Are there any credible conspiracy theories?

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651353#Comment_119651353

Surely you can find papers about lab leeks. Leeks have been a culinary delight for many people.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651387#Comment_119651387

You can find papers as to why it looks like a lab leek & as to why it doesn't look like nature,

But a lab leek is like a break in if you will ,you need actually physically evidence , The 2 year hold up from China means i don't think we will ever confirm what happened,

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651403#Comment_119651403

They have built a block of skyscrapers faster than two years.

I'm sure if there was any evidence of a lab leak it's incinerated.

robinph

So in conclusion, the best conspiracies that theorists have for credible one's are 9/11 being caused by super secret nazis, or covid being a lab leak which the EU is behind keeping it secret.

All the while they seem to have missed a conspiracy to defraud NY authorities of money that was carried out by a former US president.

So there are no credible theories from CTers, but plenty of conspiracies happening around them which they are oblivious to for some reason.

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651403#Comment_119651403

Whoosh. The joke went right over your head. To help you get it, a ‘leek’ is a food. The word you are looking for is ‘leak’.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651483#Comment_119651483

If there obvious are they conspiracy's ? 😂

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651468#Comment_119651468

Or maybe there was no evidence.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651483#Comment_119651483

It's usually a case of them not liking the government, China, health experts or pointy headed elite experts in general. Then an event happens and as everything that happens has to revolve around their outlook on life, they then shoe horn these people into the event in some ridiculous game of mad libs.

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651550#Comment_119651550

Who would have thought that we'd be adding the word "conspiracy" to the list of words that are not understood around here?

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651697#Comment_119651697

I'm joking

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119651552#Comment_119651552

How could there be evidence if it was a lab leak or not. If it's covered in concrete and all the paperwork is burnt. The evidence is gone, that's of course if it was a lab leak.

We don't know yet.

Tonesjones

The WHO themselves said as recently as June that a lab theory can't be ruled out.

Are they conspiracy theorists too

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119652162#Comment_119652162

I was countering the argument that it was a lab leak. We don’t know for sure, but that doesn’t stop people claiming that it was.

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119652211#Comment_119652211

No, because they are not also suggesting that the details are being suppressed because the likes of the EU might stop funding other labs or that it was planned all along by some shaddowy group.

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119652298#Comment_119652298

There's no point in claiming anything until there's definitive proof. It's a conspiracy at the moment, but then again so are other options until they find out the truth.

Sometimes I just want to **** off to a self sufficient community and get away from it all. Nobody's stopping me, but there's going to be someone in charge and I'd be clashing head's with the bastard. Oppositional to the last, FFS will I ever tow the line Tao .

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119652211#Comment_119652211

"It's not unusual" for there to be a conspiracy theorist within the who too.

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119653826#Comment_119653826

They also aren't basing their opinions and conclusions of things they see on youtube and read on twitter.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119654143#Comment_119654143

There's no point in claiming anything until there's definitive proof.

The most ironic post ever made on the conspiracy theory forum

LOL

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119654429#Comment_119654429

Like a free ride when you've already paid, yeah I get ya:)

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119654155#Comment_119654155

Huh?

2 for 3 spacewalks

bad2thebone

Tom Jones, it's not unusual....

Just a bit of banter, that's all

"You can't claim anything until there's definitive proof" followed by an unproven claim that the WHO contains CTists.

On the wind up, lads.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119652298#Comment_119652298

The first cases in Wuhan didn't happen at the Huanan seamarket, but rather were spread by people who already had the disease and visited the market. It's well known if you did a little research. 

If a leak occurs from a Chinese laboratory, it will probably be covered up anyway, they cannot contain it and they are unlikely to admit that something went wrong. China may face legal action if they admit the truth. Covid 19 went global, making a big mess for them. 

There are those in disease science who believe Covid 19 is due to a Zoonotic origin. Speculate on this. Since it was reported early on that bats not sold in this market, they started speculating on the crossover animal. There hasn't been one crossover animal sold at on the market has tested positive for COVID 19.  

The lab leak makes sense. They were messing around with bats and taking samples to store. It's not crazy that some lab scientists engineered covid 19 samples to see how it would perform if spread in humans and find a cure for that. It's always a risk, but don't think we're claiming a lab leak is sinister. Maybe it was bad controls, or some equipment went bad, or sloppy human handling.  

