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Aoibheann Ni Shuilleabhain Harassment Story

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    #152
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Zarco wrote: »
    I'd say the ratio would be like 100 to 1 female to male

    Will ya stop with that nonsense.
    One in five women reported experiencing sexual harassment in their workplace, compared to just 12pc of men.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/in-the-workplace/revealed-one-in-five-women-is-harassed-in-workplace-37614713.html


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    #153
    1641
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    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    The sole purpose of HR is to protect the company. Anything to do with employee welfare is merely incidental.


    The two are far from mutually exclusive. Ignoring employee welfare can lead to the labour court, industrial action, extended sick leave, etc. etc. That is before even getting to productivity. How effectively any HR dept performs its role is another matter.


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    #154
    Zarco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Zarco


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Will ya stop with that nonsense.



    https://www.independent.ie/business/in-the-workplace/revealed-one-in-five-women-is-harassed-in-workplace-37614713.html

    I meant the incidences of harassment

    Sorry should have made that clear


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    #155
    Errashareesh
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    Wombatman wrote: »
    Reading this thread you would think the problem is exclusively a 'women's issue'.
    Why? Nobody is implying that. This thread is about a woman being harassed. Discussion of this and the situation in general for other women is not a lack of acknowledgement that men can get harassed also.


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    #156
    CageWager
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    Wombatman wrote: »
    Reading this thread you would think the problem is exclusively a 'women's issue'.

    There is always going to be a difference between a man stalking a woman and a woman stalking a man.

    If I worked in UCD and some female lecturer kept making unwanted advances, following me around and generally being a creep, I would find it annoying and I would potentially report it but I would not feel any fear because she is highly unlikely/incapable of doing me any physical harm.

    If I was a women working in UCD and some weirdo knew my car/where I lived etc. I would be terrified. IMO its not just some kind of nuisance behaviour - its psychological abuse.


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    #157
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    -10 points. You can't use the same joke twice in the one thread.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114542296&postcount=50

    Well policed.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #158
    Man Vs ManUre
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    Why didn’t Tubridy give your’ man a good beating??


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    #159
    IAMAMORON
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    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    Why didn’t Tubridy give your’ man a good beating??

    Been thinking that myself.

    Lightweight altogether.


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    #160
    Tork
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    Why would Tubridy have gone to beat up his ex girlfriend's stalker? They were broken up before any of this started.


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    #161
    Errashareesh
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    I don't particularly like Ryan Tubridy as a broadcaster much of the time but what's the bad mouthing him here for?


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    #162
    Tork
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    Errashareesh wrote: »
    I don't particularly like Ryan Tubridy as a broadcaster much of the time but what's the bad mouthing him here for?

    It's an excuse to badmouth him, isn't it? (I'm not a fan of his either btw)


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    #163
    IAMAMORON
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    Tork wrote: »
    Why would Tubridy have gone to beat up his ex girlfriend's stalker? They were broken up before any of this started.
    Errashareesh wrote: »
    I don't particularly like Ryan Tubridy as a broadcaster much of the time but what's the bad mouthing him here for?

    We are ripping the piss in all fairness.

    I doubt he would be jeopardising his RTE pension by heading over across the N11 for a straightener.... all things considered.


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    #164
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,825 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Anyone who has worked at UCD and dealt with their absolutely farcical HR department will be completely unsurprised by this story. A greater bastion of hole-scratching indifference you'll never find. It's actually pretty difficult to decipher what they even do. This story answers the question emphatically: nothing. Another arm of the bloated bureaucracy of that institution.

    For the record: I did my PhD there, and worked as a visiting assistant professor. In so very many ways out was the worst place I worked in my academic career. But this story is a step beyond anything I witnessed by far.


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    #165
    Zarco
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    Why didn't tubridy deal with this at the outset

    Man to man and put a stop to it?


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    #166
    eviltwin
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    Zarco wrote: »
    Why didn't tubridy deal with this at the outset

    Man to man and put a stop to it?

    Not sure her husband would have been okay with that


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    #167
    paw patrol
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    We are ripping the piss in all fairness.

    I doubt he would be jeopardising his RTE pension by heading over across the N11 for a straightener.... all things considered.


    He doesn't have an RTE pension cos he isn't RTE staff - he doesn't actually work for RTE ...he has a pension (assume he has one) from his own company.


    his salary however....


