Law Firm Milkrounds 20/21

lawgrad15

FE1Nov20 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything more from DAC Beachcroft ?

Never heard anything either

toby_mc

Hey guys, thought I would pop this in here. Legal check are doing an event with matheson, pinsent masons and arthur cox. During it they'll be talking about trying to build an international career as well as key commercial stories. After it there's a chance to talk to the grad recruitment team with any questions you have.

For some reasons I cant post the link but if you search 'Legal Check How to build an international legal career in Ireland — with Arthur Cox, Matheson, Pinsent Masons and BARBRI' it should pop up

HansKroenke

Corplawtrainee wrote: »

I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t think the 9-6 point is realistic. Other trainees don’t work longer because they want to. If you need to close a deal or have a court deadline to meet, you just need to get the work done end off. So, you can’t really say oh no I don’t want to do the same hours as everybody else. But tbh why should you get paid the same as everyone else and not pull your weight, like that’s your job at the end of the day. It’s not going to be crazy hours the whole time, but when it is, you just need to pull in with the rest of your team.

I don’t know enough about the WFH policy to really comment on it. But I think a big concern is that WFH may stunt the development of trainees and junior associates as they don’t have the same exposure to more senior lawyers to receive feedback and ask questions. However, maybe it was a bit controlling and not properly communicated idk.

The first paragraph sums it up basically. That's the attitude within these firms, that essentially you just have to suck up the long hours as a trainee. I was in a top 20 firm for my training, years ago at this stage, but it was known for not doing these crazy hours. There was an opportunity to not join the partnership rat race which essentially begins at trainee level. This would not have been possible in a big firm.

LawBoy2018

HansKroenke wrote: »

The first paragraph sums it up basically. That's the attitude within these firms, that essentially you just have to suck up the long hours as a trainee. I was in a top 20 firm for my training, years ago at this stage, but it was known for not doing these crazy hours. There was an opportunity to not join the partnership rat race which essentially begins at trainee level. This would not have been possible in a big firm.

That hasn't been my experience at all tbh. I haven't once been asked to work late and I've been a trainee in a top 5 firm for almost 6 months now. Yes, you may be given X amount of tasks to complete by Y, but there would always be someone there to offer a hand if ever you felt overwhelmed.

Where do these horror stories come from? Lol.

Wonderstruck

rightytighty wrote: »

Are they working remotely at the moment?

Not sure, they were wfh a few months back to my knowledge as that office in Stoneybatter was not open (well, from what I could tell walking by and I emailed someone there about months ago about something). They are interviewing remotely but clerical officer work often involves stuff like handling post / invoices etc, so unless they have said it's 100% remote I would suspect some people could be going in even partially.

I'm sure if you get in touch they could illuminate matters, I don't know anyone who works there personally to ask otherwise I would!

Also the Legal Cheek link as I have a 11 year old account so I am now trusted to post links

https://www.legalcheek.com/event/how-to-build-an-international-legal-career-in-ireland-with-arthur-cox-barbri-matheson-and-pinsent-masons/

OMGWACA

Hey, has anyone heard anything back from any summer internship applications or still a bit early?

Did anyone interview with Kennedys?

ruby1998

Just got Staines PFO.

Nothing from DAC Beachcroft yet.

Anyone hear anything from Matheson?

channing90

Has anyone here or know of anyone who has got an interview with staines or shields sadlier?

SKLaw

channing90 wrote: »

Has anyone here or know of anyone who has got an interview with staines or shields sadlier?

No. Haven’t heard at all from shields sadlier. Not even that they’ve received my application

holliek

What would the average trainee salary be for a medium sized firm?

Also didn’t hear anything back from DAC either

jus_me

Nothing at all from Staines yet

FE1new

Nothing from Matheson yet.

lawgirl23

FE1Nov20 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything more from DAC Beachcroft ?

Nothing here.

FE1Hopefully1

holliek wrote: »

What would the average trainee salary be for a medium sized firm?

Also didn’t hear anything back from DAC either

Think around the 30,000 mark low 30s or so

roisneesh

FE1Nov20 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything more from DAC Beachcroft ?

Nope nothing yet

arubamuuu

OMGWACA wrote: »

Hey, has anyone heard anything back from any summer internship applications or still a bit early?

Did anyone interview with Kennedys?

WF said they are planning to reply by the end of this week and that it’s most likely going to be a virtual internship 2-3 weeks long

law987

I wonder will most revert to virtual internships now..

Lallers96

Hopefully not, I can't imagine you'd learn a thing on a virtual internship tbh. Plus it wouldn't valued on a CV as highly I'd imagine.

FE1Hopefully1

Philip Lee interns atm are all working from home - not sure about summer interns tho

Diamond_Hands

Is there any reason why Irish firms aren't like in the UK where they're open and transparent about trainee salary? It's utterly bizarre how you can apply for a TC with a firm in Dublin and have literally no idea what remuneration you could expect or if they'll cover Blackhall fees at all. It's not good for any candidate applying.

Diamond_Hands

Lallers96 wrote: »

Hopefully not, I can't imagine you'd learn a thing on a virtual internship tbh. Plus it wouldn't valued on a CV as highly I'd imagine.

The alternative being they'd cancel the internships outright, which is not good for anyone. It's the best out of a bad situation really.

agoodusername

The London firms have to legally put thier finances out in the open, while only one of the bigger Irish firms tells us anything. I imagine that by publishing revenue and profits, publishing salaries isn't that big a deal.

It would end up costing the Irish firms more in the long run if they did make it public anyway.

LLBatman

OMGWACA wrote: »

Hey, has anyone heard anything back from any summer internship applications or still a bit early?

Did anyone interview with Kennedys?

McCann Interview offers for summer internship out today

LegalEagle21

Anyone hear anything from DAC Beachcroft?

Lallers96

PFOs out for McCann Fitz internships

lawgrad15

LegalEagle21 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything from DAC Beachcroft?

No word.

Fe1forthefun

LegalEagle21 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything from DAC Beachcroft?

No! Weird that only one person in this thread has been contacted by them.

AA247

Interviews out for Matheson!

Diamond_Hands

Interview offers out for Matheson

biglawhead420

Matheson TC or internship?