Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

Kunta Kinte

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I think there’s a massive pile of truth in what they’re saying.

Evening will be done to keep pubs closed for as long as possible in the hope that as few as possible reopen. Then Leo can turn us into Italy or France and get his tummy rubbed by the EU.

Err.......news for you. Leo is not actually the Taoiseach anymore.

Del Griffith

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Yes they have a specific remit, its not their job to look at the wider implications of public health measures, thats up to Govt. If as you say Govt are afraid to go against them thats not their issue

Correct. They have been given way too much power by a government with no spine.

They do have a place, but it should be one voice at the table (if even), not the practically solo one.

Kunta Kinte

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Err.......news for you. Leo is not actually the Taoiseach anymore.

Isn’t he though? Only waiting his turn and is allowed to be the good news bear all the time.

Dickie10

well at the minute thats just the way the game looks. So like has anyone any other ideas when the like of gigs in small venues and nightclubs will open? there was someone here that used to throw hissy fits if people were passing conversation about possible dates opening , i hope hes gone back to hide behind the couch again and wont come on the attack

saabsaab

Might be a good idea to start opening special Covid friendly pubs for those that have vaccines?



Great selling point. Produce your proof at the door and in you go..

saabsaab

saabsaab wrote: »

Might be a good idea to start opening special Covid friendly pubs for those that have vaccines?



Great selling point. Produce your proof at the door and in you go..

Pass. Only fostering resentment in the youthful and healthy, why should they be turned away. Not to mention driving down profit margins. Once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, open the doors to all and let the good times roll.

saabsaab

Del Griffith wrote: »

Correct. They have been given way too much power by a government with no spine.

They do have a place, but it should be one voice at the table (if even), not the practically solo one.

They went against the advice before Christmas and it didn't work out. No good reason to ignore their advice now.

saabsaab

Deleted User wrote: »

Pass. Only fostering resentment in the youthful and healthy, why should they be turned away. Not to mention driving down profit margins. Once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, open the doors to all and let the good times roll.

That cohort is pretty much done now. the advice is that it is too soon yet until more are done say end of June. Could be done as a pilot basis in a few quieter pubs with older clientele?

Squiggle

saabsaab wrote: »

Might be a good idea to start opening special Covid friendly pubs for those that have vaccines?



Great selling point. Produce your proof at the door and in you go..

But there isn't clear evidence that vaccines stop transmission AFAIK.

Produce proof at the door that you aren't infectious would make more sense ie using a Rapid Antigen test. NPHET won't sign off on them unfortunately because there are two doctors on NPHET who wont support their use !

dominatinMC

Squiggle wrote: »

But there isn't clear evidence that vaccines stop transmission AFAIK.

Produce proof at the door that you aren't infectious would make more sense ie using a Rapid Antigen test. NPHET won't sign off on them unfortunately because thee are two doctors on NPHET who wont support their use !

This evidence is increasing and it now appears quite clear that vaccines are reducing transmission by a significant margin. What isn't clear is if the vaccines prevent outright transmission. In any case, the fact they are reducing transmission at all is an added bonus as they were never really designed to do so.

Tenzor07

saabsaab wrote: »

Might be a good idea to start opening special Covid friendly pubs for those that have vaccines? Great selling point. Produce your proof at the door and in you go..

Ridiculous, unworkable and pointless... Vaccinated Pubs... whatever next!

Stormyteacup

saabsaab wrote: »

Might be a good idea to start opening special Covid friendly pubs for those that have vaccines?



Great selling point. Produce your proof at the door and in you go..

Laughable.

Are these new licensed premises or existing ones?

If new, are they operated by vaccinated staff - while unvaccinated hospitality workers, and owners of existing licensed premises cheer on their enterprising spirit while they are denied earning a living?

If existing - is the staff to be vaccinated or would it not matter in this case if virus is transmitted to staff and spread increased?

For that matter - would be happy to hop on a plane with crew not yet offered a vaccine if that was sanctioned?

So long as the vaccinated person is alright Jack I guess.

saabsaab

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Laughable.

Are these new licensed premises or existing ones?

If new, are they operated by vaccinated staff - while unvaccinated hospitality workers, and owners of existing licensed premises cheer on their enterprising spirit while they are denied earning a living?

If existing - is the staff to be vaccinated or would it not matter in this case if virus is transmitted to staff and spread increased?

For that matter - would be happy to hop on a plane with crew not yet offered a vaccine if that was sanctioned?

So long as the vaccinated person is alright Jack I guess.

Bit of a stretch alright but what if its the only way they open?

Real Donald Trump

Fair fecks to this pub owner :pac:

saabsaab

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ridiculous, unworkable and pointless... Vaccinated Pubs... whatever next!

No smoking pubs!

PTH2009

It's anyone's guess at wtf will happen with hospitality here in the next few months

Maximum numbers for places is a given id say

Will the mandatory food rule and booking system be once again implemented ?

Will we still have the restricted hours or will they go back to pre covid times ?

