Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Lundstram

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Those other countries have realised the importance of the next generation.

Ireland, unfortunately, is a PC dystopia. Norma has no choice really. She would be brought before a kangaroo court if she opened schools.

It’s better to screw over the tomorrow of the future generations than be labelled a granny killer today.

I agree with her that schools should be open but her communication is just downright dreadful. Who is this woman? Never heard of her until she got this brief. She definitely has connections somewhere.

The Facebook mammies xxx get their way yet again. "scools arent safe"..

Elessar

Lundstram wrote: »

Talk of schools for special needs students now not reopening. The union has stuck their nose in again and demanded keeping them closed. We have the worst minister of education I've ever seen afraid of her life of doing more damage than she has already done so we now have a situation of the government bowing to the union. Incredible stuff when you think about it.

Schools still open in the UK, France, Germany etc..

What a country.

Schools are closed in U.K., Germany, Austria, Denmark and the Netherlands.

Lundstram

Elessar wrote: »

Schools are closed in U.K., Germany, Austria, Denmark and the Netherlands.

`Read my post properly and come back to me, note the first seven words in the post. Good man.

Penfailed

Lundstram wrote: »

Talk of schools for special needs students now not reopening. The union has stuck their nose in again and demanded keeping them closed. We have the worst minister of education I've ever seen afraid of her life of doing more damage than she has already done so we now have a situation of the government bowing to the union. Incredible stuff when you think about it.

Schools still open in the UK, France, Germany etc..

What a country.

Schools still closed in the north, Scotland, Netherlands, etc. Fair play to the unions for sticking up for the welfare of the teachers.

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

Schools still closed in the north, Scotland, Netherlands, etc. Fair play to the unions for sticking up for the welfare of the teachers.

About time.

All in honour of the hundreds of teachers who are no longer with us after returning to school in September

Lundstram

Penfailed wrote: »

Schools still closed in the north, Scotland, Netherlands, etc. Fair play to the unions for sticking up for the welfare of the teachers.

Learn to read. My post related to schools for special needs students. They are open in the UK, France, Germany etc.

Can't believe I have to spell this out for you.

emeldc

Lundstram wrote: »

Learn to read. My post related to schools for special needs students. They are open in the UK, France, Germany etc.

Can't believe I have to spell this out for you.

There’s really no need to get so thick about it. I read your post not as you intended either. Maybe learn to put your sentences and paragraphs together properly

Penfailed

Lundstram wrote: »

Learn to read. My post related to schools for special needs students. They are open in the UK, France, Germany etc.

Can't believe I have to spell this out for you.

The first part of your post referred to 'special schools', the second part of your post in a completely separate paragraph referred to 'schools'. Can you see where the confusion would arise? Rather than a smart arse, 'learn to read' comment, maybe you should reread what you've typed to ensure clarity. It's obvious that I'm not the only one to pick up what you've typed in the way that I did.

FintanMcluskey

Lundstram wrote: »

Learn to read.
Can't believe I have to spell this out for you.

Ironically now that schools are shut there is nowhere to learn

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

About time.

All in honour of the hundreds of teachers who are no longer with us after returning to school in September

Yeah. I expect no better from you at this stage. It's not about the zero teachers that have passed, it's about transmission of the virus. The cases rose dramatically in September with the return of children to school. Coincidental?

fin12

Do people think concerts will go ahead this year? Any point in buying tickets?

Kunta Kinte

fin12 wrote: »

Do people think concerts will go ahead this year? Any point in buying tickets?

Ask your buddy Van.

uli84

As for schools in England- in theory they are closed but anyone who can come up with a letter from work can pretty much send their kids. My friend over there sends her 2 kids 3 days a week no problem (if she was working as “essential” it would be 5)

FintanMcluskey

uli84 wrote: »

As for schools in England- in theory they are closed but anyone who can come up with a letter from work can pretty much send their kids. My friend over there sends her 2 kids 3 days a week no problem (if she was working as “essential” it would be 5)

Yeah. Some still struggle to admit that Ireland is, and has been for month’s, a suppressed outlier among its neighbours.

