Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

arthursway

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118525001#Comment_118525001

I don't know if Bernie Sanders would agree with you.

But yes both parties are certainly guilty of it no question.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118526849#Comment_118526849

Aside from the fact that Bernie Sanders is an Independent and not a member of the Democrat Party , has he been censured? has he been primaried? has been removed from committees etc.?

There's a pretty long list on the GOP side where the answer to most/all of those questions is a resounding yes.

Equally how many GOP people have simply walked away in the last few years rather than fight the Primary they knew was coming because they spoke out against Trump?

No Political party is immune from this kind of stuff ,but the current GOP are orders of magnitude beyond anyone else in their demands for absolute fealty to Trump , not the party - Trump.

Fathom

A third party of independents would be a solution to the 2 party problem Adams cautioned about. But just like an oxymoron, neither party would allow it to occur.

So we stand in the American political laundromat watching the 2 parties take their turns spinning their worthless messages. Where impression management is more important than addressing voter’s needs.

Biden will come. And Biden will go. With the GOP focused on pointing out Biden mistakes. No matter how small. For PR sake and nothing of value. Followed by a GOP president (probably Trump) who will in turn have the Dems repeating the previous cycle of the GOP condemnations. Around and around we go. Where it stops no one knows.

arthursway

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118526963#Comment_118526963

Great post a third option is what is needed in my opinion but as you mentioned extremely unlikely anytime soon if ever.

More people are becoming politically fatigued with the current situation as it's become so polarizing and exhausting with many beginning to see that there is no good guys, both sides love their lobbying both sides lie and both sides never really change anything and if they actually want to it's impossible to get anything radical through the house and senate anyway.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118526947#Comment_118526947

Come up out of it, Sanders was the front runner twice and the DNC actively worked against him.

This was leaked in 2016

‘The leaks resulted in allegations of bias against Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign, in apparent contradiction with the DNC leadership's publicly stated neutrality,[6] as several DNC operatives seemed to deride Sanders' campaign and discussed ways to advance Hillary Clinton's nomination’

‘The DNC issued a formal apology to Bernie Sanders and his supporters "for the inexcusable remarks made over email" that did not reflect the DNC's "steadfast commitment to neutrality during the nominating process.’

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118526963#Comment_118526963

Realistically , the US Political system is more like 4 or possibly 5 distinct groupings right now.

In the GOP you got a Far-right where the Marjorie Taylor-Greenes and Paul Gosars live , you've then got a more traditional GOP where Cheney and Romney types exist.

With the Democrats you have what's called the "far left" in the US , but are really not especially "left" at all in a global context where AOC et al are , you then have the more traditional Democrats of the Biden type.

There's an argument for a 5th grouping somewhere around the middle with moderates from both sides , but that's a stretch.

With a normal electoral system that's what would happen organically and you'd have coalitions etc. forming alliances to control the House and Senate.

It would also force them to actually find consensus and compromise on Policy as it would be a requirement to create working majorities.

The ever increasing gap between the "sides" within the parties on both sides means that the ability to actually govern and pass meaningful legislation is becoming more and more unachievable for both sides.

Hard to see any way it gets better though.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118527034#Comment_118527034

Caution should be used when reading Gallup polls results. They reported independent voters at 42 percent, democrats 30 percent, and republicans 26 percent December 1-16, 2021. Consequently Biden and both parties must manage their impressions to attract independents if they want to control both houses and the executive. As well as stack the Supreme Court when vacancies occur. Lots of finger pointing and little action for the voters.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506654#Comment_118506654

There is only so long the "of the right" line works.

Bidens most pressing problems now are among Democratic voters and activists.

Only so long "but Trump".

Bidens presidency is in big trouble.

Like Trump, an inability to shut up is making it worse.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118527095#Comment_118527095

These groupings within parties probably has merit. But when the Senate vote has been called, the GOP tends to vote against Biden endorsed House bills in lock-step fashion. Similar to Obama’s 2nd term. The Dems are generally the same except for 2 media spotlight grasping D-Senators that hope for Independents and GOP crossovers.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118527151#Comment_118527151

"He's not giving any press conferences" has changed to "he's talking too much".

You can wishcast all you want.

Statements like "he's in big trouble" need to be backed up by facts, or else they're just opinions.. and you know what they say about opinions

arthursway

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118527265#Comment_118527265

Without getting into a spit spat with you because as you say opinions don't mean much and all we have to judge on really is the approval ratings from unbiased sources like five thirty-eight.

You can say Biden is doing a wonderful job and I can say he's doing a terrible job and we will get nowhere.

The polls show for all to see that his approval has dropped significantly and is down among independents and very suprsingly down heavily in the under 30's demograph. Most Americans are not confident in the way the country is going.

