Crimes that have stayed with you for years

freshpopcorn

partyguinness wrote: »

I was more surprised that a circa 100 acre farm in Kanturk could be worth €2m.

It must have some amount of frontage.

First they said it was 150 acres, them they said it was 177 acres and now it's 115 acres. They value male be slightly hyped up I'd say.

McGinniesta

There can only be one.

The September 11 attacks.

jillette

Lundstram wrote: »

Phyllis Murphy - Yet another Kildare person who vanished in 1979, her body was found a month later. Her killer was eventually caught in 1998 when DNA became a thing. The fcuking scumbag is out now. There's a great documentary of this on Youtube which was just recently uploaded.

Do you have a link to the youtube?

2smiggy

freshpopcorn wrote: »

First they said it was 150 acres, them they said it was 177 acres and now it's 115 acres. They value male be slightly hyped up I'd say.

lots of good tillage land that side of kanturk, it's when you go to the kerry side of the town it starts getting worse. The father would have had a smaller bit of land and house a few miles away ... the larger part was from the mothers side of the family.

E mac

Dunblane sticks in my mind. My brother worked there a few years ago it still casts a shadow in the area

freshpopcorn

2smiggy wrote: »

lots of good tillage land that side of kanturk, it's when you go to the kerry side of the town it starts getting worse. The father would have had a smaller bit of land and house a few miles away ... the larger part was from the mothers side of the family.

Ya, I heard that also. My aunt lives not a million miles away am she had the story fairly exact thats being reported now.

w/s/p/c/

Mentioned numerous times, but Trevor Deely's disappearance will always stick with me. I started working in financial services myself a couple of years after he went missing and my late mother used to always tell me not to get too drunk on work nights out and watch myself coming home if I had a few drinks, she would always reference him.

The Mark Nash Dublin murders is one too. I am from Dublin 7 not too far from where the tragedy occurred. I had an after school delivery job back then and would make deliveries to the hospital in Grangegorman and the houses where patients stayed. I remember driving by in the van regularly looking at the forensics guys going in and out with the house taped off etc, thinking it was like something out of a movie. Was glad to see that house knocked down eventually.

weldoninhio

Shirley Turner.

Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father.

What a psychopath. If you haven't heard of it, i'd recommend watching the documentary, its on Youtube I believe, before reading up on it. It's a kick right in the stones at the end. I seen it years ago and didn't know anything about it. The ending winded me.

Realtai

For some reason, It's Philip Cairns. I was about 6 years old when he disappeared, it was the first time I realised that children could go missing.
Even now, I still think about him every now and then.

Schindlers Pissed

A very interesting thread, thanks for the heads up on the Mens Rea podcasts, I've already listened to a couple of them. Regarding crimes that stick with you, I never heard of that poor Japanese girl until now....that was pure depraved treatment of a fellow human being. We can only begin to imagine what she had gone through. Sometimes it's hard to fathom how people can do what they do.

That Peter Scully paedophile.....wouldn't you enjoy giving him some justice?

As regards Irish crimes, I've attended a few strange ones that will stick with me. I went to several farm buildings on fire one night, with a murdered male in the farmhouse. Turns out his own brother in law set fire to the farm, shot him, then went home and hung himself in the garage.

I was at another where we went to a "fall". As I was treating the casualty the person who committed the murder was standing behind me with the murder weapon (a spade handle)...I regard that as a lucky escape for me.

