Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

stephenjmcd

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I hate it and the idea of it at all (I like sitting at the bar anyway), though that may be down to the aforementioned pub and it’s snooty little waitresses leaving you sitting. Especially now that they really have the power to.

Yeah I know what you mean. Probably depends on the place. Pre covid I know places where the service was awful and you could be left waiting for a while. Then you've others that ran a good service. Really depends i think on the place itself

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah I know what you mean. Probably depends on the place. Pre covid I know places where the service was awful and you could be left waiting for a while. Then you've others that ran a good service. Really depends i think on the place itself

That said, I was in another place a few weeks ago (I’d completely forgot about it) and even though we were eating outside the staff came by regularly and never went to another table near us without checking if we were ok. They were brilliant. Yeah definitely depends indeed, hopefully some Google/Tripadvisor reviews will start to mention the good and bad ones as it becomes so common.

jt69er

Santy2015 wrote:

So my local opened on Thursday getting food from the chipper 2 doors down. I booked a table for 5.30 yesterday for 2 of us. No bother. All 2 metre spacing between tables so could stay as long you wanted. They gave us a small menu from the chipper and they let us drink away until ready to order so we had about an hour and a half of pints. Then got our pizza and chicken burger and chips. It was okay. It’s just not the same but I will support the bar once every two weeks. Can’t be having takeaway every week. I feel seriously sorry for those pubs that can’t open. I’m not listening to any crap from certain posters saying pubs are open, essentially the “pub†I was in was a restaurant. A pub is a place where you go to have a few pints, no obligation to have food and no limits to your time there. As some might have seen on the news today, mass protests are happening around Europe to stop lockdown and restrictions. We need to live with this virus and get on with our lives. Just another point I’ll make. An old lad came into the bar I was in yesterday, asked could he have a drop and a Guinness and not get food, it was his first time out since early March. You should’ve seen the joy in his face taking that first sip of creamy goodness. It was brilliant to see. He stayed for an hour or so, couple of pints and off he went happy. That’s what it’s about. The loneliness some of the older generations are suffering is chronic. Let’s hope all pubs get to open in a few weeks as this bull can’t keep going on and it’ll lead to excess mortality, it won’t be the virus that kills!!

This post explains the issue perfectly.

questionmark?

HBC08 wrote: »

The whole theory that people change their behaviour after a few pints has been debunked here.
Mr Stuffins still posts the same sh1te even when hes steamed!

That's because he wasn't out. Stuffins was stuck at home alone copying and pasting the same thing over and over.

end of the road

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Yes there are protests all across Europe to stop restrictions and lockdown but look at what happened here when a few thousand people did it. The media has everyone so brainwashed they said "a few hundred far right people" attended the protest. It's just reported in other countries, not here, the news has to have their little say on these "mad conspiracy theorists"... and yes I'm aware there was some elements of conspiracy theorists at these protests but the point being it's time to get back to normal, we're only going backwards.

trying to live with the virus and get back to normal is the whole point of our approach, it is people railing against everything who would be the more likely ones to send us backwards if we go backwards which at the moment we are not going to do.
the media has nobody brainwashed, facts and information cannot be brainwashing by their very nature.
i think we can say that in all probability it is most likely the usual types attending the anti-restriction protests, i'm sure there are a few normals but i have a niggling feeling that they are in a tiny minority.
most people know that governments are not going to change their approach until they are sure they can do so and the protests will achieve nothing.

TomTomTim wrote: »

I've seen people thread banned for far less, yet he's allowed to literally spam the same nonsense over and over again.

because whether people like it or agree with it or not, or whether the experience fits one's personal likes and views or not, he is technically correct.
as i explained before, establishments are set up in different ways and for different purposes for different markets but may have some overlap, especially in this situation due to restrictions.
a food serving pub is not the same as a restaurant, the food serving pub is catering to a different market, those who mostly want to drink but have a bit of food, or someone who just wants to pop in for a drink and a bit of food or just a bit of food, whereas the restaurant is catering to those who want a full sit down meal and maybe a drink.

Suckit

Santy2015 wrote: »

So my local opened on Thursday getting food from the chipper 2 doors down.
I booked a table for 5.30 yesterday for 2 of us. No bother. All 2 metre spacing between tables so could stay as long you wanted. They gave us a small menu from the chipper and they let us drink away until ready to order so we had about an hour and a half of pints. Then got our pizza and chicken burger and chips.
It was okay. It’s just not the same but I will support the bar once every two weeks. Can’t be having takeaway every week.
I feel seriously sorry for those pubs that can’t open.
I’m not listening to any crap from certain posters saying pubs are open, essentially the “pub” I was in was a restaurant.
A pub is a place where you go to have a few pints, no obligation to have food and no limits to your time there.
As some might have seen on the news today, mass protests are happening around Europe to stop lockdown and restrictions. We need to live with this virus and get on with our lives.
Just another point I’ll make. An old lad came into the bar I was in yesterday, asked could he have a drop and a Guinness and not get food, it was his first time out since early March. You should’ve seen the joy in his face taking that first sip of creamy goodness. It was brilliant to see. He stayed for an hour or so, couple of pints and off he went happy. That’s what it’s about. The loneliness some of the older generations are suffering is chronic. Let’s hope all pubs get to open in a few weeks as this bull can’t keep going on and it’ll lead to excess mortality, it won’t be the virus that kills!!