His presidency is in a tender area with midterms coming up the democrats need to be in a healthier place.

Anything can happen in the 3 years ahead and he could end up being the best president in modern history but as of now this is not the case and his sharp approval decline in his first year is concerning since he has already passed his major pieces of legislation with no change in approval.

He entered his presidency as the most popular president of all time with the most votes in history and has seen that popularity slide away over his first year and needs to regain some faith of the people beyond his partisan base.

So you ask other posters for proof Biden is in murky waters when I think it is indeed you that needs to construct a post beyond a simple twitter link dump that Biden is doing the great job you keep alluding to.

As it is you that is going against the grain of the beliefs of the USA population with your beliefs and are in the minority, so please prove to us how Biden is setting the world alight and doing just dandy.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118527265#Comment_118527265

🙂

What press conferences are you on about. Joe's problem is saying stupid things and making those stupid things the news story.

His polling is fairly poor, across polls and varying media ones.

The polls show his support in his own party base, among black people, college educated whites, women all substantially down. The key demographics for his party.

Look at the massive majority who think that country is on the wrong track, who think his priorities are wrong.

I'm not sure why you are pretending otherwise or how you think it benefits Biden or the Democrats.

Stridently anti Trump media like MSNBC and CNN have polls on this and talk about it but you know better.

Weren't you a hyper Trump supporter in the last Presidency?

Cody montana

President Biden, asked by Fox's Peter Doocy whether inflation will be a political liability in the midterms, is heard on a hot mic responding, "No, that's a great asset – more inflation. What a stupid son of a bitch."

lol

Faugheen

Did Doocy really ask that?

It's a stupid remark for Biden to make but what kind of a question is that?

Cody montana

^ I seem to be unable to quote anything.

Yeah, video is on Twitter.

Let the pearl clutching commence.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118528444#Comment_118528444

What is wrong with American presidents?

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118528489#Comment_118528489

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1485739301685972992?t=vScbRd74RkK-KP81Cyty7g&s=19

Despite saying what most of America are thinking, biden should apologize. It's not appropriate and it shouldn't happen.

hotmail.com

A nice deflection from his "minor incursion" gaffe.

Attack the media when under pressure.

The American tradition.

Pussyhands

Joe was vice when his pres was coming out with this. lol

Aged like milk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=e7PvoI6gvQs

arthursway

A reasonable and relevant question by Doocy considering recent polls show 69% of Americans are concerned about inflation.

I don't think anyone or Doocy will be too bothered, If anything it's nice to see a bit of personality from Bland Biden for a change.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1485800973104599040?t=Lvjm42xLxmWBhWKx5JzD8w&s=19

Spot on

(Even though Doocy is a dumb son of a b1tch)

arthursway

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529091#Comment_118529091

Doocy is smart enough to have the President apologising to him and his name mentioned around the world.

Far from Dumb my friend, and he certainly won't be paying for any drinks this weekend with the co workers.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529093#Comment_118529093

Ahahaha. Yeah, that makes him "not dumb".

Not the first time it happened either..

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1485757174974324742?t=Ta_5XQddSvMJHnQtbuFsAw&s=19

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118528585#Comment_118528585

It was foolish to say it out loud, but he’s not wrong. What a stupid question.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529128#Comment_118529128

Absolutely ridiculous question, absolutely what everyone was thinking, an absolute idiot of a "reporter" but still not appropriate to say and absolutely appropriate to apologize.

Dr. Bre

Joe Trump

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529206#Comment_118529206

Petal clutching in full flow…..as predicted.

Pussyhands

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0125/1275688-biden-us/

Oh Joe! I wonder will the media be playing it over and over again all day making a big deal out of it like they would with Trump?

Will RTE get Brian O'Donovan to give us a recap of "this extraordinary behaviour"?

C'mon Joe, you need to fire yourself.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/20/biden-i-will-fire-you-on-the-spot-for-disrespect-to-others/

“I’m not joking when I say this: If you’re ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect or talk down to someone, I promise you, I will fire you on the spot — on the spot. No ifs ands or buts,” Biden told the staffers, talking to a large

video screen

Oh isn't it funny that if Trump said this he'd be called a rude person who doesn't show respect. But when it's Biden, it's just a "gaffe".

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529206#Comment_118529206

Yes.

Saying something that everyone is thinking but not knowing the microphone is on, constitutes a "worrying streak".

Get over yourself

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118529226#Comment_118529226

"if Trump said this he'd be called a rude person who doesn't show respect. But when it's Biden, it's just a "gaffe"

Trump said much worse and never apologized.

Learn to differentiate. It's an essential life skill.