I was at a call once where a sexual deviant ripped the uterus of a female where a consultant said in court "the nearest I've seen such injuries was where I treated females in West Africa who had been raped with a machete".....

coinop

Mackenzie Lueck, a 23-year-old Mormon and student at the University of Utah, was reported missing and her bound, burned, and buried remains were later discovered. Ayoola Ajayi, 31, was arrested and charged with Lueck's kidnapping and murder. He pleaded guilty to Lueck's murder and was subsequently sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Ajayi and Lueck met in 2018 on a dating website called Seeking Arrangements, which represents itself as a platform for "sugar daddies" and "sugar babies" to meet. According to a contractor, in April 2019, Ajayi asked him to build a secret soundproofed room under the front porch with head-height hooks on the wall and a fingerprint scanner for entry. Ajayi claimed that he wanted to hide alcohol from his Mormon girlfriend. The contractor was uncomfortable with the request and turned it down. A cleaner separately said that she noticed a lot of cameras in Ajayi's home, especially in the master bedroom. Prior to murdering Lueck, Ajayi sexually assaulted a woman who he had met on a dating app and invited to his residence. On March 10, 2018, Ajayi invited the woman into his home. While they watched TV on his couch he began “intensely” kissing the victim and trying to inappropriately and forcefully touch her. When she tried to get away, Ajayi pinned her down and bit her at least three times, causing "significant pain" and leaving "bruising and bite marks."

Young people have become too trusting with dating app culture and meeting strangers from the internet. Please retain common sense and always tell someone when you plan to meet an internet stranger.

anonymo203

I have just come across this thread and there’s definitely a few cases that will always stay with me and I often think about.

One of the more recent cases is that of Aisling Murphy who was just out for a run. I think that will remain in the public conscious for a long time to come. Also, the murder of Sarah Everard in London. The details are haunting. I can’t imagine what she went through, especially as he was a police officer, you would automatically think you would be safe with someone in that position. Both cases happened within a short timeframe of each other and are not at all that long ago.

Similar cases that I often think of include Karen Buckley in Glasgow, Nicola Furlong in Japan, Jill Meagher and Michaela McAreavey. Being a young Irish woman who lives abroad they definitely had an impact on me. There was something about Karen Buckley that always made me feel like I knew her. Another extremely haunting case, I remember clearly her parents appeal and crying watching it.

I was the same age as Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 and can vividly remember the news reports and the newspapers. It was huge at the time. I still think of them every now and again.

Being from Kerry originally the Kerry Baby case. I wasn’t born when it happened but have heard of it throughout the years. I think it’s a story that’s always remained with my parents generation and older. Its quite chilling to think an innocent little baby boy met such a horrendous end and washed up on the beach in such a beautiful part of the country. How could anyone do that to a newborn baby. Poor little boy. Which also reminds me of the Lucy Letby case only a few months ago. What a complete psychopath. Truly evil.

It’s amazing how certain cases can resonate with you and remain with you for years to come for whatever reason. May all the innocent victims rest in peace and their families and loved ones find closure.

Paul_Crosby

When the UDA raped a woman in front of her special needs 14 hear old son then shot him in front of her, they shot her too but survived

Paul_Crosby

The child that washed up mutilated in the Lagan, believed to be a victim of John McKeag the beast of Kincora (and Red Hand Commander founder, and informer)

The UVF man who took pity on the kid they were about to torture he opened a window and said run for it kid. But being in a loyalist area he was lost and knocked on on a door, A woman brought him in and cleaned out his wounds, before calling her dsughter, who showed up with her UDA boyfriend. He didn't survive the night

_CreeD_

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x2 - Citations?

20silkcut

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Yes the full horror was not revealed by the wide angle news camera shots that were live on our tv’s at the time. And the guarded speculation avoiding commentary by the newscasters.

I have seen countless videos since that reveal the true horrifying human suffering of that day in graphic detail.

Nearly as many people killed in an hour and a half as the entire 25/30 years of the troubles in Northern Ireland.

it truly was the standout horrific event of our lifetimes.

nacho libre

The murder of Lesley Molseed. Poor Stefan who did sixteen years for a crime he did not commit. I read a book a while back about homicide in Ireland and the impact on those left behind. So many harrowing stories- from the girl who returned to live in Cork from London, to the kind shopkeeper murdered in Kildare. It's a travesty the people responsible for those murders are not locked behind bars for life. I think one of them is already out? Imagine the stress for the families of ever running into those scum on the outside.

