Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

billy_beckham

Stateofyou wrote: »

It's ALL new as a matter of fact, and as a direct result of the new strains. You seem painfully uniformed and blasé.

Either way, pretty far off the school topic now.

Dead right, lets get back on topic. Great news today, another ~1300 cases.. Guy on Matt Cooper saying that positivity rate for last 7 days down to 7%. Had been as high as 24%.

Gradual return imminent I'd imagine.....Starting with special schools next week...

wirelessdude01

billy_beckham wrote: »

Dead right, lets get back on topic. Great news today, another ~1300 cases.. Guy on Matt Cooper saying that positivity rate for last 7 days down to 7%. Had been as high as 24%.

Gradual return imminent I'd imagine.....Starting with special schools next week...

Word I have today, is that tomorrows statement will have zero target dates in it.

Stateofyou

billy_beckham wrote: »

Dead right, lets get back on topic. Great news today, another ~1300 cases.. Guy on Matt Cooper saying that positivity rate for last 7 days down to 7%. Had been as high as 24%.

Gradual return imminent I'd imagine.....Starting with special schools next week...

The numbers are better today, but I will point out they're always lower on Monday after the weekend. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

mirrorwall14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Word I have today, is that tomorrows statement will have zero target dates in it.

It’s frustrating now to have dates of some kind. I really hope there’s some actual clarity on the structures for exams

billy_beckham

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Word I have today, is that tomorrows statement will have zero target dates in it.

Stateofyou wrote: »

The numbers are better today, but I will point out they're always lower on Monday after the weekend. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Time will tell....

Van.Bosch

Stateofyou wrote: »

The numbers are better today, but I will point out they're always lower on Monday after the weekend. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

That’s ridiculous, compare yesterday to last Sunday, today to last Monday. 7 day average today to last week 7 day average, 14 day incidence per 100,000 today v last Week.

All down massively.

Locotastic

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1191847/

Parents 'completely in limbo' over reopening of schools.

The communication has been absolutely dire, and dropping the 'won't be fully open by St Patrick's day' like MM did without any further explanation just causes huge amounts of stress.

Theboinkmaster

Locotastic wrote: »

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1191847/

Parents 'completely in limbo' over reopening of schools.

The communication has been absolutely dire, and dropping the 'won't be fully open by St Patrick's day' like MM did without any further explanation just causes huge amounts of stress.

It was a ridiculous statement - I think he’s playing politics

mirrorwall14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Excluding the obvious people looking for a reaction, name one of the regular contributors on here who are happy for schools to not open for ages?

Aside: Couldn’t PM you as no space

What a mess of a statement

Locotastic

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

It was a ridiculous statement - I think he’s playing politics

I hope that's all it is, he shouldn't be saying anything unless he can give clear details.

Crushing news to a lot of people who were really hoping it wasn't going to go on that long, myself included.

downthemiddle

Locotastic wrote: »

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1191847/

Parents 'completely in limbo' over reopening of schools.

The communication has been absolutely dire, and dropping the 'won't be fully open by St Patrick's day' like MM did without any further explanation just causes huge amounts of stress.

I'm going to let you into a little secret Gal. It is not only parents that are in limbo. Teachers, SNAs, secretaries, cleaners, bus escorts and drivers, BOMs and last but not least students are all equally in limbo and equally stressed.

billy_beckham

C__MC wrote: »

Huge smell of last spring off this, schooling could be pushed out to September me thinks

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Be careful, you'll be accused of a Freudian slip in a minute

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Excluding the obvious people looking for a reaction, name one of the regular contributors on here who are happy for schools to not open for ages?

You can scroll back and find loads....

Locotastic

downthemiddle wrote: »

I'm going to let you into a little secret Gal. It is not only parents that are in limbo. Teachers, SNAs, secretaries, cleaners, bus escorts and drivers, BOMs and last but not least students are all equally in limbo and equally stressed.

No secret, but the article is about parents and the parents council? Who are you calling gal?

History Queen

It astonishes me just how few people seem to understand the role and funtion of trade unions, this debate has really brought that to light.

