The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

greenspurs · 07-01-2021 12:53pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

We are seeing in America right now the damage that conspiracy theories can do.

I think some posters need to be mindful of this when they put something out onto the Web which they claim as truth without knowing for real..... Or even something as simple as passing the lie on....

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

"on the net" is a general term. I have no idea why you thought they meant boards specifically.

"Some posters" ...

as in people that post on here .....

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sydthebeat · 07-01-2021 2:10pm

greenspurs wrote: »

No,
But Syd intimated in his post that "conspiracy theorists" should be careful what they post on the net , that he meant on Boards??!
Why else would he post it on Boards ?

i meant what i said.

the "web" is not limited to boards.ie

:D:D

Trigger · 07-01-2021 2:11pm

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silliussoddius · 07-01-2021 4:43pm

greenspurs wrote: »

No,
But Syd intimated in his post that "conspiracy theorists" should be careful what they post on the net , that he meant on Boards??!
Why else would he post it on Boards ?

Fantasists should be more worried about what they consume and think to be true, we only need to look at he flock of sheep yesterday to see what the ramifications are.

Dohnjoe · 07-01-2021 5:15pm

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

silliussoddius · 07-01-2021 5:24pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Obviously fraudulently elected.

King Mob · 07-01-2021 5:26pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

I don't think it's purposefully lazy or crap.
Trump and other conspiracy merchants like to keep their claims open and vague for specific reasons.
It leaves their claims open to interpretation so that they are acceptable to a wide range of people.
For example, by insinuating that there's a cabal working against him, but not specifying who, lets the audience fill in the gaps.
For a moderate supporter it could mean "He's just talking about the democrats, media and business interests."
For a more hardcore conspiracy theorist, they can take it to mean: "he's talking about the Deep State as predicted by Qanon."
For others: "He's talking about the Jews."

It's a tactic most of the scam artists are applying these days. Lets their crap sell to a wider audience while also avoiding problematic implications.
Sure it leaves the believers who swallow the crap without a coherent belief system that stands up to any level of questioning, but that's not their problem.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Good thing they're so dumb.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 5:43pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Apparently conspiracy theorists and Trumpists are trying to pull the laziest CT in history and make up a narrative that it was actually Antifa going into the chamber..

In which case it's real pity that so many of the Trump supporters took photos and filmed themselves inside the premises, including newly elected Republican lawmaker Derrick Evans.

Not a single “Trump supporter” stood in defense of our nation with the police. Did Trump have no supporters in DC? Was the woman who died Antifa or a Hero? It cannot be both. I’ve been hearing this whacko idea all day, and I cannot be more incensed than I have already been the last 24 hours.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 5:44pm

greenspurs wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D

Are you serious??

Do americans read boards?

Your 'truths' are ok though ?

Actually we do. Not to rehash that flop argument but thought you ought to know.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 6:23pm

The only query I have right now is has Trump already been 25th’d.

Only the President Pro Tempore and House Speaker need be informed of the action. From there, the Congress has 48 hours to convene the matter and it eventually goes to a 2/3rd vote (but we are inside the 20 day window where even without the threshold Trump could never be in power again if the House etc. simply refused to hold the vote, letting the timeline run out to Jan 20)

The risk of letting him jump back on Twitter and issue an order 66 to his most radical supporters/terror cells would be hard to surmount. I think this is why Pence and the cabinet ordered the Guard deployed instead of Trump. I think that’s why his video message was pre-recorded, even with the “I still won” it was good enough to print to get people to disperse.

Dohnjoe · 07-01-2021 6:27pm

greenspurs wrote: »

Anyway... back to the staged event in Washington ..

The event was "staged"? by who and how?

greenspurs · 07-01-2021 6:30pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

Not in the way you think. Ideas that are rooted in fantasy, delusion or dishonesty are not deserving of tolerance.

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 6:31pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The event was "staged"? by who and how?

