Biofarm 2020

endainoz

I think it might be better to have a thread for bio farm if a good few of us are watching it. Just got an email saying the stream will be back shortly.....

alps

Milked just once today so I could sit through this afternoon...

It's been a marvelous weekend so far...Trump beat....Kerry beat...things couldn't be better..

endainoz

Back on now, Alan Savory should be fantastic.

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endainoz wrote: »

Back on now, Alan Savory should be fantastic.

It makes up missing the Christmas sermon this year.

endainoz

Say my name wrote: »

It makes up missing the Christmas sermon this year.

:pac::pac::pac:

He has that kind of a voice alright

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endainoz wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac:

He has that kind of a voice alright

When you get to his age and with that name. You can give any type of talk you like.

Dinzee Conlee

Say my name wrote: »

When you get to his age and with that name. You can give any type of talk you like.

Hard going, not sure what I was expecting... but...

endainoz

I think it's pretty inspiring stuff all the same.

alps

Hmmm....

Be interesting to do a buy in rating of this?

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Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Hard going, not sure what I was expecting... but...

I'd say the organisers were expecting a talk on climate change and ruminants.
But sure..
He's our Biofarms Sir David Attenborough.

*Darragh McCullough lost weight.

endainoz

Say my name wrote: »

I'd say the organisers were expecting a talk on climate change and ruminants.
But sure..
He's our Biofarms Sir David Attenborough.

*Darragh McCullough lost weight.

It's was funny earlier before the stream got cut off and Darragh got shut down pretty quickly when asking about the return from slurry innoculants.

alps

https://www.grass-fed-solutions.com/rational-grazing.html

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Oh be Jesus.

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Good man Colman.

Dinzee Conlee

That was very interesting now, well delivered...

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I may educate them on biochar.

endainoz

More technical difficulties, pity about the hiccups, it's been very interesting so far.

endainoz

Say my name wrote: »

I may educate them on biochar.

Ha, I was just thinking about your posts! Ear to the ground had covered the lads doing it in west Clare but Darragh must have forgotten about it.

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It's on the same theme.

There's a good YouTube channel just started up called ' In search of Soil.'

The first interview was with Dr Elaine Ingham.
Next was with Dr David Johnson of the composting fame.
Next was Kelpie Wilson of biochar fame.

https://youtu.be/xZv31JYKPUw

Dinzee Conlee

Everyone else "on hold" with some weird song playing?

I though Greg Judy was going for some kinda Conor McGregor style over-the-top entrance first with the song playing...

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Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Everyone else "on hold" with some weird song playing?

I though Greg Judy was going for some kinda Conor McGregor style over-the-top entrance first with the song playing...

It's looking like it ain't going to happen.

endainoz

Yeah it's been like that for a while now. The Neil young song about monsanto has some interesting lyrics alright, but I think I've heard it enough.

Just tuning in now, more technical issues I take it.

Pity they didn't get into the "pugging" but I have an idea that the root mass coupled with long grass on top, and move them often is the answer.

Oh, and no elephant cows.

Thought Greg Judy calling Darragh sir was hilarious.

Water John

Enjoyed today, Say My Name's Molasses and Biochar referenced.
I did a bastardised version of the mob grazing this year. Rotation of about 40+ days but grazed it down but not clean. Think Greg Judy's model suited his climate, retaining as much moisture as possible. Now half my grazing land would be long term organic, 23 years. Very interesting to see all the various plants in what is my permanent pasture and Meadow in Glas. I moved stock about every 4/5 days. When stock went onto new ground it wasn't the grass they ate first, it was Sorrel heads.
The other half of the ground has a ryegrass silage mix. Took some silage off it when it got ahead of the cattle. Thinking of reseeding in some way as the ground has very low root mass and can poach in rain. Just starting to learn.
Like the two lads will be organic ion Jan 1st 2021.

alps

Lack of rain definitely plays in a big way into the residuals left. More than once it was referenced that if you grazed tight, you would pay the penalty in moisture defecit. He was also doing an extra winter grazing than we would do....a similar 35 to 40 day light Autumn grazingsfollowed by a winter one going much tighter.

alps

And I'm not sure that Savory's reference to rotational grazing is an accurate description of ours..

He promoted rational grazing, but from what I can see, this is a more accurate description of what we do...only difference being the residuals..





Rational grazing is based on the four universal grazing laws developed in the 1950's by André Voisin (1903-1964):

First Law: The Law of Rest
In order for grass to achieve its maximum productivity, grass must be given time to recover between grazing intervals.

