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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭Dunedin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    No I did not read it correctly but it's actually worse. @50HX posted that forward stores were making more than finished cattle. His sold for 4.75-4.85 per kg liveweight. To put that in perceptive was it 2 or 3 years ago they cattle made little more than that deadweight

    Gordon Gecko said greed is good but that thinking is ridiculous. As 50HX said he would have to house them, he would probably be paying 350+/ ton for ration. Personally you sell cattle when and where ever you think you will get the most for them. If 50HX kept them cattle it's unlikely they would make anymore in 6-8 weeks time after consuming 150-200 euro or maybe more worth of feed.

    Anyone that has sold whether in a Mart or factory before now if they got the higher level off prices is not going to see that money or especially profit again.

    I posted a link to the DAFM cattle slaughter numbers. Have a look at it and do the calculations. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe someone got John Coughlan to fly 100k+ of them secretly out of the country.

    IMO it's going to be a euro or more price difference between summer and autumn thus year.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭older by the day


    And what happened to me was the over all price given by the valuer, they then deducted the gross price made in the factory. So I lost the transport and deductions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I don’t think you understood my post.

    What I meant was, and it’s just my opinion, selling the factory fit and forward stores in the mart is short term gain for long term pain. The reason they can drop the prices now is because they have control over the numbers now because they filled their feedlots and fridges.

    Lads selling in the mart were happy because they thought they were getting a few euro more than selling in the factory. If all them cattle were kept away from the marts the factory price would have stayed rising to entice them out. The annual price drop that occurs at this time every year would have been happening from a higher base point then.

    I know it would be very hard to get all farmers to come together on something like that and every lad will be thinking “sure my few cattle going to the mart isn’t going to make a difference” but if farmers could just stick together and keep the factory fit and forward stock out of the marts we’d have the control again.

    There’s no point any farmer that sold forward stores complaining about feedlots and factories because if they weren’t selling them forward stores the feedlots would be empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Counter Argument: Factories could have held the line together but it was the high prices in the marts that gave clear evidence to those selling to the factories that there was more to be had and allowed them to dig in deeper than normal



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭Robson99


    And then they would screw over the lad that kept his stores and tried to get into the factory...push him out two weeks and offer him 20 cent less than their regular customers. They went on 3 day weeks…they can afford to cut back for 6 to 8 weeks to keep manners on the farmers. Who needs who more ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭DBK1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Like I said farmers would have to stick together but I also understand that’s almost impossible to achieve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,355 ✭✭✭amacca


    I think its valuable to have a choice of outlets to sell

    If you stay out of marts and they decline In number that suits the machine imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭green daries


    Absolutely 💯 around here a lot of cattle go north from the two biggest marts round here and a lot of heavy cattle went this year



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭50HX


    Parlour cows on the move to marts this week down here

    It'll be interesting to see what they will make, I doubt the 3/kg that was freely available a few weeks ago will be there.

    Feedlots & factories will fill their boots at sub 2.5/kg

    Will see if that correlates to the cow kill figures for the next few weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Some sale currently going on in Elphin. Extraordinary quality of continentals, beating factory prices hand down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    watched thurles today for a few minutes and saw 220/230 kg Hereford bulls making €6 a kg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    well there is a big sale in Castleisland today and you're getting a serious continental store bullock for 4 euro a kilo or less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭50HX


    I saw some of them, Lmx out of LMx dams, surprised the went for that money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭morphy87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,817 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭50HX




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭50HX


    Not yet, what ive left are on the last of the dry ground & I'll house them then, they'll be overage so will finish them

    Prob should have pinched one lot of them at 4/kg, didn't see them right as I was on the road & only pulled over for a quick gander



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