Sinn Fein cancels bomber commemoration

markodaly

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I don't see the relevance to this thread.

It's a reminder how 'heroic' the PIRA were, like this lad who SF tried to commemorate.
He was nothing more than a terrorist who put innocent lives in danger.

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

It's a reminder how 'heroic' the PIRA were, like this lad who SF tried to commemorate.
He was nothing more than a terrorist who put innocent lives in danger.

Died fighting for ireland though.....more worthy of commeration,than the tans imo


(Deosnt article in your lil tweet,admit he was innocent victim of a bomb,left for security forces?)

Natterjack from Kerry

Deleted User wrote: »

Died fighting for ireland though.

Bloody hell. Fighting for ireland. LOL.
Fantasist goon more like. If he had asked Ireland, it would have just asked him to grow up and cop himself on.

Natterjack from Kerry

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Bloody hell. Fighting for ireland. LOL.
Fantasist goon more like. If he had asked Ireland, it would have just asked him to grow up and cop himself on.

Meh.....you can disagree with his methods and idologly,


Whether it/he was right or wrong is each persons personal viewpoint,i guess,but the chap did in his view,die for ireland

jm08

markodaly wrote: »

It's a reminder how 'heroic' the PIRA were, like this lad who SF tried to commemorate.
He was nothing more than a terrorist who put innocent lives in danger.

Yet about 2,000 people turned up to his funeral in Wexford.
https://youtu.be/eX1GxENJZtA?t=131

Natterjack from Kerry

jm08 wrote: »

Yet about 2,000 people turned up to his funeral in Wexford.

Hell, they'll turn out even if it means breaking covid restrictions.

jm08

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Hell, they'll turn out even if it means breaking covid restrictions.

Who is ''they'' - the people of Gorey?

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

Died fighting for ireland though.....more worthy of commeration,than the tans imo


(Deosnt article in your lil tweet,admit he was innocent victim of a bomb,left for security forces?)

I suppose because he believes he died fighting for Ireland, I guess that absolves him and his type of all their crimes.
Fantastic logic in excusing murderers.

ExMachina1000

markodaly wrote: »

I suppose because he believes he died fighting for Ireland, I guess that absolves him and his type of all their crimes.
Fantastic logic in excusing murderers.

What about the ones who only killed soldiers?

markodaly

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

What about the ones who only killed soldiers?

Would you include Irish soldiers and Gardai in that camp?

ExMachina1000

markodaly wrote: »

Would you include Irish soldiers and Gardai in that camp?

British soldiers ie the enemy

The ones that were shooting civilians and terrorizing people in northern Ireland. Those soldiers.
War hardened from Tours of Africa.

blanch152

jm08 wrote: »

Yet about 2,000 people turned up to his funeral in Wexford.
https://youtu.be/eX1GxENJZtA?t=131

Nobody asked him to fight for Ireland.

I would get more than 2,000 at my funeral (not including posters on here wanting to see I was really dead), that doesn’t mean a thing.

He is a stain on Ireland’s reputation, someone who should be consigned to the dustbin of history, the Irish equivalent of those who flew into the Twin Towers.

markodaly

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

British soldiers ie the enemy

The same soldiers that Nationalists and the IRA welcomed when initially deployed?

War hardened from Tours of Africa.

Well, that is a bit of a lie. The vast majority of people who served in the BA were working-class guys from the likes of Stoke or Hull, young men who were first deployed in the North.

jm08

blanch152 wrote: »

Nobody asked him to fight for Ireland.

I would get more than 2,000 at my funeral (not including posters on here wanting to see I was really dead), that doesn’t mean a thing.

He is a stain on Ireland’s reputation, someone who should be consigned to the dustbin of history, the Irish equivalent of those who flew into the Twin Towers.

You are not a terrorist Blanch, so no comparison. If you were from Gorey, would you go to the funeral even though you are revolted by the person's actions?

jm08

markodaly wrote: »

The same soldiers that Nationalists and the IRA welcomed when initially deployed?

The nationalists didn't like them so much when they started terrorising them. Did you not know that they thought they were there to save them from the loyalists and what they got was worse.

Well, that is a bit of a lie. The vast majority of people who served in the BA were working-class guys from the likes of Stoke or Hull, young men who were first deployed in the North.

Some say that NI was used for 'training' to harden the young fellows up before they were let loose elsewhere. It was very convenient because they could do what they liked in their own country and no one would say a word to them.

markodaly

jm08 wrote: »

The nationalists didn't like them so much when they started terrorising them. Did you not know that they thought they were there to save them from the loyalists and what they got was worse.

Ahistorical lies. The IRA were humiliated by the arrival of the BA to save the nationalists, so the Provos wanted to settle some scores and take pot shots at the BA, who in turn had to try and police the situation and go after the Provos in the community, which of course escalated.

Some say that NI was used for 'training' to harden the young fellows up before they were let loose elsewhere. It was very convenient because they could do what they liked in their own country and no one would say a word to them.

"Some say" Who are these people? Some guys on the Fall's Road? :P

James Brown

end of the road wrote: »

this is only the case in wishful thinking and not in reality, where you are completely incorrect on all points.

I think he's having a laugh most posts.

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Ahistorical lies. The IRA were humiliated by the arrival of the BA to save the nationalists, so the Provos wanted to settle some scores and take pot shots at the BA, who in turn had to try and police the situation and go after the Provos in the community, which of course escalated.


"Some say" Who are these people? Some guys on the Fall's Road? :P

That's some re-write of history there

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

I suppose because he believes he died fighting for Ireland, I guess that absolves him and his type of all their crimes.
Fantastic logic in excusing murderers.

Noone said it absolves em from anything though?

Whatisthisnow

markodaly wrote: »

Ahistorical lies. The IRA were humiliated by the arrival of the BA to save the nationalists, so the Provos wanted to settle some scores and take pot shots at the BA, who in turn had to try and police the situation and go after the Provos in the community, which of course escalated.






"Some say" Who are these people? Some guys on the Fall's Road? :P

Wow, whats worrying is you probably believe all that

maccored

markodaly wrote: »

Ahistorical lies. The IRA were humiliated by the arrival of the BA to save the nationalists, so the Provos wanted to settle some scores and take pot shots at the BA, who in turn had to try and police the situation and go after the Provos in the community, which of course escalated.

More rubbish pretending to be fact. Learn your history -

the provos didnt exist when the brits arrived ffs. The IRA barely existed at that time.

people were glad to see the soldiers thinking they would protect them from the loyalist and RUC attacks. the army joined in with the attackers instead and after that there were no more cups of tea.

The army arrived in aug, the provos started at the end of the following december.

jm08

markodaly wrote: »

Ahistorical lies. The IRA were humiliated by the arrival of the BA to save the nationalists, so the Provos wanted to settle some scores and take pot shots at the BA, who in turn had to try and police the situation and go after the Provos in the community, which of course escalated.

"Some say" Who are these people? Some guys on the Fall's Road? :P

I think its generally known that it suited the hawks in the British Military to have their troops battle hardened and ready as bar the Falksland for much of that time up to Afghanistan/Iraq, there wasn't much action for a professional army.



just for the record, the BA arrived in Northern Ireland in Aug 1969. The IRA split in December '69 and the Provos didn't really become a problem until 1972. The Official IRA were fairly harmless up to that. Certainly wouldn't have bothered the British Army.