You are missing the point by a bit. I too would like to see all the pubs open, but the reason that 'old lad' can only go into the socially distant pub because they have been told to be careful.
If yesterday was his first time since march, then that was his own choice.. He could have walked in there any time since they have been opened. Most pubs are still looking after their regulars without food too. The reason that he can go in at all is a testament to the guidelines put down by Nphet etc.
Most likely he chose to stay away himself because of the risk involved to his life and decided to weigh it up against 'taking that first sip of creamy goodness'.. :rolleyes: (romanticise much?).

The reason the restrictions are in place, is to slow the virus down from spreading. Everybody is suffering in some ways. But I will say that it has shown largely how poor we are at socialising as a nation unless it's in a pub. The older people are not the only generation suffering. What about the people that have to listen to the whingers that don't seem to understand the effects this virus would have on everything if it was to get out of control?
If this virus gets you, and seemingly has little effect, it will likely weaken your immune system. Not something you really want later in life, or if you were to contract it a second time.
Not something the elderly or vulnerable want to suffer a 1st time.
If half of the pubs have to stay closed, and you can still have your precious pints of goodness then it doesn't matter whether or not you want to listen to anyone about them being open. The facts are there. It's not a bad compromise either if you wanted to look at it from that angle. A lot of people don't want the pubs open at all, so half them open is meeting in the middle.

So you have to buy a meal. It's not that big a deal.

I know one pub owner, and while he is unhappy with having to stay closed, he has agreed to as he understands why. There is a restaurant above him that were doing quite a fair bit of business through his pub before lockdown, so he knows that option is there.

hynesie08

Suckit wrote: »

If yesterday was his first time since march, then that was his own choice.. He could have walked in there any time since they have been opened.

But according to the poster, the pub only opened Thursday.....

The reason the restrictions are in place, is to slow the virus down from spreading.

And yet cases are 10x what they were when they refused to open pubs.

Suckit

hynesie08 wrote: »

But according to the poster, the pub only opened Thursday.....



And yet cases are 10x what they were when they refused to open pubs.

There are plenty of other pubs.

I doubt he is too rural with a chipper providing the food.

Cases are rising mainly because people are becoming more relaxed about it, and many other factors, but they are not 10x what they were.

Irish Aris

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

How are people finding the table service? My closest pub (haven’t been in it during this) was always a disgrace for service when you went for food in normal times so I wouldn’t fancy being able to fit many in. You’d want to be buying in threes. It’s the one part of the whole new setup really putting me off.

The 3 times I went out since "food pubs" (4 different places in total) I liked it, no complaints. For me though it comes naturally: I am from Greece and table service is more common compared to Ireland even in a pub/bar (with no food) setting.

Yesterday was the biggest test for me: me and my best friend booked a table at Sinnotts to watch the Community Shield match between Liverpool and Arsenal. Sinnotts was busy-almost to full capacity, it felt crowded and definitely not 2 meters between tables, more like 1 meter - but in no way uncomfortable. They are well organised, everything is table service and the waiting stuff seems used to it so we didn't have to try hard to find someone and order. They gave us a laminated menu (which we didn't need as we have checked beforehand and knew what we wanted) but there was also an option to scan a code and download the menu. As far as I could see, every table had its own hand sanitiser.
We stayed for 2 hours had our dinner and 2 pints each. No one asked us to leave at 105 minutes (I guess the table we had wasn't booked straight away after us?) but we left anyway as the main reason for going was the football match.

The only criticism I would have is that there is no control on coming and going to the toilet. Very small and when I went there were 3 other people, but there is no queuing outside, everyone was in - it was the only time I felt a bit uncomfortable. Since the whole Covid thing started I carry around my own soap bar and tissues to wash and dry my hands - yesterday they definitely came very handy

To be honest I like this arrangement. I don't mind the food aspect (except for the cost), if I know we go to the pub, I won't eat and have my meal there. I think it was mentioned previously (from Spanish Eyes?) that in other countries pubs/bars would offer you something to nibble on (usually mixed nuts or crisps) and I can confirm that in Greece this would be fairly usual in small bars and pubs (obviously not nightclubs). Based on how that comment was dismissed, I reckon this isn't how we do things in Ireland, but when I moved here I found it strange that there was nothing like that offered and I had to buy my crisps or nuts - I still do to this very day. I should clarify though that I am not a heavy drinker (as I mentioned earlier, yesterday was 2 pints in 2 hours - and that would be my usual pace) so another reason why this new arrangement in pub restaurants works great for me.

Suckit

And they want the pubs open....

https://www.facebook.com/newsalerteire/videos/%EF%B8%8F-killarney-crazy-scenes-from-saturday-night-people-out-partying-on-the-streets-/316423883002063/

Suckit

Irish Aris wrote: »

I think it was mentioned previously (from Spanish Eyes?) that in other countries pubs/bars would offer you something to nibble on (usually mixed nuts or crisps) and I can confirm that in Greece this would be fairly usual in small bars and pubs (obviously not nightclubs). Based on how that comment was dismissed, I reckon this isn't how we do things in Ireland, but when I moved here I found it strange that there was nothing like that offered and I had to buy my crisps or nuts - I still do to this very day.

