Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

BonsaiKitten

TTLF wrote: »

Don't worry I will! My parents paid for my education and I'm not going to let them down, I have 2 older sisters to compete against

Chiming in to agree with the other poster! Don't want to sound patronising here but you really come across as such a lovely student, would love to know that everything works out well for you.

...Christ knows what thread number we'll be on by then.

rainbowtrout

Mrsmum wrote: »

My sil is a secondary teacher. Last year she said all kinds of negative things about predictive grades. But her daughter was in LC last year and got on brilliantly and sil then said she had been hasty in her attitude to predictive grades and that actually, as a system, it worked. Any secondary teachers here with kids in LC this year or last. Would love to know what they think.

Did your niece get what she wanted in college if she applied? I'm going to guess that she did and your sister in law might have had a very different opinion if she didn't.

Mrsmum

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Did your niece get what she wanted in college if she applied? I'm going to guess that she did and your sister in law might have had a very different opinion if she didn't.

She would indeed. My niece actually chose a very specific career path. She was always going to get more points than she needed for it under any system. But your point is valid of course.
Edit sorry don't know how I added the thumbs down. Didn't mean to.
2nd edit, based on what she got though, if medicine requires the highest points, she could have done medicine.

TTLF

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Chiming in to agree with the other poster! Don't want to sound patronising here but you really come across as such a lovely student, would love to know that everything works out well for you.

...Christ knows what thread number we'll be on by then.

I really hope it does honestly. I will say I haven't worked as hard as I am if I was in a school setting, Who has with no real routine? But I've kept up with my assignments and I'm doing them to the best I can to get high marks in them. (Rewrote my King Lear essay 3 times before I sent it in lol)

Seems to be working out for now, I got 93/100 in my recent History essay :eek:

billy_beckham

theballz wrote: »

Because it won’t be safe by then. How you think it would be amazes me.

Must get a loan of your crystal ball..

TTLF

Also wanted to mention, my health mentally in the last week has drastically improved, took a lovely walk today in the snow as it fell tonight here in Dublin, sometimes it's ok to just forget about the world and go to your happy place (mine being walking in falling snow like tonight) It made me feel super happy I am here today, and made me feel more motivated inside.

Here's a fun little image I got tonight to keep spirits up!

TTLF

TTLF wrote: »

Also wanted to mention, my health mentally in the last week has drastically improved, took a lovely walk today in the snow as it fell tonight here in Dublin, sometimes it's ok to just forget about the world and go to your happy place (mine being walking in falling snow like tonight) It made me feel super happy I am here today, and made me feel more motivated inside.

Here's a fun little image I got tonight to keep spirits up!

image didn't embed... here it is now

Newbie20

kowloonkev wrote: »

I think it's going a bit far questioning the character and integrity of the leaving cert year. They're basically going to miss one year in school of a two year course. If they take the exam they're at a huge disadvantage compared to last year's class. The level of online lessons varies hugely between schools, and those from less privileged schools are smart enough to realize that their father's won't have friends in the media to get results changed like the fee paying schools did last year.

Questioning their character and integrity? How did you manage to pick that up from what I said? I said every year ever would make the same call, it’s human nature.

wirelessdude01

She really has ZERO shame.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/the-battle-to-get-back-into-classrooms-foley-wants-teachers-prioritised-for-vaccines-but-taoiseach-warns-schools-wont-fully-reopen-before-st-patricks-day-40003623.html

I know for a fact that during negotiwhen it was brought up that she said it wasn't an option and that she wouldn't bring it to the relevant people. Not suddenly when the rug has been pulled from underneath her and it looks like she might be on slippery political ground, suddenly the minister thinks she should suggest it. ZERO SHAME.

mirrorwall14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

She really has ZERO shame.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/the-battle-to-get-back-into-classrooms-foley-wants-teachers-prioritised-for-vaccines-but-taoiseach-warns-schools-wont-fully-reopen-before-st-patricks-day-40003623.html

I know for a fact that during negotiwhen it was brought up that she said it wasn't an option and that she wouldn't bring it to the relevant people. Not suddenly when the rug has been pulled from underneath her and it looks like she might be on slippery political ground, suddenly the minister thinks she should suggest it. ZERO SHAME.

Didn’t she tell the Dáil it wasn’t happening?

Clouron

What way do you think they would phase reopening?

wirelessdude01

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Didn’t she tell the Dáil it wasn’t happening?

Wednesday she reiterated it again in the Dail/DCC or wherever they sit these days.

wirelessdude01

Clouron wrote: »

What way do you think they would phase reopening?

widely reported yesterday evening as
Special Schools/Classes,
Leaving Cert,
Full primary in one go,
Rest of secondary.

What a timeline for that actually looks like is anyones guess.

mirrorwall14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Wednesday she reiterated it again in the Dail/DCC or wherever they sit these days.

Well the row back is in full swing then

alroley

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

widely reported yesterday evening as
Special Schools/Classes,
Leaving Cert,
Full primary in one go,
Rest of secondary.

What a timeline for that actually looks like is anyones guess.

It won't be this.