By Trump. He organized it. He told them where to go. He said he was going with them, once the stampede was told where to go he slinked off and laughed from his basement.

silliussoddius · 07-01-2021 6:37pm

greenspurs wrote: »

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

I don't think I'm right. The conspiracy theory industry is rooted in dishonesty, no matter how many times they're proved wrong they just roll it into the next one. When they have a track record that bad, their opinions are worthless. Take the theme of this thread, what do you think is most likely: a massive conspiracy involving both political parties, multiple levels of the judiciary, public officials across state and local levels and god knows who else were involved in a massive conspiracy or a conspiracy theorist who has a track record of being a compulsive liar and crying fraud, then promising evidence which is never delivered, is yet again bullsh!tting. Which do you think I will believe?

Dohnjoe · 07-01-2021 6:38pm

greenspurs wrote: »

But to those that believe them , they arent rooted in fantasy , delusion etc...

If you cannot allow people to have different opinions with resorting to labelling them with the buzz words, tin foil hat/con theorist/deluded etc , well then its not worth dealing with.

Just because YOU think YOU are right, doesnt mean the other person is wrong.

The problem is when these people present these delusions and fantasies as fact. On public forums. There is nothing wrong with challenging these notions.

These people are often exposed as completely wrong when rational scrutiny is applied.

07-01-2021 6:40pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The problem is when these people present these delusions and fantasies as fact. On public forums. There is nothing wrong with challenging these notions.

These people are often exposed as completely wrong when rational scrutiny is applied.

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

07-01-2021 6:41pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That sort of viewpoint doesn't seem to be held by many around these parts..

The funny thing is, Overheal spent the entire summer last year saying rioting was great altogether..

One was a large scale protest movement that was primarily peaceful and has been recognised as such. Yesterday was an attempted insurrection and not a protest. It was encouraged by the President and that's the reality, that's why his staff are resigning en masse.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 6:44pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

They’ve been listened to for 2 months.

Safe harbor was December 8
The electors met on December 14
Congressman were speaking to their very concerns as they broke into the building! How can you say they haven’t been listened to?

greenspurs · 07-01-2021 6:44pm

Overheal wrote: »

This wasn’t even a riot. This was terrorism. This wasn’t some empty courthouse or a vacant wildlife refuge. The entire Congress was convened inside with three Vice President and they fully meant to find and hang him for “treason.” They planted bombs at the DNC and RNC.

If you have the testicles to snipe at me for horsesh*t though bring receipts or don’t show up at all.

:D:D:D :rolleyes:

Dohnjoe · 07-01-2021 6:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

There are no legitimate concerns.

Trump's claims about the election are baseless and have been demonstrated as such through the courts and election officials.

Trump however has continued to lie to his base about the elections and directly incited them to move on the Capitol building, which is what they did.

silliussoddius · 07-01-2021 6:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

One was a large scale protest movement that was primarily peaceful and has been recognised as such. Yesterday was an attempted insurrection and not a protest. It was encouraged by the President and that's the reality, that's why his staff are resigning en masse.

Let's also leave aside the fact that what happened yesterday started with a sitting President addressing a crowd with dishonest statements (this crowd was made up of believers in what is possibly the dumbest of all conspiracy theories), and telling them they have to take the power back from people who were confirming the results of a recent election, the election was questioned but no evidence was presented. Then you had people replacing the US flag with a Trump flag, I think calling it a insurrection is generous, more like the release of pent up expectations from a cult like group.

silliussoddius · 07-01-2021 6:55pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

you dont own truth or facts....

just because you believe a lie, and accept it as "your truth" doesn't make it actually true.

that point is infinitely lost on the majority of conspiracy theorists.

yesterday is the result of gullible people being sold an outright lie... a lie that is continued in this thread.

As the saying goes, you are entitled to your opinion but not your facts.

Ted_YNWA · 07-01-2021 7:01pm

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greenspurs · 07-01-2021 7:10pm

See....
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Dohnjoe · 07-01-2021 7:12pm

greenspurs wrote: »

See....
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Maybe you missed the earlier question but you claimed the event in Washington was staged? If so, staged how and by who?

King Mob · 07-01-2021 11:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, there were legitimate concerns about the election..that they weren't listened to led to yesterday..

What concerns are you refering to and why weren't they brought up during the 60+ lawsuits?

Or are you refering to the documented cases of voter fraud that only seem to involve one republican voter and the president himself trying to influence the results?

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-01-2021 11:16pm

King Mob wrote: »

What concerns are you refering to and why weren't they brought up during the 60+ lawsuits?

