Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

Locotastic

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

But the teachers are in, will only take the children for an hour. No explanation and from what I know it is the same everywhere

Sorry that's what she was told, everywhere is only doing an hour

|No mention of staff shortages etc

Reduced capacity means other children who aren't in school on that day also need to have contact too.

The schools have been left to sort the logistics while the government can say they are providing special needs education and therefore can not be sued.

jimmytwotimes 2013

https://twitter.com/emma_okelly/status/1360559058713993217?s=19

Str8outtaWuhan

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/emma_okelly/status/1360559058713993217?s=19

H1's for everybody!!!!

byhookorbycrook

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

My friend has a child with autism. He has been so upset because of the school closing, really put him back and he was doing so well before.

I was shocked when I called this week saying it was great he was going back to school. She was in tears, an hour. A hour each day is all they are allowing him back in for,.

Maybe someone on here who is a teacher could explain the reason behind this because I am baffled? Im not trying to start a fight or anything, just wondering how they came up with this.

Does he attend an autism class or special school? If he’s in a mainstream class/ school he won’t be going back at present . He will continue to be taught remotely . The hour you are talking about is probably the 20 hr in -home provision .

deiseindublin

@CrazyFather1 - sorry to hear your child is upset with the whole situation. 1 hour a day doesn't sound a lot but nobody here can answer for the school. Did you ask the school why this was the case? If not, you should.

Every school is in a different situation with teachers, SNAs, sick leave, buses, number of children etc.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

H1's for everybody!!!!

The grade inflation will be bad alright.

I got caught being honest last year, won't be caught this time l, don't see why my students should suffer when everyone else taking p1ss.

Edit: Emma O''Kelly worth following on twitter today, she has a lot of info in proposed assessment for LC.

Locotastic

8th of March looks like it will be a good time for schools to open, 6 weeks post peak.

The last cohort will probably have to wait until after Easter holidays.

Why they don't roll those 2 weeks for easter to run straight after midterm and then open back up on the 8th of March for everyone.

Sammy2012

Locotastic wrote: »

8th of March looks like it will be a good time for schools to open, 6 weeks post peak.

The last cohort will probably have to wait until after Easter holidays.

Why they don't roll those 2 weeks for easter to run straight after midterm and then open back up on the 8th of March for everyone.

They should have used the first 3 days of Easter to pull back the 3 days in January. But they didn't announce that in January so I guess it's not happening.

The last term is a long term. We have 11 weeks with no break. If they were to reopen the 8th and run to the end of June it would be 16 weeks with no break. I don't know if your a teacher but it's way too long on kids with no break. I teach 1st and 2nd class and they are wrecked by the end of the first 8 weeks in term one and we'll ready for their midterm. The last term this year is going to be so different for them also. No school tours, sport days, adventure days to look forward to. It will be inside in the classroom for most of it. Young kids are not able for that.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

Why they don't roll those 2 weeks for easter to run straight after midterm and then open back up on the 8th of March for everyone.

Think the return is staggered so they can watch it's impact on numbers. If everyone goes back together and it goes wrong, you might have a bigger problem on your hands

Necro

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km79

http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1360642447982927881

Not great it must be said

Locotastic

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1360642447982927881

Not great it must be said

Much better than we were a month ago.

But still, given that we've been in level 5 since just after Christmas, the numbers are not great and not improving as quickly as hoped.

ICU numbers are stubbornly high, won't see them drastically improve really for another fortnight.

It seems endless....progress is so slow, one step forward two steps back and we haven't a hope of restrictions going away any time soon.

Seeing improved figures bounce back up to over 1k again is infuriating, frustrating, depressing and hopeless all in one go. I find myself thinking how the hell are so many people still contracting covid.

