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Crimes that have stayed with you for years

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,971 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Wayne O'Donoghue was the fella who killed little Robert Holohan and then joined the search. Knowing full well he had left hos body in a ditch to rot.

    He has been out for years.

    Wrong.

    He didn't mean to kill him though, he was heavy handed with the kid he panicked and made it worse. He got a very light sentence but it was a sad case for all involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    rob316 wrote: »
    He didn't mean to kill him though, he was heavy handed with the kid he panicked and made it worse. He got a very light sentence but it was a sad case for all involved.

    He threw his body in a ditch and hid the fact for days even joining the search.

    He got 3 years.

    That's wrong. That's not a fit punishment for the crime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    The best of them all is the farmer in Tipperary.

    That had us all enthralled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,208 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Not sure about what you are referring to, a link would be good.

    In fairness, most of this stuff is caused by men. Remember the murder of an entire family in Cavan I think, by the husband. He was exhumed in the end and buried elsewhere. And the bloke who killed his two sons and drove away with them.

    It is easy to forget all these things, and the common denominator is men, much as I wish it were otherwise.

    This is the case.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/mother-of-three-mcginley-children-to-appear-in-court-1.4154457


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,971 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    He threw his body in a ditch and hid the fact for days even joining the search.

    He got 3 years.

    That's wrong. That's not a fit punishment for the crime.

    They were friends, the kid was throwing stones at his car, he grabbed by the neck, held him too long and he died. He never meant to kill him it was an accident, he panicked and made a terrible mistake.

    I don't think it fits the thread title though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Literally a female robert hawe

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-51302107


    The fathers speech at the funeral,would shake even the hardest person

    I know, it was heart wrenching altogether. Don't know how the Dad will cope at all.

    But my point still stands. Women who kill their children is a very rare statistic compared to men who do the same and kill their spouses/partners also. Awful.

    The maternal instinct is something else. When it breaks down the mother is usually ill.

    Wonder if there is such a thing as a Paternal Instinct, or is it just control.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    rob316 wrote: »
    They were friends, the kid was throwing stones at his car, he grabbed by the neck, held him too long and he died. He never meant to kill him it was an accident, he panicked and made a terrible mistake.

    I don't think it fits the thread title though.

    I think it does. It was shocking at the time and ill bever forget his poor mother. He tried to get away with it. Simple as that. Some leading experts in their field have go on to say that they think oDonoghue amd the crime was cold and calculated and he was in full control at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Pelezico wrote: »
    The best of them all is the farmer in Tipperary.

    That had us all enthralled.

    Yes it was a tragic case, but the surrounding information about it was jaw dropping. Imagine that, in rural Ireland all the same!

    Mad stuff, with due respect to the deceased person of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭ScallionAyter


    The attack on Guido Nasi.

    The bald little rhodent who hit him with a bottle is on Facebook, playing some Thug Life game incessantly and a 'only god can judge me' banner on one of his photos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The courts are full of this. There is only so much we can remember now, but the families will live with these atrocities forever, together with a light enough sentence for the perpetrators which is in general par for the course.

    I honestly do not know how I personally would cope with someone who is released after a couple of years having murdered my loved one. That must be devastating for victim's families.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,208 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Yes it was a tragic case, but the surrounding information about it was jaw dropping. Imagine that, in rural Ireland all the same!

    Mad stuff, with due respect to the deceased person of course.

    When I was at college the guy was missing and the gossip about it was massive from the Tipp people.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Anyone remember the Vicki Whelan case?

    She worked at one of the chippers in Rathfarnham Village. I used to know her to see.

    https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I+SHOT+SLEEPING+FRANCO%3B+Girl+lodger+of+15+confessed+but+wife+was...-a060677724

    That's the only account of what happened I can find.


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    The murder of Patricia Furlong by Vinnie Connell at a festival.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4 Noeleff


    Ebba Aekerlund.
    My own child was the same age as Ebba at the time. And only had partial hearing same as Ebba. That's why Ebba didn't hear or jump out of the way of the truck. I won't post links or pictures of Ebba cut in half by the truck tyre. It's too terrible because you can see Ebbas breakfast, sjmple bread with cucumber, that came out of her tummy lying on the street. that was cut in half.
    The media cover up was equally if not more offensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    The GUBU murder was remarkable with the murderer hiding out in the AG's house.

    Malcolm McArthur


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    The attack on Guido Nasi.

    The bald little rhodent who hit him with a bottle is on Facebook, playing some Thug Life game incessantly and a 'only god can judge me' banner on one of his photos.