ATM looking like late May/June for outdoor and then Indoor from July but who knows

saabsaab

'May/June for outdoor and then Indoor from July'


Yes, pending vaccinations/variants.

ingo1984

Start of June will be outdoor for all pubs. However hotels can allow indoor with the previous restrictions of table service for guests staying in the hotel. This will run for 6 weeks.

Mid July all pubs can open indoor with table service. No time limit or food nonsense. This will run for 6 weeks.

Start of September back to normal.

PTH2009

ingo1984 wrote: »

Start of June will be outdoor for all pubs. However hotels can allow indoor with the previous restrictions of table service for guests staying in the hotel. This will run for 6 weeks.

Mid July all pubs can open indoor with table service. No time limit or food nonsense. This will run for 6 weeks.

Start of September back to normal.

Lets hope its normal opening hours and not 10.30pm last orders out by 11pm

Del Griffith

saabsaab wrote: »

They went against the advice before Christmas and it didn't work out. No good reason to ignore their advice now.

Thank you for proving my point - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116923784&postcount=599

Dickie10

ingo1984 wrote: »

Start of June will be outdoor for all pubs. However hotels can allow indoor with the previous restrictions of table service for guests staying in the hotel. This will run for 6 weeks.

Mid July all pubs can open indoor with table service. No time limit or food nonsense. This will run for 6 weeks.

Start of September back to normal.

be great if it was , i think it will be early -mid august. i suppose you would have great peace once you keep away from busy pubs any pubs with 5-6 regulars of an evening wont be bothering people with table service or any of that shhhite. thats where i will be in those places shooting the breeze and talking ****e

Tenzor07

saabsaab wrote: »

No smoking pubs!

Irish Govt. have an agenda against pubs as they do for aviation/travel..

many countries in Europe had their Pubs open last summer when everyone in Ireland was sat at home convincing themselves that cans of Guinness were "just as good as draught".... even when the 7 day average case numbers were higher then as cases are here, in places like Belgium and Luxembourg you could still go and have a pint without a meal....
13 months on, no pints here.

saabsaab

Their advice was ignored and look what happened! Good reason I'd say.

hynesie08

ingo1984 wrote: »

Start of June will be outdoor for all pubs. However hotels can allow indoor with the previous restrictions of table service for guests staying in the hotel. This will run for 6 weeks.

Mid July all pubs can open indoor with table service. No time limit or food nonsense. This will run for 6 weeks.

Start of September back to normal.

Where'd you hear that? Down the pub?

saabsaab

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Irish Govt. have an agenda against pubs as they do for aviation/travel..

many countries in Europe had their Pubs open last summer when everyone in Ireland was sat at home convincing themselves that cans of Guinness were "just as good as draught".... even when the 7 day average case numbers were higher then as cases are here, in places like Belgium and Luxembourg you could still go and have a pint without a meal....
13 months on, no pints here.

No they don't! Conspiracy theorist stuff. It is that those activities are most dangerous now.

Degag

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Irish Govt. have an agenda against pubs as they do for aviation/travel..

many countries in Europe had their Pubs open last summer when everyone in Ireland was sat at home convincing themselves that cans of Guinness were "just as good as draught".... even when the 7 day average case numbers were higher then as cases are here, in places like Belgium and Luxembourg you could still go and have a pint without a meal....
13 months on, no pints here.

I've heard of the agenda against pubs but the agenda against travel is a new one on me. Pray tell how you came to this conclusion?

Rows Grower

[QUOTE=Tenzor07;116942047]Irish Govt. have an agenda against pubs as they do for aviation/travel..

many countries in Europe had their Pubs open last summer when everyone in Ireland was sat at home convincing themselves that cans of Guinness were "just as good as draught".... even when the 7 day average case numbers were higher then as cases are here, in places like Belgium and Luxembourg you could still go and have a pint without a meal....
13 months on, no pints here.[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly sure you are well off the mark there.

The Irish Government know like those before them did, that they need the revenue from the pubs and air travellers to run the country.

Tenzor07

saabsaab wrote: »

No they don't! Conspiracy theorist stuff. It is that those activities are most dangerous now.

You've been here long enough to do better than little snipes like that..

Last summer pubs in Europe were open(as you well know) whereas they've been closed here for 13 months, the roof on the world didn't collapse last summer and neither will it when pubs up the North open at the end of this month....when many people from the South will be having a great night out up there, as you sit here telling us still how "Dangerous" pubs are..

Tenzor07

Rows Grower wrote: »

I'm fairly sure you are well off the mark there.
The Irish Government know like those before them did, that they need the revenue from the pubs and air travellers to run the country.

The Government have been quite happily borrowing Billions on the market at low rates....they don't seem desperate for the revenue...

Where's the plan for reopening pubs and restarting aviation? I wanna see just how far off the mark I am...

saabsaab

Tenzor07 wrote: »

You've been here long enough to do better than little snipes like that..

Last summer pubs in Europe were open(as you well know) whereas they've been closed here for 13 months, the roof on the world didn't collapse last summer and neither will it when pubs up the North open at the end of this month....when many people from the South will be having a great night out up there, as you sit here telling us still how "Dangerous" pubs are..

Not a snipe just the truth. It is the stuff of conspiracy theory.