Or are you refering to the documented cases of voter fraud that only seem to involve one republican voter and the president himself trying to influence the results?

BuT THeY HaD AFFiDAvitSSSSSSSSSSsss!

sydthebeat · 09-01-2021 10:09am

Karen was drunk though

one world order · 10-01-2021 1:32pm

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

Smee_Again · 10-01-2021 1:38pm

one world order wrote: »

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

And when he doesn't get his second term? What then?

The Nal · 10-01-2021 1:38pm

one world order wrote: »

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

And some people wonder why society is rejecting God.

10-01-2021 1:38pm

one world order wrote: »

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

I'm a big fan of better call saul and I'll be honest Trump is shadier but he's probably more apt than a biblical comparison. What are you gonna say when he ceases to be president on the 21st?

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-01-2021 1:40pm

one world order wrote: »

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. All the corruption and wickedness from the Luciferian illuminati and their mass produced media will be exposed. Remember God is still in control, he is using Trump just like he used Saul which became Paul in the new testament. God will give Trump a second term.

Have you been under a rock for the last couple of weeks?

CrabRevolution · 10-01-2021 1:45pm

King Mob wrote: »

I don't think it's purposefully lazy or crap.
Trump and other conspiracy merchants like to keep their claims open and vague for specific reasons.
It leaves their claims open to interpretation so that they are acceptable to a wide range of people.
For example, by insinuating that there's a cabal working against him, but not specifying who, lets the audience fill in the gaps.
For a moderate supporter it could mean "He's just talking about the democrats, media and business interests."
For a more hardcore conspiracy theorist, they can take it to mean: "he's talking about the Deep State as predicted by Qanon."
For others: "He's talking about the Jews."

It's a tactic most of the scam artists are applying these days. Lets their crap sell to a wider audience while also avoiding problematic implications.
Sure it leaves the believers who swallow the crap without a coherent belief system that stands up to any level of questioning, but that's not their problem.

Good thing they're so dumb.

Yup, keeping it vague is one of their tactics as it avoids accountability and having to produce evidence. How many times have we seen vague, seemingly non-commital "I don't know, everyone can agree that Biden's win just seems sketchy". When challenged on it, they can fall back on the defence that they never actually made any hard claims or accusations, and don't need any evidence or justifications. Yet the accusation remains and can sow doubt.

one world order · 10-01-2021 2:05pm

The Nal wrote: »

And some people wonder why society is rejecting God.

People are rejecting God because Satan control's this world and he is using the media, music industry, film and programming through the education system to reject God and become a secular world. Give it to the end of this month, Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

10-01-2021 2:09pm

one world order wrote: »

People are rejecting God because Satan control's this world and he is using the media, music industry, film and programming through the education system to reject God and become a secular world. Give it to the end of this month, Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

Trump will not be president at the end of this month. I'm sure you'll update your rants about satan though.

King Mob · 10-01-2021 2:12pm

one world order wrote: »

Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

Yes. It would be a coup. Someone claiming power when they've been voted out is a coup.

How do you believe Trump will maintain control given that he has lost the election?

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-01-2021 2:17pm

one world order wrote: »

People are rejecting God because Satan control's this world and he is using the media, music industry, film and programming through the education system to reject God and become a secular world. Give it to the end of this month, Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

Please explain how you think Trump will be president, explain the process of what will happen that results in Trump staying in office.

If you cannot explain this then you are proving to all that you are just telling lies and your baby jesus doesn't like people who tells lies, lies are Satan's words right?

The Nal · 10-01-2021 2:38pm

one world order wrote: »

People are rejecting God because Satan control's this world and he is using the media, music industry, film and programming through the education system to reject God and become a secular world. Give it to the end of this month, Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

Trump isn't religious. Biden is. Why would God install an atheist over a church goer?

one world order · 10-01-2021 3:34pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Please explain how you think Trump will be president, explain the process of what will happen that results in Trump staying in office.

If you cannot explain this then you are proving to all that you are just telling lies and your baby jesus doesn't like people who tells lies, lies are Satan's words right?

At the moment behind the scenes those working for Trump, including the military are putting all the evidence together. This will be coming out before January 20th. Those controlling the media are in full panic mode, censoring discussion on line and will be creating their narrative of an attempted coup. It will result in many arrests and from what I gather the corruption in the Vatican will also be part of what's coming. Other than that I'm not going to say any more.