This rest period is essential to give the grass time to build sufficient root reserves capable of sustaining a vigorous spurt of growth
And this rest interval must give grass enough time to produce a "blaze of fast growth" before it is re-grazed.
Second Law: The Law of Occupation
The time spent inside any individual grazing slice should be so short that the animals do not regraze the same grass a second time before they move to the next paddock.

Third Law: The Law of Maximum Yields
We must help the cattle with the highest nutritional requirements to harvest the most quantity of the best quality grass possible.

Fourth Law: The Law of Regular Yields
If a cow is expected to produce milk and/or consistent weight gains, she should not spend more than 3 days grazing the same paddock. Milk production and weight gains will be maximized if cattle spend no more than one day in each paddock.

endainoz

Today should be interesting, I have Richard Perkins' Book 'making small farms work". It's a great reference guide type of a book. Hopefully the technical issues will be sorted this time.

endainoz

endainoz wrote: »

Today should be interesting, I have Richard Perkins' Book 'making small farms work". It's a great reference guide type of a book. Hopefully the technical issues will be sorted this time.

Have it on the shelf here beside me. Anyone not wanting to part with €50 for biofarm would want to be sitting down if they look to buy this book

Oops, it's "Regenerative Agriculture" I have.

EvanFahy

Would you recommend it from what you've seen so far?

Water John

Yes the conf is excellent.

Water John

1,000 participants is mighty. That reaches a far wider audience than a traditional conf. It's an ill wind...

The presentation i've been waiting for!

Is there a link to this? Thx

endainoz

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Is there a link to this? Thx

https://nots.ie/courses/biofarm-2020-online/

Tickets 50 euro, well worth it imo, all presentations will be available on demand from next week for ticket holders.

They email you a live link and password for each day once you buy your ticket.

Panch18

does it take long for the email with the link and password to come through?

I missed yesterday but paid the 50 quid a couple of hours ago - still no email, but got my email receipt of payment

Does it take a while?

Panch18

Panch18 wrote: »

does it take long for the email with the link and password to come through?

I missed yesterday but paid the 50 quid a couple of hours ago - still no email, but got my email receipt of payment

Does it take a while?

I'd call one of these numbers

BioFarm Helpline 1 – 0871893739

BioFarm Helpline 2 – 0873966197

BioFarm Helpline 3 – 0858555277

endainoz

Panch18 wrote: »

does it take long for the email with the link and password to come through?

I missed yesterday but paid the 50 quid a couple of hours ago - still no email, but got my email receipt of payment

Does it take a while?

Hmm not sure but they did leave a number to call if you have any issues, I'll pm you the numbers.

endainoz

endainoz wrote: »

Hmm not sure but they did leave a number to call if you have any issues, I'll pm you the numbers.

Never mind, herdquitter beat me to it!

endainoz

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Have it on the shelf here beside me. Anyone not wanting to part with €50 for biofarm would want to be sitting down if they look to buy this book

Oops, it's "Regenerative Agriculture" I have.

Ah yeah same book alright! So much information on each enterprise.

alps

Perkins (the market gardener)

Nearly all veg production is based on animal manure....if not it's based on fossil fuels..

Animals drive fertility systems..

Veg production is the least sustainable farm system..

Birdnuts

alps wrote: »

Perkins (the market gardener)

Nearly all veg production is based on animal manure....if not it's based on fossil fuels..

Animals drive fertility systems..

Veg production is the least sustainable farm system..

For shure it needs to be part of an integrated system - which of course traditional farming methods appreciated before big- agribusiness took over

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Bruno's a very knowledgeable and passionate man on compost.

I enjoyed that.

I wonder who asked the biochar question

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I wonder who asked the biochar question

No idea.

alps

What a passionate way to talk about shyte...

Panch18

Say my name wrote: »

Bruno's a very knowledgeable and passionate man on compost.

I enjoyed that.

I thought he was brilliant, kind of guy that could have had a full day to himself

Not as up to speed as yourself on biochar though!

Water John

So a good FYM has both nitrogen and carbon, you take it and potato pit it and some water as doing so. Does anything else need to be added?
10% soil +....biochar was mentioned.
All the speakers were excellent but esp liked Bruno Folloder, almost a philosopher.

I was surprised Follador hadn't heard of the Johnson-Su Bioreactor, perhaps he knows it under another name.

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Panch18 wrote: »

I thought he was brilliant, kind of guy that could have had a full day to himself

Not as up to speed as yourself on biochar though!

You're on the grid now I take it?

An expert knows that they know nothing.

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I was surprised Follador hadn't heard of the Johnson-Su Bioreactor, perhaps he knows it under another name.

I'd say he just answered that he had no personal experience of it.