Edit: not just on this thread, in society at large

C__MC

Micheal martin was giving dodgy signals Saturday, paddys day he said that could be easily after Easter if there was high enough cases still on the go.
You could see easily how the weeks could slip by and suddenly its April and not all students are back.

billy_beckham

C__MC wrote: »

Micheal martin was giving dodgy signals Saturday, paddys day he said that could be easily after Easter if there was high enough cases still on the go.
You could see easily how the weeks could slip by and suddenly its April and not all students are back.

ooh fingers crossed eh? :rolleyes:

jimmytwotimes 2013

billy_beckham wrote: »

ooh fingers crossed eh? :rolleyes:

*sighs*

C__MC

billy_beckham wrote: »

ooh fingers crossed eh? :rolleyes:

I hope the government can put a clear plan in place to get students back after mid term in both primary and secondary, they just don't instil me with confidence.

ruwithme

History Queen wrote: »

It astonishes me just how few people seem to understand the role and funtion of trade unions, this debate has really brought that to light.

Edit: not just on this thread, in society at large

Modern day teacher representative unions are not comparable to traditional blue collar worker unions.

am_zarathustra

People love a bit of conjectures and mixing up correlation and causations. They'd fail LC maths with the way they are interpreting data with no interest in bias and drawing conclusions with no caveats.

Hopefully we will be back the 22nd with LC but there are a hell of a lot of unknowns

History Queen

ruwithme wrote: »

Modern day teacher representative unions are not comparable to traditional blue collar worker unions.

I don't know what that has to do with the point I made?

Crocodile Booze

billy_beckham wrote: »

ooh fingers crossed eh? :rolleyes:

Oh give it up would ya.

No one wants schools closed for longer than they have to be but these are unchartered waters. Never seen before circumstances.

Nobody is enjoying this crap situation, and such childish projection does not help.

Ted_YNWA

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TTLF

Not sure why it decided to hit me like a train right now, but I feel a breakdown occurring inside me, so I'm gonna do a small rant to vent and ask some of my own questions.

I'm tired. I don't know why, but I feel like I have a headache everyday. My sleep has been as best as it can be, but it's harder than ever before. I can feel myself becoming slowly more unmotivated as time goes on. No clarifications and the leaks of "LC stuff will be announced tomorrow" really has my stomach in a knot right now. . I want to take a break from "the internet" and focus on family life and my work, but it's just too impossible with being stuck to my PC all day as is.
I'd love to change my routine, be more motivated and work harder, but I'm just starting at my screen everyday getting more work on top of more work on top of more work.

I used to enjoy doing homework mostly, It was nice to feel I accomplished something, but now even the smallest of work is starting to feel like a headache. I get it done, on time, I'm not slipping in my "grades" or classwork, I attend every class, but I just feel empty inside doing it. Silent classes all day, take notes down on my PC, chat to friends over Discord, do my assignments and stuff, all in the same region of my room.

I just feel so lazy and unproductive, despite working on things that are due. I haven't gotten around to much of any independent study, even if I do have some time because I just feel so tired and unwilling for no reason. If I was in school, I think I would be so much better, mostly everyone's in my boat here in LC, but that's no excuse to not feel upset inside personally.

I'm not sure what to do, some classes online teaching is going okay, others it isn't, will I have my orals? Do I try keep up with my oral work? I'm going over random things a little willy-nilly without a plan and I hate it. Sorry if this sounds like I'm complaining, but it's the worst feeling for me currently. I always anticipated these exams to be stressful, I just never anticipated THIS.

Is there anything I can do to try change my mindset? I'm getting all my classwork done, I would never ever let that be late, but I am finding it so tough to revise everything we've gone over. Now my Geography Field study is delayed again too.

Not to mention some of my teachers bless their souls, my maths teacher forgot to put up tonight's homework on classroom again, and I had to miss the class because I was getting blood tests done, we're going over "imaginary numbers" which is a chapter I really wish we didn't do in lockdown. My geography teacher forgot to put up the PowerPoint for coastal features again today, so I had to make my own notes from the book and I really wanted to read over the PP because it had some useful info.

