Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Inquitus

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

My money is on Stone.

All of the Above!

everlast75

nolivesmatter wrote: »

"<insert name here> should be taken out back and shot" while in poor taste is a commonly used phrase to say someone is terrible at something. It's hardly the same as saying that someone should be shot and killed.

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1333884246277189633?s=20

Ronin247

eagle eye wrote: »

You just hopped up on a slippery slope there.
There have been many mystifying pardons given out by many Presidents.

Now I am not a Trump supporter but........ whatabout the other side??

Ronin247

Ronin247 wrote: »

Now I am not a Trump supporter but........ whatabout the other side??

Even though Trump has pardoned far fewer people than Obama, his list is "interesting"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama#January_19,_2017

Quin_Dub

Ronin247 wrote: »

Now I am not a Trump supporter but........ whatabout the other side??

GWB pardoning Scooter Libby was dodgy

GB Snr pardoning all the Iran/Contra guys was dodgy.

Clinton pardoning Susan McDougal, his former Business Partner was also well dodgy.

They've all given out pardons that were questionable, however I think Trump is the only one that has pardon someone (Flynn, Stone) for a crime directly linked to the President and he'll pardon a few more even closer ones before he's done.

Boggles

Quin_Dub wrote: »

GWB pardoning Scooter Libby was dodgy

That was Trump.

Bush commuted his sentence.

ollkiller

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1333884246277189633?s=20

Fair play to him. More spine and backbone that 99% of the Republican party.

francois

More grift, possible trouble from the snakeoil salesman extraodinary, kushner

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/release-ppp-loan-recipients-data-reveals-troubling-patterns-n1249629?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR19qll3_3CiNZBBKhkCMryDze91vefAGBGWPlxZVjsThp9plscPUDFpLpQ

Tell me how

I've long said there was a potential of this happening.

Ivanka

MAGA-ite in Manhattan?: Ivanka Trump’s political ambitions seek new home after the White House
Friends and former associates say they expect the first daughter to think about running for office, or at least get involved in some way in Republican politics

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Ivanka Trump has dodged questions about whether she plans to run for a political office. But over her four years serving as a senior White House adviser, she has completed a stunning transformation from a publicly liberal New Yorker who some hoped would serve as a restraining influence on her father to an “unapologetically” “pro-life” advocate of the Make America Great Again agenda — a “proud Trump Republican,” as she told Fox News earlier this year.

She should be laughed out of the room if she ever puts her name on a ballot, but that was the case with her father as well and look how he did.
Expect to see publicity shots of her meeting world leaders, opening the US embassy in Jerusalem, attending G7 conferences etc while Fox pundits gush about her being such an example as a working mother, talk about how much she learned while working in the White House for her father, and how she tried to reign in the worst motivations of her devious father.

The boot should be firmly kept on Trumps neck in terms of the law suits against him to show just how destructive this family is.
And Trump supporters crow about the 'elite' and draining the swamp as Ivanka and her husband struggled to get security clearance and just waltzed in to the White House.

If Ivanka were to run against AOC for the office of President tomorrow, AOC would get destroyed and that says just how much of a mess US politics is in.

Cody montana

Biden has surpassed 81 million votes, and expanded his popular vote victory margin to nearly 7 million votes and 4.4%.

Biden 81,059,553 (51.3%)
Trump 74,118,736 (46.9%)

This is the second biggest win over an incumbent since 1900.

everlast75

On a lighter note...

https://twitter.com/canadianprguy/status/1333531979585904642?s=09

Carfacemandog

ollkiller wrote: »

Fair play to him. More spine and backbone that 99% of the Republican party.

Yeah and no, the irony of that guys tweet is that he and anyone who wasn't speaking out quite a while ago are also absolutely complicit. It's just that their time changed once the crosshairs landed in them or those near them.

Cody montana

Kaylie McEanay speaking soon.

namloc1980

Cody montana wrote: »

Kaylie McEanay speaking soon.

That woman lies like the rest of us breathe oxygen.

Buford T Justice

Cody montana wrote: »

Kaylie McEanay speaking soon.

Great. More likes and drivel

Carfacemandog

Haven't watched one of those press conferences Ina good 2 or 3 years, it's about the biggest waste of time one an possibly bother with; just really bad fiction.

Cody montana

namloc1980 wrote: »

That woman lies like the rest of us breathe oxygen.

She just referred to the "trump vaccine".
Odious.

namloc1980

Cody montana wrote: »

She just referred to the "trump vaccine".
Odious.