I know people are still going out working etc, I'm one of them, but I just find it unbelievable at this stage.

am_zarathustra

It's very confusing, most people I know are abiding by the rules and seeing barely anyone. I know no one in my immediate family and only one friend (kid in creche with health care workers and brought it home) who's had it. If can't be all front line workers contracting it, so many would have gotten it first time round and would have some immunity. I can't understand how so many people are getting it every single day! Is there just massive pockets that are completely ignoring advice

Sanjuro

am_zarathustra wrote: »

It's very confusing, most people I know are abiding by the rules and seeing barely anyone. I know no one in my immediate family and only one friend (kid in creche with health care workers and brought it home) who's had it. If can't be all front line workers contracting it, so many would have gotten it first time round and would have some immunity. I can't understand how so many people are getting it every single day! Is there just massive pockets that are completely ignoring advice

Impossible to tell if we're not told where the cases are coming from.

Midnight Sundance

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1360642447982927881

Not great it must be said

I'm not sure If I can see schools opening in a couple of weeks time with these numbers. Theres no sign of them coming down n start of march is not far away. I thibk easter is more realistic now?!

khalessi

Midnight Sundance wrote: »

I'm not sure If I can see schools opening in a couple of weeks time with these numbers. Theres no sign of them coming down n start of march is not far away. I thibk easter is more realistic now?!

NPHET still think cases are too high and Prof Nolan reckons we are around 6 weeks away from 100 cases a day.

Its gonna be a long road

Millem

Midnight Sundance wrote: »

I'm not sure If I can see schools opening in a couple of weeks time with these numbers. Theres no sign of them coming down n start of march is not far away. I thibk easter is more realistic now?!

I agree.

Locotastic

am_zarathustra wrote: »

It's very confusing, most people I know are abiding by the rules and seeing barely anyone. I know no one in my immediate family and only one friend (kid in creche with health care workers and brought it home) who's had it. If can't be all front line workers contracting it, so many would have gotten it first time round and would have some immunity. I can't understand how so many people are getting it every single day! Is there just massive pockets that are completely ignoring advice

I'm thinking the same, it's mind boggling altogether. How are over 1k people still getting this (or should I say testing positive for it) every bloody day?

Locotastic

khalessi wrote: »

NPHET still think cases are too high and Prof Nolan reckons we are around 6 weeks away from 100 cases a day.

Its gonna be a long road

And then we'll open back up for a couple of weeks again and cases will shoot back up. It seems to be relentless!

Considering several hundred thousand people should have some level of immunity now between being infected or vaccinated how is it still so rampant?

Unless there is an issue with the pcr test after all, a third of hospitalisations at peak were from people who actually caught it while in hospital for something else, so not ill with Covid when they were admitted.

I don't know, we just seem to be getting nowhere.

Sammy2012

Locotastic wrote: »

I'm thinking the same, it's mind boggling altogether. How are over 1k people still getting this (or should I say testing positive for it) every bloody day?

A lot of people are abiding by the restrictions but a lot of people are not. I know of several people who are going around as if nothing is wrong. I have some colleagues who totally take the **** with the rules. These are people who we would have to share a school building with in a few weeks. And they not in their early 20s either. But the rules don't apply to them. I have extended family members who are carrying on the same.

I haven't been in the company of any friends since October! And thankfully we are all well. But I'm only one person so if I know of 5 or 6 people carrying on like that I'm sure there's plenty of others who do too.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

I'm thinking the same, it's mind boggling altogether. How are over 1k people still getting this (or should I say testing positive for it) every bloody day?

New varients are more contagious, you could get it by going to the shop

wirelessdude01

A lot of people are ignoring what I consider to be the basics. We went out to do our weekly shop today. People just ignoring the electronic entrance signs at both Aldi and Teaco. People walking in and ignoring the hand and trolley sanitising stations that are provided. Personal space while shopping seems to be something that people willfully think doesn't apply in shops, people reaching around /under/over you to get at the shelf rather than wait the 2 seconds it takes for you to get the item and move on. While queuing for the tills we had to ask the people behind would they mind giving the 2m gap as indicated by the markings on the ground.

