The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

greenspurs

sydthebeat wrote: »

We are seeing in America right now the damage that conspiracy theories can do.

I think some posters need to be mindful of this when they put something out onto the Web which they claim as truth without knowing for real..... Or even something as simple as passing the lie on....

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

"on the net" is a general term. I have no idea why you thought they meant boards specifically.

"Some posters" ...

as in people that post on here .....


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sydthebeat

greenspurs wrote: »

No,
But Syd intimated in his post that "conspiracy theorists" should be careful what they post on the net , that he meant on Boards??!
Why else would he post it on Boards ?

i meant what i said.

the "web" is not limited to boards.ie :D:D

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silliussoddius

greenspurs wrote: »

No,
But Syd intimated in his post that "conspiracy theorists" should be careful what they post on the net , that he meant on Boards??!
Why else would he post it on Boards ?

Fantasists should be more worried about what they consume and think to be true, we only need to look at he flock of sheep yesterday to see what the ramifications are.

Dohnjoe

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

silliussoddius

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Obviously fraudulently elected.

King Mob

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

I don't think it's purposefully lazy or crap.
Trump and other conspiracy merchants like to keep their claims open and vague for specific reasons.
It leaves their claims open to interpretation so that they are acceptable to a wide range of people.
For example, by insinuating that there's a cabal working against him, but not specifying who, lets the audience fill in the gaps.
For a moderate supporter it could mean "He's just talking about the democrats, media and business interests."
For a more hardcore conspiracy theorist, they can take it to mean: "he's talking about the Deep State as predicted by Qanon."
For others: "He's talking about the Jews."

It's a tactic most of the scam artists are applying these days. Lets their crap sell to a wider audience while also avoiding problematic implications.
Sure it leaves the believers who swallow the crap without a coherent belief system that stands up to any level of questioning, but that's not their problem.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Good thing they're so dumb.

Overheal

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Not a single “Trump supporter” stood in defense of our nation with the police. Did Trump have no supporters in DC? Was the woman who died Antifa or a Hero? It cannot be both. I’ve been hearing this whacko idea all day, and I cannot be more incensed than I have already been the last 24 hours.

Overheal

greenspurs wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D

Are you serious??

Do americans read boards?

Your 'truths' are ok though ?

Actually we do. Not to rehash that flop argument but thought you ought to know.

Overheal

The only query I have right now is has Trump already been 25th’d.

Only the President Pro Tempore and House Speaker need be informed of the action. From there, the Congress has 48 hours to convene the matter and it eventually goes to a 2/3rd vote (but we are inside the 20 day window where even without the threshold Trump could never be in power again if the House etc. simply refused to hold the vote, letting the timeline run out to Jan 20)

The risk of letting him jump back on Twitter and issue an order 66 to his most radical supporters/terror cells would be hard to surmount. I think this is why Pence and the cabinet ordered the Guard deployed instead of Trump. I think that’s why his video message was pre-recorded, even with the “I still won” it was good enough to print to get people to disperse.

Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

Anyway... back to the staged event in Washington ..

The event was "staged"? by who and how?

greenspurs

silliussoddius wrote: »

Not in the way you think. Ideas that are rooted in fantasy, delusion or dishonesty are not deserving of tolerance.

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

Overheal

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The event was "staged"? by who and how?

By Trump. He organized it. He told them where to go. He said he was going with them, once the stampede was told where to go he slinked off and laughed from his basement.

silliussoddius

greenspurs wrote: »

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

I don't think I'm right. The conspiracy theory industry is rooted in dishonesty, no matter how many times they're proved wrong they just roll it into the next one. When they have a track record that bad, their opinions are worthless. Take the theme of this thread, what do you think is most likely: a massive conspiracy involving both political parties, multiple levels of the judiciary, public officials across state and local levels and god knows who else were involved in a massive conspiracy or a conspiracy theorist who has a track record of being a compulsive liar and crying fraud, then promising evidence which is never delivered, is yet again bullsh!tting. Which do you think I will believe?

Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

The problem is when these people present these delusions and fantasies as fact. On public forums. There is nothing wrong with challenging these notions.

These people are often exposed as completely wrong when rational scrutiny is applied.

Dohnjoe

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The problem is when these people present these delusions and fantasies as fact. On public forums. There is nothing wrong with challenging these notions.

These people are often exposed as completely wrong when rational scrutiny is applied.

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That sort of viewpoint doesn't seem to be held by many around these parts..

The funny thing is, Overheal spent the entire summer last year saying rioting was great altogether..

One was a large scale protest movement that was primarily peaceful and has been recognised as such. Yesterday was an attempted insurrection and not a protest. It was encouraged by the President and that's the reality, that's why his staff are resigning en masse.

Overheal

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

They’ve been listened to for 2 months.

Safe harbor was December 8
The electors met on December 14
Congressman were speaking to their very concerns as they broke into the building! How can you say they haven’t been listened to?

greenspurs

Overheal wrote: »

This wasn’t even a riot. This was terrorism. This wasn’t some empty courthouse or a vacant wildlife refuge. The entire Congress was convened inside with three Vice President and they fully meant to find and hang him for “treason.” They planted bombs at the DNC and RNC.

If you have the testicles to snipe at me for horsesh*t though bring receipts or don’t show up at all.

:D:D:D :rolleyes:

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

There are no legitimate concerns.

Trump's claims about the election are baseless and have been demonstrated as such through the courts and election officials.

Trump however has continued to lie to his base about the elections and directly incited them to move on the Capitol building, which is what they did.

silliussoddius

Deleted User wrote: »

One was a large scale protest movement that was primarily peaceful and has been recognised as such. Yesterday was an attempted insurrection and not a protest. It was encouraged by the President and that's the reality, that's why his staff are resigning en masse.

Let's also leave aside the fact that what happened yesterday started with a sitting President addressing a crowd with dishonest statements (this crowd was made up of believers in what is possibly the dumbest of all conspiracy theories), and telling them they have to take the power back from people who were confirming the results of a recent election, the election was questioned but no evidence was presented. Then you had people replacing the US flag with a Trump flag, I think calling it a insurrection is generous, more like the release of pent up expectations from a cult like group.

silliussoddius

sydthebeat wrote: »

you dont own truth or facts....

just because you believe a lie, and accept it as "your truth" doesn't make it actually true.

that point is infinitely lost on the majority of conspiracy theorists.

yesterday is the result of gullible people being sold an outright lie... a lie that is continued in this thread.

As the saying goes, you are entitled to your opinion but not your facts.

Ted_YNWA

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greenspurs

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Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

See....
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Maybe you missed the earlier question but you claimed the event in Washington was staged? If so, staged how and by who?

King Mob

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

What concerns are you refering to and why weren't they brought up during the 60+ lawsuits?

Or are you refering to the documented cases of voter fraud that only seem to involve one republican voter and the president himself trying to influence the results?

Timberrrrrrrr

King Mob wrote: »

What concerns are you refering to and why weren't they brought up during the 60+ lawsuits?

Or are you refering to the documented cases of voter fraud that only seem to involve one republican voter and the president himself trying to influence the results?

BuT THeY HaD AFFiDAvitSSSSSSSSSSsss!

sydthebeat

Karen was drunk though

one world order

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

Smee_Again

one world order wrote: »

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

And when he doesn't get his second term? What then?