Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

robinph

deceit wrote: »

It shows them kicking out monitors saying voting was finished for the night.
When it was finished they brought out boxes hidden under a table and started counting them. This correlates with the time Biden got a huge jump in the graphs.

No it doesn't.

It has someone speaking about those claims whilst we watch a video of some boxes being moved. She also says in the video it was 8:20am, not a time of day that would normally be called night, maybe time for a change of shift.

PopePalpatine

briany wrote: »

Have to think there are at least some Republicans who now think embracing the whole Tea Party movement wasn't such a great idea. It is directly out of that movement, and the naked populism spearheaded by Sarah Palin that the party now finds itself grappling a monster of a strength that could rend the party in two, and there'll be those who'll argue, even, that this schism has already been completed.

Nah, it's not going to rend the party in two, it's going to swallow it whole.

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1334870198860525573?s=19

"Elite team"

The standard of legal drafting from trumps team is shocking.

deceit

robinph wrote: »

No it doesn't.

It has someone speaking about those claims whilst we watch a video of some boxes being moved. She also says in the video it was 8:20am, not a time of day that would normally be called night, maybe time for a change of shift.

https://twitter.com/stathanas/status/1334825762915016706/photo/1

deceit

Also they are voting boxes and they didn't just review letters, it shows them processing votes in the video. If the whole 2 hour period gets thrown out, that is enough to flip Georgia.

robinph

deceit wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stathanas/status/1334825762915016706/photo/1

What is that meant to prove? Some votes were counted, then they get uploaded to the results system and some coloured bars are printed on a graphic.

Ratio of difference between the two columns matches the ratio between other uploads through the night. Big variation in the totals uploaded in each time slot, but so what. On it's own that proves nothing.

Is it uploaded automatically on the hour, every hour? Is that chart showing each individual upload or is it showing hourly totals? Could one upload have been done at 1 minutes past the hour and another at 1 minute to the hour?

They are just posting videos of boxes being moved and random charts, but no proof of anything other than an election happened and votes were counted and then added together.

deceit

deceit wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stathanas/status/1334825762915016706/photo/1

I'm a bit confused as what your view is. The link from this tweet demonstrates that it's nonsense?

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

The media and party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night, but they apparently followed workers who left once their job of opening envelopes was completed, the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories. The observers were free to return at anytime, she said. Georgia law allows observers, but does not require them to be there for ballots to be counted, she said.

deceit wrote: »

Also they are voting boxes and they didn't just review letters, it shows them processing votes in the video. If the whole 2 hour period gets thrown out, that is enough to flip Georgia.

No it wouldn't. Biden has a 12,670 vote lead and this hoax nonsense is regarding 10,000 ballots.

Cody montana

deceit wrote: »

It shows them kicking out monitors saying voting was finished for the night.
When it was finished they brought out boxes hidden under a table and started counting them. This correlates with the time Biden got a huge jump in the graphs.

We all know this will be disproven in a few days.
Then what narrative will ye run on?

Shelga

Anyone notice how quickly media coverage of Trump, over here anyway, seems to have shrunk since Biden was declared winner 4 weeks ago? I mean, yeah, they're covering his insane rants about a stolen election, but it's like 5th or 6th story now. He's not the first thing I see on the news every day anymore.

It is utterly blissful and I can't wait to mute him completely from January 21st on.

deceit

robinph wrote: »

What is that meant to prove? Some votes were counted, then they get uploaded to the results system and some coloured bars are printed on a graphic.

Ratio of difference between the two columns matches the ratio between other uploads through the night. Big variation in the totals uploaded in each time slot, but so what. On it's own that proves nothing.

Is it uploaded automatically on the hour, every hour? Is that chart showing each individual upload or is it showing hourly totals? Could one upload have been done at 1 minutes past the hour and another at 1 minute to the hour?

They are just posting videos of boxes being moved and random charts, but no proof of anything other than an election happened and votes were counted and then added together.

The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?
These are counting the votes as they are processed live but tallied at specific intervals.
Its also telling that they removed the central dominion server in this location when a judge was processing an ordering to prevent it being tampered with saying the system required patches and then broke the server. They did the same in this location with the 2018 election.

deceit

deceit wrote: »

The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?

No it isn't. I already pointed that out in my post.

briany

Shelga wrote: »

It is utterly blissful and I can't wait to mute him completely from January 21st on.

It'll definitely be a welcome relief, but it would be unwise for anyone to think Trump or Trumpism is done. It would be the same folly as driving back a cockroach infestation, but only to the point where you don't really see any around the house. Meanwhile they're perfectly free to multiply in the walls and under the floorboards.

robinph

If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?

robinph

robinph wrote: »

If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?

Pretty much every conspiracy collapses when you think of it logically like that.

"Every young, gifted boy who dreamt of becoming an astronaut when he was young and who then went on to work incredibly hard to fulfil that dream ended up being corrupt as they didn't speak out when the government told them and everyone else at NASA that they were going to fake a moon landing in order to trick millions of people for political reasons? Not a single one of those intelligent people at NASA had a conscious to just say no and tell the media what was going on? Not one?"

Logic, however, is not a friend to conspiracy theorists.

Quin_Dub

robinph wrote: »

If you have gone to the trouble of setting up a conspiracy across multiple counties, in multiple states with different leadership in each of those states to cheat at an election that is relatively finely balanced that you need so many thousand extra votes to appear in the right counting center at the time of the night and you somehow manage to have hundreds of people involved across each state pre filling out all these fake ballots. How do you manage to keep all of those people quiet about the scam, and why didn't you make sure that they filled out the other parts of the ballot as well to ensure that you also won the other various votes that were going on at the same time?

If you have all this system setup to cheat, why do it so badly?

What was the plan supposed to be?

