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Post pics of your watches Part II

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  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Pablo_Flox


    A rare day in the office!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭pjdarcy


    I know some people hate these Seiko mods but it's just a bit of fun while I continue to save for a grail watch...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I know, I know that I'm currently selling a Sinn 103 variant but, hear me out...

    I just saw this Sinn 356 variant with a guilloche dial and apart from the colour, the gold hue doesn't suit this watch IMO. I think I want one 😖 in a green or blue dial tho.

    I never learn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    New watch day for me .I waited 10 months for this which is the longest I’ve waited for any watch . My first white dial and wears very differently to the black or blue dials I’m used to.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    A Bulova snorkel II. Damn,it looks big in the photo. 262 khz quartz and rather accurate for it too even though not thermally compensated.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I've been alternating this pair of late. Nearly a centimetre apart in case size. 😮

    Not too far off the same thickness mind you. I generally don't wear watches in bed, but there are four watches in my hoard that if I forget to take them off after I settle in the leaba, I don't go "ah feck!" and then take them off. These are two of them. The 43mm chrono(minus crown and pushers) shows how clever case and lug design can make watches "shrink". I have found down the years military specced watches about the best designed in this regard. I suppose because they're designed for more constant use and for a wider range of wrist sizes, so it's less about fashion?

    I've also been fiddling with their regulation. Both are down to +2/3 seconds per day on the wrist. I'll stop fiddling now before I break something and cry. 😁 I also replaced the chronographs chrono hand because it had become floppy(a known issue with vintage valjoux stuff). It might return to 12 on reset, or 1, or 10, or... Got one from a German contact. Chronograph hands have to be on tight. Very tight, as the forced of reset are very strong. The flyback function adds more grief. This design doesn't help with the big "heavy" feckin triangle of lume on the end and it's entirely friction fit. The hand pinion is like one and a half blonde ones, the socket on the hand itself one blonde one. It took me a half hour to line up. Then prayers to various deities pressing it on. But now it resets like a boss.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭Neilw


    My favourite Tudor, so it is true they are hard to get hold of new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    They’ve been hard to get over the last 12 months but they seem to be becoming a bit more available now.Any newer Tudor watches such as bb58 , chrono , bi metal gmt , 41mm royal all seem to have wait lists .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    What do you use to regulate your watches?


    Bioaz hun, yourself?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,160 ✭✭✭893bet


    Lazy Saturday morning.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    I haven't started to regulate them yet, one or two I've had serviced have been regulated. My view of watches is that they are marvelous miniature machines that perform an important function, their form follows function. Accuracy or a reputation for accuracy once was an significant selling point, but not any more, we have moved to intangeible selling points.

    I have good selection of electric,electronic and quartz, I can understand their operation and appreciate the technology. I invested 30€ in that biaozhun meter and it's a bit of fun to measure or track accuracy. Things I've learned from it and the watch check app are;

    my 9F quartz lives up to it's spec, it's error in a year is on a par with COSC for a day.

    A radio synced Casio is a sloppy quartz (0.5 s/d) during the day.

    High end twin quartz Seiko lose their mojo after 40 years, but for brief periods they can get it back, it's an out of error band or aged crystal issue. There may be no point in regulating.

    Everyday quartz watch accuracy improves during the summer as the mean ambient rises .

    My GP is so well anti mag shielded the meter doesn't detect it's pulse edge.

    And now, a bit of snorkel jacket anaroking.

    These three watches were synchronized two months ago, two stayed together one wandered of at its own pace. They are 45 years old.

    The meter shows,

    A +5.4 per day Ronin.

    A negative 0.0, it's one of it's better days.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    My GP is so well anti mag shielded the meter doesn't detect it's pulse edge.

    I remember reading in WUS IIRC where someone said the same about those GP movements. That you would struggle to see any pulse from it and apparently it was down to the very different design of the GP stepping motor which was and remains unique(and too expensive to make at the time so never caught on). Again apparently if you stick one on a regular timegrapher it'll pick up the audible "tick" and give a reading that way. Though I found the loudness of the tick very much depended on the case type.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭funkyouup


    Its been a very long week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    A beautiful Saturday afternoon with the Sub.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,160 ✭✭✭893bet


    very nice. Don’t remember seeing that on the forum before.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I’m sun bathing for a week and brought these 3 . Wife thinks it’s a “ridiculous amount of watches to bring for 7 days “ but i pointed out that I brought less watches than she brought shoes which ended the conversation fairly quickly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Funnily enough, I am readying for a very similar chat with the Mrs before we head off in a few weeks.