People have become complacent. We arrive home then and can barely get into our own drive such is the amount of cars visiting one of the neighbours.

These are some of the reasons why we aren't in school, why the leaving cert situation is where it is. Too many people think it doesn't apply to them and that by ignoring the restrictions they are giving two fingers to the 'man'. That they can't and won't be told what to do or how to behave.

jrosen

There are lots of people abiding too the guidelines but there are equal amounts not. My local tesco was rammed today. Lots of families. Lots of people who were wearing visors and no makes, lots of people with masks under their nose. Last food shop the women in front of me removed her mask to blow her nose and proceeded to answer her phone.
Ive heard of friends meeting in parks well outside their 5km. Other visiting family because they miss them and just this evening saw a couple leaving out estate all dolled up with a card and bottle of wine on their way to someones house.

When you read some of the comments on line its jaw dropping the amount of people who seem to think the rules dont apply. I also think there are people who dont see their behavior on the larger scale. They think oh its just me nipping to my mums whats the harm.

Sammy2012

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

A lot of people are ignoring what I consider to be the basics. We went out to do our weekly shop today. People just ignoring the electronic entrance signs at both Aldi and Teaco. People walking in and ignoring the hand and trolley sanitising stations that are provided. Personal space while shopping seems to be something that people willfully think doesn't apply in shops, people reaching around /under/over you to get at the shelf rather than wait the 2 seconds it takes for you to get the item and move on. While queuing for the tills we had to ask the people behind would they mind giving the 2m gap as indicated by the markings on the ground.

People have become complacent. We arrive home then and can barely get into our own drive such is the amount of cars visiting one of the neighbours.

These are some of the reasons why we aren't in school, why the leaving cert situation is where it is. Too many people think it doesn't apply to them and that by ignoring the restrictions they are giving two fingers to the 'man'. That they can't and won't be told what to do or how to behave.

Fully agree with you wirelessdude. Others just don't think the rules apply to them. On the days when I'm feeling stressed or fed up you'd have to wonder whats the point when others just are continuing on as normal. One person I know has people over drinking 3 nights at the weekend. They wouldn't actually have gone anywhere pre covid. It's their support bubble apparently. I'd love to have a support bubble like that but I know that's not what the support bubble is for!

Str8outtaWuhan

To put it into perspective, the UK's incidence rate is now lower than ours per 100'000 pop. They have 5 times as many with a first jab and they are thinking of March reopening, THINKING. We will be very lucky to have full reopening in April.

teachinggal123

Is there some reason why you guys are still physically going to shops?

Genuine question - why not online grocery/food shopping?

Tpcl20

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Is there some reason why you guys are still physically going to shops?

Genuine question - why not online grocery/food shopping?

It's absolutely bizarre to me. I do it online in 15 minutes each week and spend the hour I save going out for some bonus fresh air.

Like, you're taking a calculated risk going inside anywhere now with the increased potency of the strains.

If cases don't get lower, schools won't be able to fully reopen.

km79

Tpcl20 wrote: »

It's absolutely bizarre to me. I do it online in 15 minutes each week and spend the hour I save going out for some bonus fresh air.

Like, you're taking a calculated risk going inside anywhere now with the increased potency of the strains.

If cases don't get lower, schools won't be able to fully reopen.

Not everyone has the luxury of online deliveries to rural areas sadly
That’s why we still have to risk the weekly shop

Str8outtaWuhan

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Is there some reason why you guys are still physically going to shops?

Genuine question - why not online grocery/food shopping?

Because the food you get via home delivery has been exposed to at least 3 people; the shelf stacker, the picker and the delivery guy. If I go shop I eliminate 2 of them from the chain.

jimmytwotimes 2013

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Is there some reason why you guys are still physically going to shops?

Genuine question - why not online grocery/food shopping?

Urban/Rural