They did used to do it in Ireland, up until around 2000ish iirc. Some places still do, but wouldn't want that in the current environment.


https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/eat-and-drink/2017/11/how-sanitary-are-communal-bar-snacks
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/hidden-germs-in-our-snacks-7294288.html
https://www.shefinds.com/the-scary-reason-you-should-never-eat-bar-nuts/

PTH2009

Suckit wrote: »

And they want the pubs open....

https://www.facebook.com/newsalerteire/videos/%EF%B8%8F-killarney-crazy-scenes-from-saturday-night-people-out-partying-on-the-streets-/316423883002063/

The people Involved should be held responsible and not the whole country getting punished cause of these idiots

weldoninhio

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Reduced to calling people liars now are we ?


Keep showing yourself up.

If someone lies, they are a liar.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

If someone lies, they are a liar.

Everyone is a liar.

hynesie08

Suckit wrote: »

There are plenty of other pubs.

I doubt he is too rural with a chipper providing the food.

Cases are rising mainly because people are becoming more relaxed about it, and many other factors, but they are not 10x what they were.

When pubs were due to reopen at the end of July, we were getting 9-18 cases a day, now its 90 - 170,its not that far off 10x...

hynesie08

weldoninhio wrote: »

If someone lies, they are a liar.

Let's see what the people who set the regulations say.......


https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/d06271-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-29-june-phase-3/

pubs and hotel bars operating as restaurants

Hmmm........ Seems pretty clear to me......

He is lying

The White Wolf

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

6 or 7 in an hour and three quarters would hardly be a stretch.

Er....Reginald, I think we're all in awe here of your drinking ability. 2 in 1 hour would be me trying my best.

hynesie08

The White Wolf wrote: »

Er....Reginald, I think we're all in awe here of your drinking ability. 2 in 1 hour would be me trying my best.

When you get a guinness thirst on you, the first four don't count, they go down that fast.....

But 7 guinness and food in 1h.45, jesus that'd tear the hoop off you.

The White Wolf

Jaysus, and it's the likes of myself that gets called an alco on here. :pac:

The White Wolf

The White Wolf wrote: »

Er....Reginald, I think we're all in awe here of your drinking ability. 2 in 1 hour would be me trying my best.

Ah no, you’d have half a one gone in the first mouthful.

hynesie08

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Ah no, you’d have half a one gone in the first mouthful.

One of my favourite things is watching tourists faces when the locals order a pint of guinness when the one in front of them is barely below the harp. The look of confusion/disgust/awe when the pint is at the last sup by the time it's pulled is beautiful.

Suckit

hynesie08 wrote: »

When pubs were due to reopen at the end of July, we were getting 9-18 cases a day, now its 90 - 170,its not that far off 10x...

Yeah, I think I misread your other post, not sure what I saw then that I don't see now, but I thought you were referring to march, and that we have more cases now.

hynesie08

Suckit wrote: »

Yeah, I think I misread your other post, not sure what I saw then that I don't see now, but I thought you were referring to march, and that we have more cases now.

No worries, I could have worded it better

MrStuffins

hynesie08 wrote: »

When you get a guinness thirst on you, the first four don't count, they go down that fast.....

But 7 guinness and food in 1h.45, jesus that'd tear the hoop off you.

I and my hoop can confirm this to be true! :pac:

jt69er

MrStuffins wrote: »

I and my hoop can confirm this to be true! :pac:

Any harm in asking what you had to eat?

MrStuffins

jt69er wrote: »

Any harm in asking what you had to eat?

They were quite clever actually, they were doing a deal whereby the food was €9 but when you ordered it you got a free pint.

I had some nachos. They really hit the spot

Justin Credible Darts

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Only person showing themselves up in this thread is you, all I see is people giving opinion that you keep saying are "crying". Get over yourself.

What that person was in was a restaurant, restaurants are open pubs as pubs are not hence the title of the thread your posting in.

Is Henchys, the PUB I passed today in cork that is a genuine "wet pub" with no kitchen a restaurant now ?


The pub has outside seating, a parked up food van, but it is a pub.


Cry, deflect, make up lies, spin things to suit an agenda, attack the poster, label people trolls etc, but it wont change the fact you are wrong, plain and simple.


Not every pub open is a restaurant, You are lying and people know you are lying.

hynesie08

So it's operating as a resteraunt, glad we're all on the same page....

Justin Credible Darts

hynesie08 wrote: »

So it's operating as a resteraunt, glad we're all on the same page....

its still a pub,






and not only do you know I am right, the rest of the forums know it, and the more you cry and try twist things the more sadder you look.


carry on

jt69er

MrStuffins wrote:

They were quite clever actually, they were doing a deal whereby the food was €9 but when you ordered it you got a free pint.

MrStuffins wrote:

I had some nachos. They really hit the spot

So you didn't have a substantial meal costing no less than 9 euro's.