Paul_Crosby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121814439#Comment_121814439

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/god-forgives-me-for-raping-woman-and-shooting-her-disabled-son-says-uda-killer-hinton/30569606.html

He preaches in Belfast city centre now

Eoinbmw

When I first learned in school about Hiroshima and Nagasaki my young mind could not compute the great superpower the USA could single handedly inflict such death and destruction on innocent civilians!

Bobson Dugnutt

Paul Quinn being abducted and tortured to death in a shed in Monaghan. Every major bone in his body broken below his neck. Beaten for up to an hour with nail studded bats. Up to 14 people involved. Only 21 years old. The savagery of it all. The silence from people who know what happened.

So grim. May the people who did it never know true peace. May it haunt them.

Photobox

James Bolger, I know it's been mentioned already more than likely. The CCtv image of the poor innocent toddler being led away like that. No words for it. Truly horrific.

Paul_Crosby

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Paul_Crosby

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Haunt the South Armagh Brigade?? Paul Quinn started trying to muscle in on Brigade turf thinking the Good Friday Agreement would protect him, he leaned over the backseat of a taxi and attacked the son of a well known psycho Provo, he sucker punched another well up guy and then startednputting it up to guys in the street , guys who killed people during the troubles , dangerous dangerous men who still had rackets to protect, Quinn tried to "muscle" in on those rackets. The reason you hear about Paul Quinn "standing up for himself, wouldn't back down from the bullies" it meant he was threatening some of the most dangerous people on the island in the middle of the street, and physically attacking some of them when they weren't looking.

These are the boys who murdered Eamon Collins by stabbing him 33 times in the face

He picked a fight with monsters and that's why his death was so monstrous, that's why the death was so savage and so personal, because it was personal, Paul Quinn was a small time gangster who messed with experienced terrorists, he wasn't abducted, he showed up thinking he was going to have a fight with the kid he punched. A sorry story but Paul Quinn's portrayal as anything more than the thug he was himself gets boring after a while, harsh but true

Quinn was threatening men who had committed murder before he was born, he was only 21,and it showed

Overheal

Eddie Halvey. Piss drunk driving double the speed limit and slamming into a car on the side of the road, killing a teenager. 7 months suspended.

Hangdogroad

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I utterly despise these "only God can judge me" Born Again Christians, a lot of whom "find God" in jail.

Paul_Crosby

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"Off you go and sin no more!" Used to be a running joke, If you had a penny for every born again Christian who was a loyalist serial killer, well you'd have a lot of pennies, it was a way to try and get out of jail too

Panthro

Brendan O'Donnell killing a mother, a toddler and a priest back in 1994.

Christ that's knocking on 30yrs ago.

NIMAN

Some of the more recent familicides in this country I find hard to listen to.

Do they seem to be on the increase or did it always happen?

Another one today of a guy killing his dad.

But recently we had a guy battling the head off his mother, and worst of all those people who murder their own kids.

There are some severely damaged people walking around in our midst. We don't know how close some of them are to cracking.

Jequ0n

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They were children themselves in all fairness.

Paul_Crosby

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That's what made it scary, the descriptions of Venables by the adults who first met him are chilling to the bone

"Cold, lifeless, nothing in his eyes, he stuck his middle finger up against the partition window, I had to say this was the most evil child I've ever met"

the other kid (Robert something for googling it) was a compulsive liar and obviously a nutcase himself but he showed fear, emotion at the gravity of the situation, and claimed Venebles scared him and madehim do it. Now all killers say this right?? Bit these are children we're talking about, it's known that Venebles has consumed child pornography in prison, is that a sign that he was sexually abused?? That he never grew up from the day he murdered James Bulger, and may still be a psychotic child since that's when he was incarcerated

the other kid never reoffended after he got released with anonymous name, Venebles was found with child open and all sorts, would probably desecrate and kill a kid of he were released, I don't think Venebles is reformable

Edit: Robert Thompson was the other kid