She's giving him personal credit for creation of the vaccines. This is North Korea levels of propaganda where the Dear Leader is given personal credit for anything positive.

PropJoe10

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Haven't watched one of those press conferences Ina good 2 or 3 years, it's about the biggest waste of time one an possibly bother with; just really bad fiction.

It's just an exercise in bare-faced lies and public humiliation. I think this press sec is even worse than Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and I thought it was impossible to be a worse liar than her. But they take it to a new level with each appointment.

Penn

Cody montana wrote: »

She just referred to the "trump vaccine".
Odious.

I thought the election was the Trump Vaccine...

Cody montana

namloc1980 wrote: »

She's giving him personal credit for creation of the vaccines. This is North Korea levels of propaganda where the Dear Leader is given personal credit for anything positive.

Also calling it the Trump vaccine wouldn't be a ringing endorsement.
They actually want people to take it.
Not fear it.

eagle eye

duploelabs wrote:

Like?

Ford's pardon of Nixon, George Bush senior's pardoning of a bunch of Reagan officials, Clinton pardoning Marc Rich and getting rid of his own brothers conviction.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

Ford's pardon of Nixon, George Bush senior's pardoning of a bunch of Reagan officials, Clinton pardoning Marc Rich and getting rid of his own brothers conviction.

none of them pardoned a co-conspirator or somebody who paid for a pardon. as per usual you hold everybody other than trump to a much higher standard.

The Floyd p

everlast75 wrote: »

On a lighter note...

https://twitter.com/canadianprguy/status/1333531979585904642?s=09

Absolute drivel. It's like the whole "Thanks Obama" meme, people would rather a politician be their friend than actually have substantive policy or govern properly.

duploelabs

The Floyd p wrote: »

Absolute drivel. It's like the whole "Thanks Obama" meme, people would rather a politician be their friend than actually have substantive policy or govern properly.

I think it shows humility and comedy. Certainly speaks volumes that Trump was the only president not to have any kind of a pet in the white house, and that he uses the term 'dog' in a derogatory way

everlast75

The Floyd p wrote: »

Absolute drivel. It's like the whole "Thanks Obama" meme, people would rather a politician be their friend than actually have substantive policy or govern properly.

After 4 years of completely toxic bolloxology from Trump, the world needs a little levity.

The office of the president was a rancid toilet since he took office and isn't it pleasant to have some humour at no one's expense, rather than a press release or tweet encouraging actions against a governor, violence against the press or that people other than those that are white should go back to where they came from.

PS - Substantive policy was presented at the debates by Biden, while trump waxed lyrical with nebulous nonsense.

everlast75

Penn wrote: »

I thought the election was the Trump Vaccine...

The Trump vaccine sounds like something you'd have to pick up down the V.D. clinic...

The Floyd p

everlast75 wrote: »

After 4 years of completely toxic bolloxology from Trump, the world needs a little levity.

The office of the president was a rancid toilet since he took office and isn't it pleasant to have some humour at no one's expense, rather than a press release or tweet encouraging actions against a governor, violence against the press or that people other than those that are white should go back to where they came from.

PS - Substantive policy was presented at the debates by Biden, while trump waxed lyrical with nebulous nonsense.

The office of the president has been a rancid toilet for a long time. Take a look at Obama's/Bush's foreign policy. This reminds me of the Elizabeth Warren love in during the primaries, ****é like "Wouldn't it be nice to have a mom in charge?"

A lot of democrat voters love to be babied and pandered to, that's why they ate up all the ****é that Obama served them. It would have been better for Obama's legacy if he had pushed for more radical reform while the Democrats controlled both houses before 2010, instead of squandering most of his presidency.

Biden provided little of substance at those debates. Simply not being Trump was enough for a lot of people. People most in need of real reform should know they won't get it with Biden, or Harris for that matter.

Any expectation that real change is coming in the next 4 years is seriously misguided.

ohnonotgmail

The Floyd p wrote: »

Absolute drivel. It's like the whole "Thanks Obama" meme, people would rather a politician be their friend than actually have substantive policy or govern properly.

Unlike Trump Biden did actually have policies. It is possible for a politician to be both a human being and have policies. they are not mutually exclusive.

The Floyd p

duploelabs wrote: »

I think it shows humility and comedy. Certainly speaks volumes that Trump was the only president not to have any kind of a pet in the white house, and that he uses the term 'dog' in a derogatory way

Ronald Reagan showed plenty of comedy in his time. He was also one of the most destructive presidents in the 20th Century.