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    #168
    BattleCorp
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    It's not much of a penalty for harrassing someone for two years.

    He has to stay away from her for 5 years and then he's free to make contact again? :confused::confused::confused:


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    #169
    Zarco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Zarco


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It's not much of a penalty for harrassing someone for two years.

    He has to stay away from her for 5 years and then he's free to make contact again? :confused::confused::confused:

    In 5 yrs time he will prob have forgotten about her


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    #170
    irishblessing
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    Zarco wrote: »
    In 5 yrs time he will prob have forgotten about her

    Doubtful. The whole country knows what he done now and will haunt him for at least the rest of his career. She was very brave to speak up.


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    #171
    BattleCorp
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    irishblessing wrote: »
    Doubtful. The whole country knows what he done now and will haunt him for at least the rest of his career. She was very brave to speak up.

    Sometimes when I see celebs claiming harrassment, mental health issues etc. I'm very sceptical but looking at what she went through, I've a lot of respect for her now.

    Hopefully it does haunt him for the rest of his career.

    Shocking that UCD didn't seem to get the finger out and sort it out pronto.


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    #172
    walshb
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Sometimes when I see celebs claiming harrassment, mental health issues etc. I'm very sceptical but looking at what she went through, I've a lot of respect for her now.

    Hopefully it does haunt him for the rest of his career.

    Shocking that UCD didn't seem to get the finger out and sort it out pronto.

    I made a similar point earlier. There are just so many these Z list trash celebs that would sell their fooking mother for the limelight..

    Aoibheann is not remotely like this..She’s a well educated lady.


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    #173
    Zarco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Zarco


    walshb wrote: »
    I made a similar point earlier. There are just so many these Z list trash celebs that would sell their fooking mother for the limelight..

    Aoibheann is not remotely like this..She’s a well educated lady.

    And neither are you Walshb

    Trashy ? Never


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    #174
    StevenToast
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    Errashareesh wrote: »
    I don't particularly like Ryan Tubridy as a broadcaster much of the time but what's the bad mouthing him here for?

    Unfortunately for Aoibheann, being an ex of Tubs will hang around her like a UCD professor for a long time....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #175
    skooterblue2
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    smurgen wrote: »
    Didn't realize that. He's still currently linked as professor on LinkedIn.

    Linkedin Profile is gone.


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    #176
    Tork
    Registered Users Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭Tork


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Linkedin Profile is gone.

    He's ruined. Time to move abroad to a country where they're not too fussed about harassment of women.


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    #177
    BattleCorp
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    Tork wrote: »
    He's ruined. Time to move abroad to a country where they're not too fussed about harassment of women.

    T'will be hard for him to stay around here for sure.


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    #178
    bureau2009
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    Carefully note that Aoibheann only got an apology from the President of UCD *after* the Irish Times write-up.


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    #179
    Zarco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Zarco


    bureau2009 wrote: »
    Carefully note that Aoibheann only got an apology from the President of UCD *after* the Irish Times write-up.

    That's a sickener doubly

    1. For him to apologize after it went public

    2. And for him to announce the apology before contacting her


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    #180
    skooterblue2
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    Tork wrote: »
    He's ruined. Time to move abroad to a country where they're not too fussed about harassment of women.

    He will get work again but maybe not in Europe. Or he could working for private industry.


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    #181
    Realt Dearg Sec
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    Zarco wrote: »
    That's a sickener doubly

    1. For him to apologize after it went public

    2. And for him to announce the apology before contacting her

    It is revealing of their priorities: he's only apologising as PR damage limitation, so it makes perfect sense that the first port of call is the media and the actual person who is owed an apology comes considerably later.

    That, in fact, is UCD in a nutshell. Earlier this year I was on LinkedIn and saw UCD were touting the fact that they had returned to the top 100 in the works University rankings. Those rankings are an absolute cod that privilege nonsense like branding over academic integrity, reward high profile PR accomplishments over consistent research support, and directly fuel administrative bloating while front line teaching is gutted. Which I mentioned in reply. Within minutes I had an army of people with absurd titles like vice assistant provost for student life, and academic director of embiggening research development, all having a look at my profile. Plenty of time on their hands.

    My point being these kinds of vultures are everywhere in UCD, and their intentions have nothing to do with protecting professors and ensuring their position is valued, and everything to do with advancing the University as a brand. This story is the logical conclusion of how business is done at UCD.


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