Cerveza

We will be in the hundreds with cases after the weekend, fair play to the government and nephet and especially Tony Houlihan. Front line workers.

Spanish Eyes

Feel bad for those with special needs kids.. There is one in my family, but the parents cope best they can and weigh it all up including risk assessment re bussing to and fro as well as the socialisation aspect.

They could drive the child to school and pick up for sure, before anyone asks me, but they are keeping child at home for now. I realise not all families can do this, but they have cut hours in employment to make it work for a few weeks.

It is difficult, and I am not making any judgements.

showpony1

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no chance Holohan projecting "concern" over a handful of cases last July will go over this summer, a harassed Irish public will demand his head on a pike (figure of speech, go ahead and report me) and rightly so. Contextually speaking, with the vaccines having reached all of the elderly & vulnerable at that stage it will be time to mute Holohan's mic and let us get on with our lives. I'm not hitting the pause button for that mope after April.

I don't get posts like this (and there are many of them) - What do you mean you won't be doing this or that after a set time frame you decided upon yourself? Tony(and government) will control whether anything is open or where you can go freely.

I could easily see Tony saying when cases are way down again "we can't let our guard down now after all our hard work and we have the Vaccine". It's as if people haven't seen the routine for the last year.

FintanMcluskey

showpony1 wrote: »

I don't get posts like this (and there are many of them) - What do you mean you won't be doing this or that after a set time frame you decided upon yourself? Tony(and government) will control whether anything is open or where you can go freely.

I could easily see Tony saying when cases are way down again "we can't let our guard down now after all our hard work and we have the Vaccine". It's as if people haven't seen the routine for the last year.

Thats a fair point.

The powers that be in NPHET will never actually advise government to reopen next Summer.

So unfortunately it’s all abroad to taste normality in 2021 if one wants it

Idbatterim

Lads the vaccine is being rolled out, it's been handled horrendously, the only way it was ever going to be handled here. Moron spineless coward politicians are to blame, they will be renamed of ot and dealing with the failure for years to come introducing budget cuts etc. So set back, relax and be content o the knowledgeable that they will pay the price for it!

Newuser2

Idbatterim wrote: »

Lads the vaccine is being rolled out, it's been handled horrendously, the only way it was ever going to be handled here. Moron spineless coward politicians are to blame, they will be renamed of ot and dealing with the failure for years to come introducing budget cuts etc. So set back, relax and be content o the knowledgeable that they will pay the price for it!

We're slow organizationally

We'll get it done with the GPs and pharmacists, sure we do it every year with flu vaccines

dalyboy

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Feel bad for those with special needs kids.. There is one in my family, but the parents cope best they can and weigh it all up including risk assessment re bussing to and fro as well as the socialisation aspect.

They could drive the child to school and pick up for sure, before anyone asks me, but they are keeping child at home for now. I realise not all families can do this, but they have cut hours in employment to make it work for a few weeks.

It is difficult, and I am not making any judgements.

These restrictions are having a very uneven (NOT an “in it together”) impact on some people’s lives.

I’ve a close friend who has a son with special needs. The level of preparation that my friend needs to enact to ensure his son is mentally capable of just going back to school would make the hair on the back of your neck stand.

It takes days of art work presentations and gearing him up. He gets excited to go back to his school routine and then BAM . The rug is pulled on the entire family but especially this child who ends up severely disturbed , aggressive , scared and confused.

Empathy seems to be out the window for all these genuine heroes (my mate and parents like him) , not only has this occurred once , no , it’s happened twice in 2 weeks. But hey. As the sound bite on the radio says. .... we are all in it together.

Cerveza

Cerveza wrote: »

We will be in the hundreds with cases after the weekend, fair play to the government and nephet and especially Tony Houlihan. Front line workers.