    My watch travel case only has 2 slots, though there probably is enough time to have a watch roll delivered before we head off and if you need 3 for 7 days? I"LL need at least 5 for 14 🤔😉

    On a serious note?

    Enjoy the holiday and well wear on that particular trio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Brave....reckon it would take 10 seconds get a hotel safe open in a place where the staff know when you are out of the room and can see I am wearing different watches. I am a bring one good watch kinda person after all all my wife's shoes cost about 3 links on a Rolex. My insurance doesnt cover a bunch of watches in a hotel safe....think it wont happen....ask "Time" on here lost a Rose gold AP Royal oak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,160 ✭✭✭893bet


    I share that sentiment. Not sure I would even bring one these days. And if i did it would be a German one that one one would recognise. I am all for wearing watches, ain’t no safe queens here. But holidays is out for me. I want to relax and not be looking over my shoulder. And before someone pops in with the “insure for all risks”. I think you under estimate how easy it is get paid from insurance for a 10k watch that gets stolen either off your wrist or other wise.


    I keep them for the cows now!


    Attempted mugging on TZ the other day in Spain.

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?512027-If-it-happened-to-me-it-could-happen-to-you/page2



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I'll bring my JC on holidays this month, will do lots of swimming and watersports with it on no bother. I do agree with Fitz' point though, I would only bring the one (and wear it 24/7). I really should get a new valuation done though as the watch is now worth several thousand more than the old one says. And I know for a fact that the insurer would not pay more than what they have as the valuation.


    I'm not completely gung ho though. If I were to go to London, I wouldn't bring it. And the likes of Spain, not sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I dont see the point in buying watches and not wearing them . When I buy a watch the money is gone , I don’t see it as an asset or store of cash . It’s a watch , or a big boys toy or a non required item . Of course I don’t want to lose it but I like wearing them so I’m not going to travel without one just because they might get lost .if I lose it ,it’s gone and that’s it . You didn’t buy your Porsche as a good financial decision. You spent money on it knowing the money is gone , It’s the same thought process really.

    I would view your collection differently though to what I’ve said above. Yours are too expensive for me and I just wouldn’t be able to wear them.If I lost an €80k Patek it would hurt. It deserves a lot more babying than a 5k panerai .I envy your lack of care for them when your mucking out cows .

    Thats the right idea . I scratched the ceramic bezel on my sub today while snorkelling. So next time I’m in work and bored , I’ll notice the scratch and remember today .I foolishly thought ceramic bezels don’t scratch but I know better now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    @scwazrh - "if I lose it ,it’s gone and that’s it" - that mean you don't have them insured?


    Fair play, you're doing well in life financially if you could lose a €12k watch and it wouldn't really bother you. I guess I could take that sort of a hit myself, but it would hurt and then I wouldn't be able to justify buying another one of that value, it would be the end of 5 figure watches for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,241 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Are you sure it’s scratched? Try the pen end of an eraser on it you might be surprised .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Scwarzh "I dont see the point in buying watches and not wearing them" - exactly, the two in the safe are not being worn so whats the point bringing them except some unnecessary sartorial need to change watches. I am all for wearing your watches but I am not really into bringing a bunch on holidays, diluting the wear between them and leaving them vulnerable. Dont think the conflation of "its good to wear you watches" is the same as "its good to bring a bunch on holidays, through an airport twice and leave them unattended all day".

    Scwarzh "You didn’t buy your Porsche as a good financial decision" - I actually have two of them, wouldnt want either damaged or lost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    No they are insured and obviously I don’t want to lose them.I certainly don’t mean that I don’t care if I lose it but anyone that buys a watch can afford to lose that value of the watch otherwise you would put the money into something secure .I’m financially a long way behind many here based on reading between the lines , not that it matters .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Fitz - so whats the point bringing them except some unnecessary sartorial need to change watches.

    I dress like a hobo so it’s not sartorial.I do like to swap watches a lot though.

    I actually have two of them, wouldnt want either damaged or lost

    losing my watch roll would be less of a loss than the depreciation on your two Porsches each year so we’re both showing a healthy disrespect for our wallets .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    @scwazrh - "anyone that buys a watch can afford to lose that value of the watch otherwise you would put the money into something secure"


    Something secure, like what? a state guaranteed bank account that pays no interest and loses 10% per year in value because of inflation? Pretty much everything I have money in has gone down substantially in the last year in real terms. Except the Rolex. And both my electric cars.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I dress like a hobo

    Meet your twin. Well, more a hipster hobo. 😁

    TBH I never used to be concerned on holidays or other jaunts abroad, or evenings imbibing. I'd be more cautious now that the watch thing has gone mainstream, more people buying much more expensive watches and all that getting onto the scum radar. That said none of my watches could be confused with a gold sub or anything like that so would likely go under the scum radar anyway.

