickie10 wrote: »

Im in no way a conspiracy nut, BUT , I have a very real feeling that the people in power have absolutley no desire to ever see that sort of nightlife again. The medics in there fantasies see everyone over 21 nights out as being a meal, with a glass or two (max) of wine or 2 bottles of craft beer for the guy, followed by a stroll home and in bed by 11:30.

does anyone really picture any of these medical heads we have been seeing so much of in the last year as guy/gal who heads for pints of a saturday evening watching sports and staying a bit to late after having 7 or 8 pints? Or for the under 40s medics downing shots in coppers or some late bar even a few times in a year?
these people are usually the nerdy type in school , ones who didnt get invited to underage house parties and never let themselves off the leash in college.

they probably believe only teens aged 17-21 should be allowed leeway to have more nightclub type nights out and then it should be that for life. No Galway races/coppers type antics by people from 21-40 and the rest at the likes of cheltenham/galway/listowel races. the sight of shop st during race week id say would have them running for the hills.

my point is , that NYPHET see this as their chance to kill social settings such as that, but of course i think once events like that come back they simply cant control what people do, because thankfully were not in a despot country offically yet.

So to answer the question I find the idea of coppers/flannerys etc so alien to even imagine them open the way they used to be i actually cant see when it will be. you have to imagine if they arent allowed open when 80% of adults are vaxxed then why on earth not? and at what point will it ever be safe to open these? i suppose the likes of gigs and conncerts will pave the way for nightclubs to open, once gigs start in like of 02 with 2,000 people then its pretty much the same as a nightclub. Im more of a nightclub person than gigs so really looking forward to them.

All i can say is you obviously didnt drink with med students in college.

You are talking utter generalised nonsense, why on earth would the powers that be (ie the Govt not NPHET though i realise people like you have a difficulty distinguishing the two) want to destroy the Irish pub scene and with it half the tourist/hospitality industry? Seriously??

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The only part of the post that wasn't conspiracy ramblings

I think there’s a massive pile of truth in what they’re saying.

Evening will be done to keep pubs closed for as long as possible in the hope that as few as possible reopen. Then Leo can turn us into Italy or France and get his tummy rubbed by the EU.

Coillte_Bhoy

Donnie90 wrote: »

I hear what ye are saying,NPHET would love the continental style cafe culture etc but I think things will get back to normal soon enough...last summer was different with no vaccines but when there's no one in hospital with covid come July I think it'll be hard to stop the lager swilling masses from enjoying their weekly unbridled session , mixing with the great unwashed for just a few hours in a late bar��

As someone who loves (or used to anyway) sitting at the bar drinking pints in dark dingy pubs, i actually would like to see the cafe culture become more prevalent in Ireland, there is room for both imo. On holidays i love being able to have a place where you can have a small beer or glass of wine or a coffee etc without being looked on as if you have 2 heads cos you are not horsing back pints

PommieBast

PTH2009 wrote: »

It was hell for single people before covid and god knows what it's going to be like now (will i go ahead and **** myself into a river ?)

If I had not booked the first available flight to my parents' place in the UK after my breakup last summer, I probably would have done something stupidly dangerous that is not far off that.

Coillte_Bhoy

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I think there’s a massive pile of truth in what they’re saying.

Evening will be done to keep pubs closed for as long as possible in the hope that as few as possible reopen. Then Leo can turn us into Italy or France and get his tummy rubbed by the EU.

So its the EU now that wnat to get rid of our pub culture? You people, honestly. Coming into these threads every week or so is a real tonic, always a good laugh

Dickie10

Thats what i would imagine, i asked a few times what exactly nightlife is like in europe, i have only ever been to Lanzarote and santa ponsa, so pretty much like British Isles on tour so no difference, i was in Leipzig mid week about 4 years ago, it was terrible, i couldnt find lively student areas. Like are there disco bars or any live music bars in europe. i know there must be nightclubs but i would imagine there not the cheese type nightclubs of Britain and Ireland? just all house or trance or something, like do europeans mingle and swing each other round the floor type stuff like you see in Britain and Ireland? i think we behave totally different on nights out in the British Isles. i suppose if they want gigs and comedy and theatre back they will also have to allow nightclubs and late bars. there in exact same type settings, large crowds in small enough areas. like is whelans or places like that still on the go pre covid? there very small places for gigs like vicar st too.

When you think of it there must be a full generation of young comedians and musicans that cant get going if this sort of activvity is stopped til 2022. you always hear of those like Bono and U2 and Thin Lizzy going around these small venues in 1970s.

stephenjmcd

Dickie10 wrote: »

Thats what i would imagine, i asked a few times what exactly nightlife is like in europe, i have only ever been to Lanzarote and santa ponsa, so pretty much like British Isles on tour so no difference, i was in Leipzig mid week about 4 years ago, it was terrible, i couldnt find lively student areas. Like are there disco bars or any live music bars in europe. i know there must be nightclubs but i would imagine there not the cheese type nightclubs of Britain and Ireland? just all house or trance or something, like do europeans mingle and swing each other round the floor type stuff like you see in Britain and Ireland? i think we behave totally different on nights out in the British Isles. i suppose if they want gigs and comedy and theatre back they will also have to allow nightclubs and late bars. there in exact same type settings, large crowds in small enough areas. like is whelans or places like that still on the go pre covid? there very small places for gigs like vicar st too.

