Law Firm Milkrounds 20/21

Fe1user5555

Hi guys hope everyone’s getting on well! Does anyone know what the usual increase in salary is between trainee and NQ?

FE1Hopefully1

Fe1user5555 wrote: »

Hi guys hope everyone’s getting on well! Does anyone know what the usual increase in salary is between trainee and NQ?

Every firm is different tbh but some go from 50-60/65k and some go even higher

channing90

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

Every firm is different tbh but some go from 50-60/65k and some go even higher

Any idea what the average nqt earns in a smaller practice?

FE1Hopefully1

channing90 wrote: »

Any idea what the average nqt earns in a smaller practice?

I only have knowledge from where I worked but I’m not sure what you mean by small

When you look it
Up it says average trainee is 26500

The new qualified in my firm that I used to work in was on around 35000 but it was a very small firm

T.Chunter164

IgoPAP wrote: »

Seconded. Always ask for feedback. You'll never go wrong.

I interviewed with a top 5 firm last year and when I asked for feedback I got a very cold email saying feedback isn't provided but that I should apply next round... I have never once gotten feedback after a failed interview so maybe im unlucky with my emails!

Corplawtrainee

Is anybody here considering sitting/already sat the NY Bar? Wouldn’t mind giving it a shot, but think I’m a bit short on law credits since I did a dual degree.

Do you have any idea if the modules completed on PPC would count towards the credit requirement?

Thanks

Corplawtrainee

I got through a couple of group AC’s with a top 5 and U.K. firm.

It will likely be a commercial topic, but tbh it could be on almost anything. The thing they want to see is that you’re a normal person and are comfortable working with people you just met. It’s more a test of your interpersonal skills than intelligence.

From my experience, you don’t have to show of how smart you are and make stand out points, that’s for the final interview. Focus on making a few solid points, then make sure you’re getting everyone else involved.

People who take up all the speaking time and those who barely say anything are immediately out, so focus on not being one of them.

Practical Tips:

Say people’s names as much as you can.

Try and bounce off people’s idea I.e “I think x made a really good point, what if we did this as well”.

If you see that someone is struggling and hasn’t got a word in, ask them for their opinion or include them in some way. They’re likely not getting through but it casts you in a good light.

lawgrad15

Re: DAC Beachcroft Interview - Hi there, I did it last week. There is honestly nothing to worry about. You can rerecord your answers. I think there were about 3 questions from memory? Nothing out of the blue at all. I had it fully finished in a number of minutes. Plus there is an opportunity for you to record and listen back to yourself at the start so no need to worry about mic/camera issues. That's all I can remember. Definitely wasn't difficult - so no need to worry! Hope that helps.

AlexTG356

When you submit the A & L summer internship application do you have to do the aptitude tests straight away or do they give you a few days? Don't feel like looking at a bunch of shapes and the patterns between them at 9pm at night.

Fedone

AlexTG356 wrote: »

When you submit the A & L summer internship application do you have to do the aptitude tests straight away or do they give you a few days? Don't feel like looking at a bunch of shapes and the patterns between them at 9pm at night.

They give you maximum 5 days after you submit your application to complete the tests. They send reminder emails too which are handy

jus_me

Has anyone heard or themselves got thru to the interview stage with Staines or just POFs so far ?

Lallers96

Group interviews should be fired into the sun.

Lallers96

Does anyone who was an Access Student know of the support available for securing a TC? I just got the good news that I have been accepted into the program and I'm really struggling at this stage in becoming a solicitor.

I can see the seminars and such that they offer but does anyone with prior experience know if it was of much help?

FE1Nov20

jus_me wrote: »

Has anyone heard or themselves got thru to the interview stage with Staines or just POFs so far ?

Still nothing from them .. i think I give up at this stage

LeGal97

Lallers96 wrote: »

Does anyone who was an Access Student know of the support available for securing a TC? I just got the good news that I have been accepted into the program and I'm really struggling at this stage in becoming a solicitor.

I can see the seminars and such that they offer but does anyone with prior experience know if it was of much help?

TBH I don't think so.

I was accepted awhile ago, and I still haven't secured anything.

I emailed wondering about resources available to help me when applying for jobs but I didn't receive anything back, so I am under the impression its more useful once you get a TC and go to Blackhall.