10-01-2021 3:36pm

one world order wrote: »

At the moment behind the scenes those working for Trump, including the military are putting all the evidence together. This will be coming out before January 20th. Those controlling the media are in full panic mode, censoring discussion on line and will be creating their narrative of an attempted coup. It will result in many arrests and from what I gather the corruption in the Vatican will also be part of what's coming. Other than that I'm not going to say any more.

Cool, so what you gonna do if nothing comes out?

King Mob · 10-01-2021 3:38pm

one world order wrote: »

At the moment behind the scenes those working for Trump, including the military are putting all the evidence together. This will be coming out before January 20th.

Who is working for Trump? What are they doing behind the scenes? What are they planning to do with the military. It sounds like you're hoping for a violent military coup of an unelected religious dictator.

Why haven't they produced the evidence at any of the 60 plus lawsuits they throw out?
Why did they not produce this evidence on the 6th? Other conspiracy theorists were telling us that the 6th was the day everything would come out, but nothing did at all.

Were the Trump supporters who stormed the building real or were they part of the conspiracy?

one world order wrote: »

Other than that I'm not going to say any more.

No, I think the reason you're not saying more is because you don't have any more.
You're pulling this stuff out of your arse.

Why are you making stuff up and lying? Doesn't the Bible say something about that?

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-01-2021 3:54pm

one world order wrote: »

At the moment behind the scenes those working for Trump, including the military are putting all the evidence together. This will be coming out before January 20th. Those controlling the media are in full panic mode, censoring discussion on line and will be creating their narrative of an attempted coup. It will result in many arrests and from what I gather the corruption in the Vatican will also be part of what's coming. Other than that I'm not going to say any more.

So when none of this comes to fruition will you come back here and apologise for lying or will you come up with some silly story about how satan thwarted them or how it's been "put on hold"?

silliussoddius · 10-01-2021 5:35pm

Wasn’t all this supposed to have happened three years ago? I suppose if you believe in this, being disappointed is part of the whole deal.

one world order · 10-01-2021 6:54pm

One final point, one of the main pieces of evidence is the breaking of the algorithms. Biden got 64million votes and Trump got 80 million, which was 6million more than they were expecting. This caused the voting to be shut down late in the night, which resulted in the massive vote dumps. This will be coming out later this week. The mass produced media and big tech have been censoring this since the election, but it's about to be blown wide open soon.

silliussoddius · 10-01-2021 6:57pm

Oh yeah. We believe the person you read on twitter. Keep giving money to his patreon, it’s all ready to blow wide open.

aido79 · 10-01-2021 7:00pm

one world order wrote: »

One final point, one of the main pieces of evidence is the breaking of the algorithms. Biden got 64million votes and Trump got 80 million, which was 6million more than they were expecting. This caused the voting to be shut down late in the night, which resulted in the massive vote dumps. This will be coming out later this week. The mass produced media and big tech have been censoring this since the election, but it's about to be blown wide open soon.

And when it doesn't will you admit you are wrong?

frag420 · 10-01-2021 7:01pm

one world order wrote: »

People are rejecting God because Satan control's this world and he is using the media, music industry, film and programming through the education system to reject God and become a secular world. Give it to the end of this month, Trump will be president and those putting their trust in the world will be screaming coup.

Sounds like a bit of a loser, your god!!!

How is God gonna get back control of the world from Satan? How did he manage to lose it in the first place, sad!!?

10-01-2021 7:01pm

one world order wrote: »

One final point, one of the main pieces of evidence is the breaking of the algorithms. Biden got 64million votes and Trump got 80 million, which was 6million more than they were expecting. This caused the voting to be shut down late in the night, which resulted in the massive vote dumps. This will be coming out later this week. The mass produced media and big tech have been censoring this since the election, but it's about to be blown wide open soon.

Well that's all nonsense. Even the GOP have conceded now... What will you say when he's no longer president at the end of the month?

Smee_Again · 10-01-2021 7:03pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well that's all nonsense. Even the GOP have conceded now... What will you say when he's no longer president at the end of the month?

This is is the nonsense forum.

The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

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