    When it's night out in new surroundings I'd usually wear this;

    Small, beer proof(tested and certified), can take a smack and scum might get a hundred quid for it from a fence. Plus since the vintage market has gone softer than a nonagenarian in a bordello, what once would have been 6-800 quid to replace is now more like 200. 👍️

    TBH if I had Pateks and AP's I doubt I'd wear them nearly so casually, insurance or no. I'd be extremely dubious of hotels and hotel "safes". Fair play to those who do.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Funny how things can go alright. Who'd have thunk the price rises in used cars and "classics" would have happened in such a short time. My old yoke is worth over twice what it was three years ago(and over twice what I paid). On the other hand my vintage watches have lost value over the last five or so years from the peak. If I'd bought at the peak or as it was rising I'd be running losses all over the place. As it stands I got most of them before the madness or got very lucky with ebay listings written by drunken dyslexics with potato cams so if I sold the lot now I'd be well in the gravy relatively speaking. The equivalent in the Rolex world would be buying a couple of Subs at discount in 2012.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    First thing I thought when I saw scwazrhs holiday watch roll was what if they get nicked or lost. When I go on holiday I usually bring three. The Aqualand, which is de riguer when diving. Either the Doxa or Seiko monster for the Orange, my GP or accutron in case we're dining somewhere that enforces a dress code( The Fariones in Lanza for example, they quite rightly refused me entry to the dining room once, I go prepared since)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Grand so based on the above... I'll only take 1 watch on holiday then 😉

    Now to choose, I think it's gonna be the Omega GMT but I'm open to something else 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Ouch Chinese Byrne


    My Hamilton 42mm Khaki Field Auto Chrono

    Ref - H71616535




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Not sure how the conversation turned to depreciation on cars? Cant do anything about depreciation on watches or cars, happens regardless of what anyone does, its an unavoidable risk of ownership. It is more a discussion of avoidable loss due to theft, or damage. I just find risk to property and my precious holiday time far greater than any advantage of changing watches for whatever reason. Also dont want to have to explain myself to customs if I get stopped.

    The loss of a watch may not cause me financial stress, but it will cause me mental stress dealing with it unless I just throw my hand up, tell nobody and chalk it down to experiance...hell the airline lost my luggage on my last holiday and it took a precious day of holiday ringing people, filling in forms, making declarations, waiting for stuff to show up, which I could have done without.

    But look I am a filthy casual these days.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Seiko diver usually does it for me. But I have been known to bring along the BF kinetic as well just for swimming in salt water.

    I think I will have to consider selling a few watches just to go on an Irish hotel break this summer.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭micks_address


    i had a Seiko diver with me last year... spb149 and was perfect for holidays on a nato... this year i'll probably bring my gshock square..



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Ouch Chinese Byrne


    I have a GM 2100 1AER arriving next week as a holiday and gardening watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭funkyouup


    I'm just gonna play it safe and stay home this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    +1 on that.

    When holidaying, the SKX009 gets an outing as I know no matter where I end up, it will stand up to the punishment.

    If it goes beyond those capabilities, well, that would be an interesting holiday!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,725 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Forever? We stayed home last year. And had an Irish holiday the year before that (laptop with me). I've had 1 day off work in the last 3 years. Got to get outta this place some time! Bit of sun would be nice too, the summer so far has been brutal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Same! We are off to Mexico in 3 weeks and we need the break. Sun, good food and some craic, as bad and all as the last couple of years have been?

    We are facing a tough run when we get back. That's if we are allowed to go, we are flying out on the 27th but there is a good chance that at an appointment pre then, we may be grounded.

    So if we can get away? We are going to party like the last days of Rome 😉 In a decent resort on the Riviera Maya before coming home to what awaits. Mad thing is? 14 days all inclusive in Mexico is still better value than anything local 🤷‍♂️



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Mexico sound fantastic Banie and ye well deserve the break. 🙂

    Today I went all 1974. As you do.