We want to beat Trump , but we're still going to let McConnell have the Senate so he can neuter every possible piece of Legislation we might ever want to pass.

What exactly is the point of carrying out Massive unprecedented levels of hyper sophisticated Fraud only to forget to tick a few extra boxes such that it prevents you from actually having any influence???

mcmoustache

deceit wrote: »

The machines on the desks are the counting machines, at the very least the processed votes without poll watchers present which I believe in Georgia is enough to get them tossed?
These are counting the votes as they are processed live but tallied at specific intervals.
Its also telling that they removed the central dominion server in this location when a judge was processing an ordering to prevent it being tampered with saying the system required patches and then broke the server. They did the same in this location with the 2018 election.

You should know that these daft conspiracy theories aren't aimed at serious people. Instead they're aimed at the gullible as a way to raise money. That's why sensible people people aren't falling for them while America's lower percentile are falling for it in droves. There are politicians and media heads promoting it too for their own interests but most of them don't believe it either. Again, these theories are aimed at the gullible.

eagle eye

deceit wrote:

You mean the info that Rudy released yesterday? I find it funny the people that make fun of Rudy go by a CNN narrative which with project Veritas sitting on their 9am calls for the last few months and releasing the info over the last few days of recordings that show this to be made up for political reasons.

I don't watch CNN, it's too biased for my taste.
Rudy though is an absolute disgrace. Anybody with an ounce of respect for him is either a joker or lacking something.
There's no possible way for a sound mind to not see what he is.

Quin_Dub

It is very instructive that thus far , the only one mad enough to actually go into a court room with any of this so called "evidence" is Sidney Powell, and even Rudy thinks she's a bit off kilter.

Talk is cheap.. Well for them it is, so far it has cost all his gullible supporters over $200M in donations to "Fund the fight" AKA "Pay Off Donnies Debts"

everlast75

What is noticeable is there are those that are perfectly willing to say how cracked and loopy Rudy and Sidney Powell are, but somehow seem to avoid saying that Trump is as bad if not worse for employing them and echoing what they are saying....

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

What is noticeable is there are those that are perfectly willing to say how cracked and loopy Rudy and Sidney Powell are, but somehow seem to avoid saying that Trump is as bad if not worse for employing them and echoing what they are saying....

Tony EH

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty much every conspiracy collapses when you think of it logically like that.

"Every young, gifted boy who dreamt of becoming an astronaut when he was young and who then went on to work incredibly hard to fulfil that dream ended up being corrupt as they didn't speak out when the government told them and everyone else at NASA that they were going to fake a moon landing in order to trick millions of people for political reasons? Not a single one of those intelligent people at NASA had a conscious to just say no and tell the media what was going on? Not one?"

Logic, however, is not a friend to conspiracy theorists.

Conspiracies can and do happen. Small and large groups conspire all the time. The bad side effect is that some people then start to contribute everything they don't like to a "conspiracy" and will conjure up all kinds of nonsensical scenarios to, somehow, justify the idiotic notions they have in their heads.

This "mass voter fraud" thing is just the latest in a long line of that type of thinking, and I use that word in the very loosest of ways. It's also not helped by the fact that Trump and his gang are actively encouraging the mental unfortunates that are his supporters to believe such gibberish. Those same mental unfortunates won't, not even for a second, sit down and actually smoke test any of the "proof" or "smoking guns" they see in their YouTube or Twitter algorithms. They'll just accept it as true and then spread it around like the Coronavirus.

everlast75

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

That made me lol.

Cheers

everlast75

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1334986209781833728?s=19

But but but, it's a conspiracy

All_in_Flynn

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1334986209781833728?s=19

But but but, it's a conspiracy

Nevada case dismissed with prejudice. Read a couple of snippets of the court ruling there. Essentially, every single piece of 'evidence' was torn apart and dismissed as nonsense.

I'm absolutely loving all of this. White House is in full on panic mode. Every Tom, Dick & Harry scrambling for a pardon and others trying to distance themselves. We are going to get years of trials and entertainment out of this. Looking forward to the Netflix documentary.

Kermit.de.frog

I've watched this twice and it's still amazing. Good man Rudy.

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1334315220815278080

everlast75

There's always a tweet

https://twitter.com/20thgrader/status/1334769011922493442?s=19

briany

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've watched this twice and it's still amazing. Good man Rudy.

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1334315220815278080

I'm impressed in a way. They wanted a drunk Karen and they got themselves the drunkest, Karenest Karen.

BobbyMalone

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've watched this twice and it's still amazing. Good man Rudy.

https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1334315220815278080

At 0.35 seconds you have Rudy trying to get her attention, and lightly tapping the table. You know things are bad when Rudy is trying to get you to calm down.

Biden officially secures enough electors to become president.

California certified its presidential election Friday and appointed 55 electors pledged to vote for Democrat Joe Biden officially handing him the Electoral College majority needed to win the White House.

Secretary of State Alex Padilla s formal approval of Biden's win in the state brought his tally of pledged electors so far to 279, according to a tally by The Associated Press. That’s just over the 270 threshold for victory.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-officially-secures-enough-electors-to-become-president-joe-biden-donald-trump-california-electoral-college-alex-padilla-b1766612.html

robinph

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Biden officially secures enough electors to become president.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-officially-secures-enough-electors-to-become-president-joe-biden-donald-trump-california-electoral-college-alex-padilla-b1766612.html

Must have cheated. No other state has declared so many votes for Biden, and then California come along and find an extra 55 people. Where did they come from? It's too many people to even fit on a 52 seater bus, and with social distancing they must have been breaking the law. It's a conspiracy them turning up at this late stage and nobody was expecting them.

Quick, everyone to Hilton for a press conference. No not the hotel, I meant Paris Hiltons driveway, Hugo Chavez is about to confess to the conspiracy.