JL555

Might already have been mentioned on here but those Covid camps in Australia for the non vaccinated were considered the paranoid ravings of conspiracy nuts until,...... it was discovered that they did indeed exist.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119644549#Comment_119644549

The collapse is in dispute, so we have a right to speculate about who did it. In some schools, basic outlines of what happened with the official narratives are taught. The mechanisms of the building seven collapse haven't been studied by any school or university, find one,show the link and studies done? Don't you find it strange that we have never studied the first time a fire has destroyed a tall steel frame building in history?

You need to do a serious investigation if the progressive collapse scenario turns out to be faulty. Just because it's an official study doesn't mean it's true. Truthers even have the blueprints that show NIST deliberately removed shear studs and stiffeners plates from the girder that came off its seat and collapsed the floors. It would all be solved if there was an honest debate in court, and both sides could show their evidence. 

Even though we have celebrity show trials on TV, it's hard to get a deeper understanding of big things in history. Just from an engineering standpoint, don't believe the conspiracy angle fine, but it would be nice to get both sides in the same room and see who has the best arguments for why seven collapsed. 

The mess NIST made here actually supports the theory that some groups knew 9/11 was coming and preplanned to destroy buildings and use it for their agenda. Fact went to such great lengths to get the building collapsed, lied about it, and invented something new like no one's ever done before. Remember, this is the first failure in history to happen the way NIST claims, so if you're caught lying about the engineering and freefall, you're not telling the truth. 

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119657174#Comment_119657174

Right, in your personal conspiracy, who planted the bombs? the Nazis, the Jews, the Arabs..

According to me, secret bombs were planted by.. *spins wheel*.. migrant workers, can you prove they didn't? Do you have video evidence from the buildings to prove it wasn't migrant workers planting the stuff during off office hours?

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119657251#Comment_119657251

In all honesty, I don't know. Since I believe there is a good case for controlled demolition least for building seven, the people involved would have to have had access to it seven weeks before 9/11. 

In the case of the towers, who could have brought in some military grade nanothermite and placed it around the steel to do its thing at top of towers? For terrorists in Afghanistan wearing 2000 year old clothes, that's pretty sophisticated material. Who use the events later neocons and Isreal ( there suspects)

 You gotta keep an open mind on it. Still on page fire caused the collapse, so suspect speculation isn't something you consider. 

Since the country wasn't in panic mode on 9/11, I don't see why this is a crazy theory. We know the mainstream accepts this first time in history fire managed to bring down a steel framed building. If the official study is messing up here, it means they're trying to hide something deeper. NIST might have been scared to think about that after 9/11 with all the nationalism around the terrorist attack. Is it better to lie and walk away than bring up controlled demolition and scare people? 

  

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119657499#Comment_119657499

Since I believe there is a good case for controlled demolition least for building seven, the people involved would have to have had access to it seven weeks before 9/11. 

This is called appeal to motive. You've started with this and worked backwards to create a story to fit your motive. It's how most conspiracy theories work.

I don't see why this is a crazy theory

Neither do those who think holographic planes or mini-nukes or "secret silent explosives" blowing up buildings in the middle of NY were involved.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119657534#Comment_119657534

There's something to the nanothermite theory because workers on site reported extreme temperatures under the rubble for weeks and months. It was ignored that the steel fell on top of each other, causing extreme heat? I don't think that adds up, since other buildings partially collapsed and extreme heat pockets never found. 

Streams of yellow/red liquid ran through the rubble. Melting steel caused by a controlled demolition is unlikely. Nanothermite would probably weaken steel connections after that structure unsound?

Millions of iron spheres were in the rubble. Pure iron spheres are made from thermite. Excuses that it came from steel banging are a bit suspect because sparks are caused by that. It was very unusual to see pure iron balls in the dust. Then, at one side of the tower building, there was this yellow liquid pouring out. It was like a foundry melting in that area. 

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119657569#Comment_119657569

Lol but the last time you brought this point up you ran away because you snookered yourself. You posted a study you believed was gospel proof right up until it was pointed out that it showed there was a missing byproduct of a thermite reaction. It proved that your thermite theory was impossible.

Did you just edit that part out of your reality? Or are you just chancing your arm and hoping mo one would remember your embarrassment?