    I remember from the time of the trial seeing a picture of him in one of the papers coming out of court laughing and giving some kind of thumbs up symbol to off picture scrotes (probably family or "supporters"). Utter pond life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    Itssoeasy wrote:
    Well the James burger one because I was eight years old and my youngest brother was born the day before or after it happened so I have a vivid memory of that time. I mean the awfulness of it was because James bulger was really young and also the two lads who killed him weren't that much older than me. I think one of the two has somewhat kept his head down since he was released but the other lad seems to be a mess and was arrested for child porn.


    At the time of the trial robert thompson was seen as the instigator and Jon venables was seen as the more "vulnerable".

    However it apoears thompson has not reoffended unlike venables.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    rob316 wrote:
    He didn't mean to kill him though, he was heavy handed with the kid he panicked and made it worse. He got a very light sentence but it was a sad case for all involved.


    Didn't Robert's mother make allegations in her victim impact statement of o donoghues semen being found on the body?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,245 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    The James Bulger case really stuck with me - just recently read his mother’s book, it’s heartbreaking.

    Rachel O’ Reilly - poor girl had a horrific death at the hands of that bastard.

    The Graham Dwyer case - just sick.

    All the familicides, as they call them, are just horrible - there’s been far too many in Ireland. Remember the one of the couple and their 3 children in Wexford - the father had picked out their coffins and all the week before.

    The Alan Hawe case was sickening - such violence.

    The missing person cases are intriguing really; I guess we assume that some sort of crime has been committed, it isn’t always the case, sometimes I think people just want to go missing or maybe take their own lives.
    There’s a very strange case of a couple in their 60’s from Fermoy who went missing without a trace in 1991 and were never found - it’s very sad really for their family; their car was gone but everything else was left, no travel documents taken or anything. Car has never been found.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    When I was at college the guy was missing and the gossip about it was massive from the Tipp people.

    I suppose locally it is a big issue, but elsewhere it is forgotten now.

    With due respect to the deceased person it had every element of jealousy or whatever word you would ascribe to it.

    All forgotten now. Sad isn't it when you think about it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    Pelezico wrote:
    The best of them all is the farmer in Tipperary.

    Pelezico wrote:
    That had us all enthralled.


    What happened here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Pelezico wrote: »
    The GUBU murder was remarkable with the murderer hiding out in the AG's house.

    Malcolm McArthur

    Yep, that was a strange one for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    What happened here?

    Was that the love triangle silage pit one?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    The toolbox killers in California. Phucking disgusting animals.

    They recorded torturing their victims( audio recordings), people left the court room vomiting when the recordings were replayed in court.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Bittaker_and_Roy_Norris

    Don't bother reading or looking into these bastards if you get queasy, not worth it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    What happened here?

    The farmer murdered his lovers lover and buried the body in a slurry pit.

    It had the whole country talking. We loved the daily updates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,088 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    The killings by Mark Nash in 1997 were very weird and random. So he and his girlfriend take a trip to rural Roscommon where her sister lived with her young husband, all in their late 20s. They spend the evening drinking spirits and smoking marijuana. Later that night Nash is sick, then after he attacks the 2 women in an upstairs bedroom. Then he goes downstairs, where the husband is asleep on the sofa. Nash takes a knife from the kitchen and stabs him multiple times. All while Nash and his bird had 2 young kids with them upstairs sleeping. He then takes off on a bike in the middle of the night and starts cycling to Galway. His girlfriend just about survives but the other 2 die, she raises the alarm and he is caught the next day.
    Years later or sometime while in custody, he admits to carrying out a random killing of 2 elderly women in Dublin. He breaks into a house or something after another drinking session, and decides to kill the 2 defenceless old women in the house. I think he even says that they were sleeping and the voices in his head made him do it.
    I heard he is also suspected of a killing in Huddersfield, England while he was living there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Pelezico wrote: »
    The farmer murdered his lovers lover and buried the body in a slurry pit.

    It had the whole country talking. We loved the daily updates.

    To be fair the names are totally forgotten now, well at least for me. Just goes to show doesn't it.

    Can anyone name them without googling? I doubt it, TBH


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    To be fair the names are totally forgotten now, well at least for me. Just goes to show doesn't it.

    Can anyone name them without googling? I doubt it, TBH

    It was entertainment for the masses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    TheW1zard wrote:
    Was that the love triangle silage pit one?

    Pelezico wrote:
    The farmer murdered his lovers lover and buried the body in a slurry pit.

    Pelezico wrote:
    It had the whole country talking. We loved the daily updates.


    Ah yes i remember now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,876 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    All male perps again. Can you blame me for this thought?


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