FE1Nov20

Re DAC Beachcroft - does anyone reckon that they are recruiting a number of trainees and not just 1 trainee ?

Diamond_Hands

LeGal97 wrote: »

TBH I don't think so.

I was accepted awhile ago, and I still haven't secured anything.

I emailed wondering about resources available to help me when applying for jobs but I didn't receive anything back, so I am under the impression its more useful once you get a TC and go to Blackhall.

Is it worth applying for the Access Programme if you already have a Training Contract? My firm is going to cover all of costs and fees.

FE1Rookie

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

Is it worth applying for the Access Programme if you already have a Training Contract? My firm is going to cover all of costs and fees.

If your firm is covering all fees you don't need a grant

Diamond_Hands

FE1Rookie wrote: »

If your firm is covering all fees you don't need a grant

I was just wondering if there any additional benefits that the Access Programme might provide as I am eligible for it anyways.

LeGal97

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

I was just wondering if there any additional benefits that the Access Programme might provide as I am eligible for it anyways.

Not everyone who is eligible gets a place, you must do submit an application and do an interview. I'm not sure how many spots there are on each round. I think this round is full so you'd have to wait until the summer and see does it open for new applicants.

The main benefits are Blackhall and FE1 fees covered.

NewFe1

FE1Nov20 wrote: »

Re DAC Beachcroft - does anyone reckon that they are recruiting a number of trainees and not just 1 trainee ?

I would say more than 1

Diamond_Hands

For those training with big firms: does anybody have any advice of how one should go about with picking rotations?

Hamerzan Sickles

If the Matheson deadline is the third, does that mean we need to submit our application by midnight tonight or midnight tomorrow?

AA247

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

If the Matheson deadline is the third, does that mean we need to submit our application by midnight tonight or midnight tomorrow?

I always struggle with that 😅 it’s 23.59 tomorrow though, I got an email reminder to finish it.

Spent hours on it today and then got to the ‘tell me about something you know...’ question and honestly feel like just giving up now....

lawgrad49

Has anyone secured or at least know of someone who secured a TC with one of the Top 10/Top 15 firms without first being an intern?

Curious to know as I have 4/5 friends who are a bit older than me who are training/qualified into the Big 5 and all were either an intern or working as a legal exec/sec in the firm before they got their interview for the TC.

NewFe1

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Has anyone secured or at least know of someone who secured a TC with one of the Top 10/Top 15 firms without first being an intern?

Curious to know as I have 4/5 friends who are a bit older than me who are training/qualified into the Big 5 and all were either an intern or working as a legal exec/sec in the firm before they got their interview for the TC.

I did and I've never done an internship.

FE1Hopefully1

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Has anyone secured or at least know of someone who secured a TC with one of the Top 10/Top 15 firms without first being an intern?

Curious to know as I have 4/5 friends who are a bit older than me who are training/qualified into the Big 5 and all were either an intern or working as a legal exec/sec in the firm before they got their interview for the TC.

I personally don’t know anyone - a lot hire from the intern group the only firm I know that doesn’t is Fieldfisher !

Diamond_Hands

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Has anyone secured or at least know of someone who secured a TC with one of the Top 10/Top 15 firms without first being an intern?

Curious to know as I have 4/5 friends who are a bit older than me who are training/qualified into the Big 5 and all were either an intern or working as a legal exec/sec in the firm before they got their interview for the TC.

I have a training contract with A&L and I haven't worked with them before. But I have interned at most of the other big 5. But you make a good point that most TCs at big firms are now being handed out to previous summer interns.

Corplawtrainee

Yeah same, got offered a direct TC at A&L but interned at some of the other big 5 firms. I don’t think you need to get on a formal summer programme, but definitely would help to have some legal experience at a firm of a similar caliber.

lawgrad49

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

I have a training contract with A&L and I haven't worked with them before. But I have interned at most of the other big 5. But you make a good point that most TCs at big firms are now being handed out to previous summer interns.

Yeah it's just a trend I've noticed and wondered was it unique to my friend group because we were all Law students so naturally many interned during college or straight after we graduated. I just never bothered my ass interning because I was working in retail etc and since Uni I've been in a non-legal role but still within professional services.

Good to see a poster above didn't intern anyway, because I don't see myself being fit to do that.