My workload isn't too great either, not straining ofc, but it feels that way when you have little motivation, doing homework for 3-4 hours is enough to tire you out, and then you still need to study for some oral test the next day! :eek: I wouldn't have horrible issues with this, if we were in school, because the quality of teaching is 10x better and obviously it's harder to do things online remotely.

Some classes I'm getting very little work, like Irish. I don't think I've actually put any proper study into Irish for awhile, mainly because I'm stuck doing long business questions, writing out geography or trying to make my German oral notes as good as they can be so I don't fail the flipping thing :pac:.
I'm pretty sure my Irish teacher doesn't correct on weekends, he's young. I don't think I got back my Irish test we did last week yet, which sucks because I know I didn't do amazing in it. He gave us an option of closed or open book, I chose closed, but with all the work I was a bit overwhelmed and didn't get to achieve what I wanted that night.

I just want this time in my life to pass now, I shouldn't be subjected to this, it feels like pain. I want to study and retain information, I want to know if I should start studying for mock exams, It's just making me feel so, so tired.

/ end of rant.

Smacruairi

If its any consolation, after coming out of a board meeting, we are all the same. Parents reporting kids burned out, teachers are getting there. Parents wanted the live timetable and this is what they get. Now we are looking into finishing classes early, longer lunch etc.

I wish parents trusted school management to do the right thing more.

TTLF

Smacruairi wrote: »

If its any consolation, after coming out of a board meeting, we are all the same. Parents reporting kids burned out, teachers are getting there. Parents wanted the live timetable and this is what they get. Now we are looking into finishing classes early, longer lunch etc.

I wish parents trusted school management to do the right thing more.

Thankfully I do have more breaks during the school day, but it's just my motivation and overall appliance to doing all the work that's what I'm struggling with. School classes itself, while boring, don't burn me out, but the day itself and how it feels like it's just 1 big day over a multitude of weeks with no break of the cycle. Just me, my room and the occasional walk, but even with those I feel guilty I'm wasting time going on a random walk than working, even if it is good mentally.

wirelessdude01

Smacruairi wrote: »

If its any consolation, after coming out of a board meeting, we are all the same. Parents reporting kids burned out, teachers are getting there. Parents wanted the live timetable and this is what they get. Now we are looking into finishing classes early, longer lunch etc.

I wish parents trusted school management to do the right thing more.

Same here. I've a few looking for even more live work, others think I'm doing too much and thus want less live and then the vast majority think it's perfect what I've put in place.

Ray Donovan

Smacruairi wrote: »

If its any consolation, after coming out of a board meeting, we are all the same. Parents reporting kids burned out, teachers are getting there. Parents wanted the live timetable and this is what they get. Now we are looking into finishing classes early, longer lunch etc.

I wish parents trusted school management to do the right thing more.

Ignore the parents for most part. They have all their singular agendas which may add up to a thousand different agendas.

You are the educational professionals, you should know best. I don’t walk into a solicitor’s office and tell him how to do his job.

Smacruairi

TTLF wrote: »

Thankfully I do have more breaks during the school day, but it's just my motivation and overall appliance to doing all the work that's what I'm struggling with. School classes itself, while boring, don't burn me out, but the day itself and how it feels like it's just 1 big day over a multitude of weeks with no break of the cycle. Just me, my room and the occasional walk, but even with those I feel guilty I'm wasting time going on a random walk than working, even if it is good mentally.

Yeah it's the lack of the fun stuff, the chat, the downtime and all those little teachable moments that arise from comments made in class.we are all feeling it, you're not alone.

It's also January so don't worry about it, this is always when leaving certs start to panic, you'll feel better after midterm. Seasonal, and a lack of vit d.

If in doubt, watch Cobra kai.

History Queen

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Ignore the parents for most part. They have all their singular agendas which may add up to a thousand different agendas.

You are the educational professionals, you should know best. I don’t walk into a solicitor’s office and tell him how to do his job.

I often wonder if other professionals get told how to do their jobs as much as teachers do? You only have to look online, both social and mainstream media to see the level of bile levelled at our profession.