Civil Servcie mobility scheme

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121103650#Comment_121103650

Why would it change? There's still the same number of people ahead of you.

labrik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104705#Comment_121104705

I've been tthrough the process before. Your position number doesn't change until 2 years service in the department As in, it changes but doesn't show up on the mobility stats. What I thought happenedis that your number stays the same until you have 2 years in a dept. Then it's re-adjusted. So even if you move up the list in the first 2 years in a dept and you're on the mobility list, the number doesn't change from (e.g. 15) until you're 2 years in the dept, then re-adjusted when you become elliigible. I've been briefed on this by fellow employees before. But I was wondering when the re-adjustment happens. It seems highly unlikely in a busy area that my position would be static for two years. As I said it was re-adjusted before in 2021 when mobility was freed up after lockdown. Just wondering if it is re-adjusted weekly.

Mr lebowski

It should always be moving even when your ineligible. I'm ineligible but I have gone way lower on the list for all the departments I've selected. Is there any chance yours are frozen as it doesn't sound correct that they are all the same after 2 years?.

daffodill50

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105637#Comment_121105637

This is definitely not correct, your position on the list should continue to change throughout the 2 years that you're ineligible. Perhaps reach out to the mobility team to confirm there are no issues with your application.

doc22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121104598#Comment_121104598

Moving EO to EO or CO to CO you should stay at current salary and increment?

labrik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121107425#Comment_121107425

Thanks. I did just that. Nothing wrong with my mobility and you are correct.It's just slow, and Peoplepoint advised me, as others have said, thatt offices choose between internal, external competitions, and list based mobility. The zonne that I'm trying to go to has a county town about the size of Kilkenny, so it won't be as quick as before. Someone above asked about being selected at higher numbers. I was 11 or 12 when contacted before but that was a small city. I'm No. 5 on the list for ages, but for a very small office who may only select one or two COs a year I'd say, so it depends.. I'll just have to ride it out. Appreciate all the feedback.

rostalof

Deleted, see below.

rostalof

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121107462#Comment_121107462

EO to EO, I started on the next point plus one as per section 1.2 of the Revised arrangements applying to starting pay Circular 08/2019

Circular 08-19.pdf

I know some may say EO to EO isn't a promotion and it isn't, but if you've been successful in an open competition, even at your current grade, you can't start your new role at the same salary point. It must be at a higher point.

doc22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121109795#Comment_121109795

OK

Pickysue

Looking for a bit of information - I’m an EO on the mobility list for DSP - currently 18 on the list for Zone 46 Dublin..realistically am I in with a chance of an offer before Christmas? I’ve taken as much as I can of my current department.. TIA👍

Lynnington3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121123001#Comment_121123001

its possible ( I was number 11 when I got my offer) but impossible to know. It’s totally dependent on how many in front of you have applications on hold or are ineligible and also how many positions open up in that location. I’d say you’ve a good chance though with Dublin , there’s apparently a huge shortage of EOs in Dublin at the min , for all departments

Pickysue

Thanks - fingers crossed!

Pickysue

Hi all - I’ve just been pre offered a position as EO in DSP - delighted with the role. I’ve sent my reasonable accommodation letter to my HR and they need to send a suitability report to the NSSO before I receive a formal offer.. Is this fairly straightforward? Can your department refuse to let you go or give a negative report? TIA

Kirbi

@Pickysue

The suitability report isn't really sent to the NSSO, so much as through their system - it's DSP who'll take action based on it, and the action is proscribed for the majority of cases.

You can only be deemed "unsuitable for mobility at this time" if one of these four things is true:

- you're subject to a 'live' disciplinary sanction

- you're currently on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP)

- you're currently under investigation for something which could result in a disciplinary sanction

- (Attendance, meaning) you're over the standard sick leave thresholds *and* your HR have reviewed your records and haven't "discounted" any.

I think the thresholds are something like 56 days / 24 instances of sick leave in a rolling 4-year period > pro rata if you have less than 4-years service.

HRs will generally consider discounting for pregnancy-related sick leave, sick leave that's unlikely to recur, etc. If you're under the thresholds there's no issue anyway.

Your organisation are not allowed to use any secret 5th reason when determining suitability!

Pickysue

Thanks so much! My AP made it sound all cloak and dagger as if HR could just refuse to let me go! The answer is no to all of them so I’ll be grand! Thanks again!

HydroTendonMan

My mobility position on the waitlist went up by 1 today. Any ideas why that might happen? Very disheartening when you're checking it expecting it to go down!

Kirbi

@HydroTendonMan

Either you've applied to the list on the same day as someone who has just overtaken you in length of service in grade, or someone above you was incorrectly taken off the list before has now been re-added with their original date.

doc22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121229219#Comment_121229219

someone may have reverted grade

HydroTendonMan

Thanks for the input folks. We keep waiting!

Turtyturd

Does anyone know what the typical ‘notice’ period is when someone gets/accepts an offer?….is there a standard 2/4 weeks or does it vary depending on what both departments agree to?

Heiser

I'm currently living in Dublin but will be moving to Abbeylix in Laois in a couple of years, so I want to go on the mobility lists now.

What big civil service offices are within an hour's drive of Abbeyleix? Defence in Newbridge and Agriculture in Celbridge would be two of the bigger offices that come to mind, is there anywhere else I should be looking at?

Nigel Fairservice

There is a mobility map on the DPER website somewhere I think. There might be a link to it somewhere on the NSSO website.

Agriculture and DSP in Portlaoise.

Turtyturd

What grade are you at?

Hotblack Desiato

CRO are in Carlow not Portlaoise

Nigel Fairservice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348566#Comment_121348566

Edited that. Don't know why I said Portlaoise!

Heiser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348548#Comment_121348548

HEO

Heiser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121347893#Comment_121347893

Thanks for that, that's what I was looking for. The links on the NSSO website are dead.

Red Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121349292#Comment_121349292

the above should work.

this is the doer mobility link but I think you. May have to be on a Government Network to access it https://hr.per.gov.ie/civil-service-mobility/

Red Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121349482#Comment_121349482

sorry accidentally deleted mobility map

https://dper.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=83eb12efc9c7478a982d39a89f759663

shmeee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121347466#Comment_121347466

Large Revenue offices in Nenagh (you'd be down in now time on the motorway 45mins) and Kilkenny. Also DSP in Kilkenny too. Thurles has Garda Vetting & Penalty points unit along with Revenue & DSP. Look at the map and you'd be surprised what is around.