When you think of it there must be a full generation of young comedians and musicans that cant get going if this sort of activvity is stopped til 2022. you always hear of those like Bono and U2 and Thin Lizzy going around these small venues in 1970s.

You've clearly not been to the right places in Europe so. I like my pubs and clubs in Ireland but the ones in Europe, Germany, Austria, Poland, Holland to name a few that I've been in are next level altogether. Some of the best nights out ever had, a million miles better than a night out here.

You quite clearly have no idea what European nightlife is like & have this idea that it's all cafe culture. Far from it.

Honestly I've dipped in and out of this thread and it would give the conspiracy thread a run for its money

mightyreds

Yeah I've traveled across most of the world and there are plenty of night clubs, pubs similar to ireland in europe, US, asia and australia.

I find the US is actually worse for a night out than europe you could get refused a 3rd pint in the US because you've had too much, not that your hammered it's that you've had 2 and that's too much.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Honestly I've dipped in and out of this thread and it would give the conspiracy thread a run for its money

You have actually hit most points i was trying to make too but this one I can sympathize with, the messaging from the government around the substantial meal and time limit was horrendous.
The rules simply had no communication or scientific reason around them, so they fueled alternative theory's as to why they were in place.

dominatinMC

Dickie10 wrote: »

Im in no way a conspiracy nut, BUT , I have a very real feeling that the people in power have absolutley no desire to ever see that sort of nightlife again. The medics in there fantasies see everyone over 21 nights out as being a meal, with a glass or two (max) of wine or 2 bottles of craft beer for the guy, followed by a stroll home and in bed by 11:30.

does anyone really picture any of these medical heads we have been seeing so much of in the last year as guy/gal who heads for pints of a saturday evening watching sports and staying a bit to late after having 7 or 8 pints? Or for the under 40s medics downing shots in coppers or some late bar even a few times in a year?
these people are usually the nerdy type in school , ones who didnt get invited to underage house parties and never let themselves off the leash in college.

they probably believe only teens aged 17-21 should be allowed leeway to have more nightclub type nights out and then it should be that for life. No Galway races/coppers type antics by people from 21-40 and the rest at the likes of cheltenham/galway/listowel races. the sight of shop st during race week id say would have them running for the hills.

my point is , that NYPHET see this as their chance to kill social settings such as that, but of course i think once events like that come back they simply cant control what people do, because thankfully were not in a despot country offically yet.

So to answer the question I find the idea of coppers/flannerys etc so alien to even imagine them open the way they used to be i actually cant see when it will be. you have to imagine if they arent allowed open when 80% of adults are vaxxed then why on earth not? and at what point will it ever be safe to open these? i suppose the likes of gigs and conncerts will pave the way for nightclubs to open, once gigs start in like of 02 with 2,000 people then its pretty much the same as a nightclub. Im more of a nightclub person than gigs so really looking forward to them.

Two points (although I wish they were pints):
One - NPHET do not make any policy decisions whatsoever
Two - As recently as last month, the government launched a new plan to revitalise the late night social scene. I can't remember all the details of this, but one aspect was longer opening hours for pubs and nightclubs. That doesn't exactly look like the death knell to me.

Del Griffith

dominatinMC wrote: »

Two points (although I wish they were pints):
One - NPHET do not make any policy decisions whatsoever

On paper they don't, in practice they make every decision as since Christmas the government is too scared to go against any of their recommendations despite them have a complete tunnel vision and utter disregard for anything outside their remit.

No politician has the backbone to make any decision now without having the right to point the finger at NPHET afterwards so that when the **** hits the fan in the economy (and it will), they can break out the old chestnut "we were following the health advice".

Coillte_Bhoy

Del Griffith wrote: »

On paper they don't, in practice they make every decision as since Christmas the government is too scared to go against any of their recommendations despite them have a complete tunnel vision and utter disregard for anything outside their remit.

No politician has the backbone to make any decision now without having the right to point the finger at NPHET afterwards so that when the **** hits the fan in the economy (and it will), they can break out the old chestnut "we were following the health advice".

Yes they have a specific remit, its not their job to look at the wider implications of public health measures, thats up to Govt. If as you say Govt are afraid to go against them thats not their issue

hynesie08

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

All i can say is you obviously didnt drink with med students in college.

You are talking utter generalised nonsense, why on earth would the powers that be (ie the Govt not NPHET though i realise people like you have a difficulty distinguishing the two) want to destroy the Irish pub scene and with it half the tourist/hospitality industry? Seriously??

The fact that he mentioned flannerys/Coppers, which are only kept afloat by medical professionals, shows that he couldn't possibly believe what he's typing.