    Had a bit of an issue with this and thought ah feck it's gone and died, but I could see it trying. The stepping motor on these is like a wee propeller suspended between magnets and you have to look very closely to see it trying to spin, but it was. While it has decent enough torque for a quartz(and the time, though the GP 350 is far superior) one problem with this kinda setup is it's kinda floppy, so it has an indexing system to prevent backlash and make sure the seconds hand hits the markers exactly.

    This consists of an index wheel with 60 teeny teeth and a pawl the arow points to which engages with them that makes a blonde one look like a giant redwood, adjusted by the dark grey screw that even if you look at it funny the pawl moves. So I turned it so the pawl completely disengaged with said teeth and off she ran and strongly. Well.. because of the oddball stepping motor it would run, but wobbly and every so often run backwards for a few seconds. Like a drunken man trying to walk home. It was getting there, after a fashion. 😁 So I slooooooowly and imperceptibly brought it back in contact. No. Too far, ohhh, ahhhh OK(with my tongue stuck out the corner of my mouth). I got it on the ball indexing away. Sorted. I do not know how guys servicing tuning forks do it and those teeth are literally microscopic.

    It's clearly had a couple of services in its life going by the screws and scratches in the caseback. I like to see that. Even though it's a quartz, these were an expensive watch and Omega had ploughed millions(in 70's millions too) into the tech back then and it shows. That circular bit with the numbers is a teeny hologram which was sicfi back then. It's got a timezone function so you can adjust the hour hand(and day) while it's running and by a series of magnets and magic it sets the hour hand to the correct position when you click the crown back in. It has two buttons either side of the crown. The bottom one advances the date, the top if pressed once moves the seconds hand forward in one second intervals, hold it in and it stops the seconds hand, all to get it to set to the exact time. It's very much a quality Omega movement. Back then they could do that I suppose, when you consider their Marine Chronometer had an RRP twelve times that of a Speedmaster. The above Seamaster was twice the price and given they sold them from 74-80 and the numbers still around clearly they sold well. Going by the day wheels a large percentage of them seem to have sold in Germany.

    Values these days? Well dealers look 1000 and up depending on condition, box etc. Ebay auctions run to aorund 5-700 depending.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    Very interesting, does that index pawl exert a force on the toothed wheel to bias it into forward motion when the pulse arrives?

    There must be a hard jewel on the tip of it and why does that not wear out the wheel?

    Ive been watching the bidding on a constellation mega quartz, same movement I think but nowhere near the condition of your seamaster. Your watches are in such good condition because you've been selective, I'm relying on luck mostly. Btw, I have that 7458 coming my way.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Very interesting, does that index pawl exert a force on the toothed wheel to bias it into forward motion when the pulse arrives?

    Exactly.

    There must be a hard jewel on the tip of it and why does that not wear out the wheel?

    Funny enough there isn't. It's just bare steel rounded off. Plus quartz have so little torque compared to a mainspring the forces are absolutely tiny. Even a puff of air from one of those watchmaker dust blower thingies will stop, or slow one down. I've seen quartz movements stopped by the tiniest dust particles and I don't think I've ever seen one with worn pivots or arbours. The industry spotted that early on in the pursuit of cost cutting and started to drop jewels as bearings.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Off for my retinopathy screen appointment and this is me taking a last go at reading the time easily until this evening 🤣

    Those dilatory eye drops play havoc on any ability to focus for a few hrs




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Haven't been on holiday in three years and making up for it this year. Been to Florida and I have France and Maldives and Dubai left. Trusty Seamaster Pro done me well in Florida and trust it'll do the same for the rest. Ireland is great when the sun shines (no place like the Irish countryside with a blue sky) but it's just not dependable enough for my liking, need to get away from it to truly appreciate it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    Took the 'treat yourself' mantra a little bit too far on honeymoon recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Thats lovely Paddy - is it a new reference or older? I'm on my 3rd affair with a speedmaster. Lovely watch to own and pretty solid in terms of resale value if you ever decide to trade or move on for something else. Enjoy!



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Blanchy90


    Ugly watch co 100m sport in pink for today, they sent me this one to keep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    After a bit of patience I have ended up with this, it's a 7548. At some point in the late 70s Seiko did what VW did with the egolf, they took what they were already making and switched to electric . The mechanics of this watch are from the 6309, so the baseplate has holes for the mainspring arbour but there is no mainspring. Some engineer in Seiko drew a line through a system diagram and said keep this and innovate that.

    So my purchase runs and from the dial and hands it looks like water has not been in.Plan is to have it serviced and crystal+gaskets.



    Oh, today I'm wearing the lip nautic ski which was bought dead and revived with a donor movement.




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