Clouron

Thanks....I guess it's logical. They could break up primary into half, the younger ones in first?



quote="wirelessdude01;116027318"]widely reported yesterday evening as
Special Schools/Classes,
Leaving Cert,
Full primary in one go,
Rest of secondary.

What a timeline for that actually looks like is anyones guess.[/quote]

km79

To save anyone else having to read the last 6 pages of mainly teacher bashing scutter I’ll save ye the hassle.
Teachers need to don the green jersey, work their holidays and go on the PUP , teach online and in classroom at the same time and not be allowed to get vaccinated In line with other essential workers .
Think that covers it

billy_beckham

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

She really has ZERO shame.


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/the-battle-to-get-back-into-classrooms-foley-wants-teachers-prioritised-for-vaccines-but-taoiseach-warns-schools-wont-fully-reopen-before-st-patricks-day-40003623.html

I know for a fact that during negotiwhen it was brought up that she said it wasn't an option and that she wouldn't bring it to the relevant people. Not suddenly when the rug has been pulled from underneath her and it looks like she might be on slippery political ground, suddenly the minister thinks she should suggest it. ZERO SHAME.

Shock horror, during negotiations she kept a card up her sleeve. Article says she made enquiries in December about bumping teaching.. Hardly sudden

alroley

km79 wrote: »

To save anyone else having to read the last 6 pages of mainly teacher bashing scutter I’ll save ye the hassle.
Teachers need to don the green jersey, work their holidays and go on the PUP , teach online and in classroom at the same time and not be allowed to get vaccinated In line with other essential workers .
Think that covers it

Just lock them in the schools!

mirrorwall14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

widely reported yesterday evening as
Special Schools/Classes,
Leaving Cert,
Full primary in one go,
Rest of secondary.

What a timeline for that actually looks like is anyones guess.

It actually really should be youngest to oldest though I get the LC need. But ECCE, junior and senior infants in particular really cannot work independently at all and those ages are causing the worst problems for parents. Then the rest of primary. Then the LCs and start into secondary schools.

Having both primary and secondary school partially open would mean all staff at all levels all on the move without full groups in

But I do get why they want the LC back

khalessi

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

It actually really should be youngest to oldest though I get the LC need. But ECCE, junior and senior infants in particular really cannot work independently at all and those ages are causing the worst problems for parents. Then the rest of primary. Then the LCs and start into secondary schools.

Having both primary and secondary school partially open would mean all staff at all levels all on the move without full groups in

But I do get why they want the LC back

Well going by the guides for Special Needs we could end up with a lot of children back, more than just the children with an additional educational need.

deiseindublin

But HOW can you make a classroom safe for 30 adults/LCs with a teacher? Unless we're at least a month or 6 weeks from this?

km79

deiseindublin wrote: »

But HOW can you make a classroom safe for 30 adults/LCs with a teacher? Unless we're at least a month or 6 weeks from this?

Reading between the lines now on what they are saying on timelines it will be after mid term for all of it except maybe special schools /classes at primary level
I could be wrong though as History Queen said it has been hinted in TUI circles about LC return being imminent

wirelessdude01

alroley wrote: »

It won't be this.

What do you think it might be?

Honestly I think they might also leave 5th and 6th out for longer than thr likes of JI/SI. Know my 6th need minimal inout from home. Great group who just get on with it.

wirelessdude01

alroley wrote: »

Just lock them in the schools!

Remember when we were young and we all thought that teachers lived in school!!

DraftDodger

deiseindublin wrote: »

But HOW can you make a classroom safe for 30 adults/LCs with a teacher? Unless we're at least a month or 6 weeks from this?

Teachers will have to be vaccinated in able to make the environment safe. That's the bottom line. Children are less susceptible to the virus so they will be fine once distance is kept and masks are worn.

For a government who ran with the whole schools are our priority mantra putting teachers 11th on a list of priorities for vaccination was pretty stupid.

They didn't view teachers, SNA's school bus drivers etc.. as essential workers but yet made schools remaining open an essential priority. How thick can you get.

khalessi

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Remember when we were young and we all thought that teachers lived in school!!

I used to have a first class who thought I slept on the art paper and made a bed from them

Mrsmum

It feels to me like NF and the Government will be basically saying to teachers which do you want - go back after the mid term with LC classes, even with demands for safety not being looked at all and in that case, no predictive grades or don't go back until all safety issues are looked at but then accept predictive grades. Not worded like that but that being more or less it. And of course special needs schools and pupils back too.

km79

Mrsmum wrote: »

It feels to me like NF and the Government will be basically saying to teachers which do you want - go back after the mid term with LC classes, even with demands for safety not being looked at all and in that case, no predictive grades or don't go back until all safety issues are looked at but then accept predictive grades. Not worded like that but that being more or less it. And of course special needs schools and pupils back too.

Safety

khalessi

deiseindublin wrote: »

But HOW can you make a classroom safe for 30 adults/LCs with a teacher? Unless we're at least a month or 6 weeks from this?

Better PPE we need goggles not visors and N95 masks or FFP

CO2 monitors
Better ventiltion
Air purifiers for classrooms
Half in half out for better sding
Hire bulidings of necessary


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