2500+ deaths in Europe’s youngest population.
Longest and harshest lockdown in Europe.
460000 collecting PUP.

No fair plays from me. It’s been an utter failure and continues to be.

GazzaL

dalyboy wrote: »

These restrictions are having a very uneven (NOT an “in it together”) impact on some people’s lives.

I’ve a close friend who has a son with special needs. The level of preparation that my friend needs to enact to ensure his son is mentally capable of just going back to school would make the hair on the back of your neck stand.

It takes days of art work presentations and gearing him up. He gets excited to go back to his school routine and then BAM . The rug is pulled on the entire family but especially this child who ends up severely disturbed , aggressive , scared and confused.

Empathy seems to be out the window for all these genuine heroes (my mate and parents like him) , not only has this occurred once , no , it’s happened twice in 2 weeks. But hey. As the sound bite on the radio says. .... we are all in it together.

I know some SNAs are disgusted by the actions of the unions. They would prefer to be in school because they love their jobs and remote teaching just doesn't cut it. It's frightening the impact it has on the kids. It's a disgrace, but the lives of people with special needs aren't important in the eyes of NPHET.

SafeSurfer

I was speaking to someone high up in the UK government who said UK is anticipating this lockdown lasting until September.

I see no reason why Ireland will be any different.

Penfailed

GazzaL wrote: »

I know some SNAs are disgusted by the actions of the unions. They would prefer to be in school because they love their jobs and remote teaching just doesn't cut it. It's frightening the impact it has on the kids. It's a disgrace, but the lives of people with special needs aren't important in the eyes of NPHET.

I know some SETs are happy with the actions of the unions. They would prefer to be home because they've got children of their own and they've spent countless hours organising zoom sessions and emailing and phoning parents to have everything in place. How you've managed to blame NPHET for this is just baffling.

JRant

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Feel bad for those with special needs kids.. There is one in my family, but the parents cope best they can and weigh it all up including risk assessment re bussing to and fro as well as the socialisation aspect.

They could drive the child to school and pick up for sure, before anyone asks me, but they are keeping child at home for now. I realise not all families can do this, but they have cut hours in employment to make it work for a few weeks.

It is difficult, and I am not making any judgements.

The major problem for a lot of families like that is they have no idea when this is going to end. Some may have made plans for returning on Thursday only to have that scuttled by the unions and a weak a dishwater minister. Nobody knows when these schools, or and schools, will reopen.

Yet again, children have been completely let down by this government with not a second thought given to them.

JRant

Penfailed wrote: »

I know some SETs are happy with the actions of the unions. They would prefer to be home because they've got children of their own and they've spent countless hours organising zoom sessions and emailing and phoning parents to have everything in place. How you've managed to blame NPHET for this is just baffling.

With general schools and creche's being closed it's a no brainier for them to want to stay home.

caddy16

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I was speaking to someone high up in the UK government who said UK is anticipating this lockdown lasting until September.

I see no reason why Ireland will be any different.

Uncle Borris???

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

I know some SETs are happy with the actions of the unions. They would prefer to be home because they've got children of their own and they've spent countless hours organising zoom sessions and emailing and phoning parents to have everything in place. How you've managed to blame NPHET for this is just baffling.

There are likely lots of nurses, doctors, drivers, cleaners, factory workers, supermarket staff etc etc who have children of their own and would have no problem organising zoom calls to do their jobs, if it were possible. For kids with the likes of autism especially, zoom calls are likely worse than useless. The problem is often engaging these kids on a one to one basis. Shifting them to a situation where instead of personal contact, you are now engaging them on a screen may well be counterproductive

Don't Chute!

Penfailed wrote: »

Schools still closed in the north, Scotland, Netherlands, etc. Fair play to the unions for sticking up for the welfare of the teachers.

No doubt the teachers will be putting themselves forward to make up the time lost during the summer because as we know it’s all about the childereden with them. Seriously was your post meant as a joke?