Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

SNNUS

Good thread plus it showed in the end we were not a crazy minority in the call for easing of restrictions as some tried to point out.

At least going forward people will have better hygiene etiquette and be more mindful of others out there. For me the first thing I will do is a hike on Monday and some sunset photos at the coast on a nice evening, with these restrictions eased I will probably see less people!

SNNUS

SNNUS wrote: »

Good thread plus it showed in the end we were not a crazy minority in the call for easing of restrictions as some tried to point out.

At least going forward people will have better hygiene etiquette and be more mindful of others out there. For me the first thing I will do is a hike on Monday and some sunset photos at the coast on a nice evening, with these restrictions eased I will probably see less people!

Well said, we weren’t just a bunch of cranks screaming for pubs and hairdressers to open ! All I wanted was the chance to see some family and to get back out to the places I love like mountains, ironically the most quiet and deserted places. I rarely go to pubs and I panicked more about my hair in March than I do now. It’s actually looking really good , highlighted by the sunshine ...trimmed by me , I can happily wait till 20 July .
The dogs on the street saw our restrictions were too punitive to be kept going at such a glacial pace . I’d say Tony knew he was losing the battle about 10 days ago. We did what we were asked and it worked . Simon Harris was a tool all along!

Thank God sense prevailed. I’ve just booked a weekend in Westport for some hiking in July, and hopefully Antrim coast before that . I hope to see my mum in her nursing home soon too , it’s been too long. Stay well everyone, thanks for the company these last few weeks , it kept me sane .
Over and out.

MickeyLeari

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well said, we weren’t just a bunch of cranks screaming for pubs to open ! The dogs on the street saw our restrictions were too punitive to be kept going till July 20. I’d say Tony knew he was losing the battle about 10 days ago. We did what we were asked and it worked . Simon Harris was a tool all along!

Thank God sense prevailed. I’ve just booked a weekend in Westport for some hiking in July, and hopefully Antrim coast before that . Stay well everyone, thanks for the company these last few weeks , it kept me sane .
Over and out.

Great post.

FintanMcluskey

Deleted User wrote: »

Well said, we weren’t just a bunch of cranks screaming for pubs and shops to open ! All I wanted was the chance to see some family and to get back out to the places I love like mountains, ironically the most quiet and deserted places. The dogs on the street saw our restrictions were too punitive to be kept going till July 20. I’d say Tony knew he was losing the battle about 10 days ago. We did what we were asked and it worked . Simon Harris was a tool all along!

Thank God sense prevailed. I’ve just booked a weekend in Westport for some hiking in July, and hopefully Antrim coast before that . I hope to see my mum in her nursing home soon too , it’s been too long. Stay well everyone, thanks for the company these last few weeks , it kept me sane .
Over and out.

Been a long 3 months

Semper fi

bb1234567

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

slowly falling in Northern Ireland

https://twitter.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/1268646230151888896

Wow R0 rising already to rates of growth. How did UK manage this so much worse than all of Europe..overtook Spain in deaths per capita today

storker

Arghus wrote: »

Oh, don't worry I've been outside plenty. I've been working all the time through this!

Ssshhh...don't go spoiling their sterotyping. It means so much to them.

(Also been working through this and been outside frequently for work, shopping, and exercise, which is weird, considering all the claims that we were locked in our homes...I never noticed.)

nocoverart

All great news, we're in a great position right now. Obviously we shouldn't get complacent. I do have this blind optimism that it will fook off for good, but that's just in my gut and means nothing in the real world.

nocoverart

storker wrote: »

Ssshhh...don't go spoiling their sterotyping. It means so much to them.

(Also been working through this and been outside frequently for work, shopping, and exercise, which is weird, considering all the claims that we were locked in our homes...I never noticed.)

There is no us Vs them here. The facts are the facts. People made big sacrifices to get where we are... if you're miserable right now you'll always be miserable.

storker

nocoverart wrote: »

There is no us Vs them here.

If you think that, you haven't been paying attention.

The facts are the facts. People made big sacrifices to get where we are... if you're miserable right now you'll always be miserable.

I'm not miserable at all. I've been happily working from home, getting out for exercise, supporting those local businesses that could stay open to some degree, and making the odd necessary trip to the office. I'm also pleased at the prospect of taking my family out for a meal and getting a haircut sometime soon-ish although I might give in out of desperation and do a DIY no 2 cut all over...

Penfailed

I reckon I'd be pigeonholed into the 'lockdown merchant' category by some on here. That's not the case at all. It's true to say I supported the actions of the government. My thoughts were that, "I was happy with the pace and I would be happier if it were speeded up." It has speeded up...and I am happier. Good luck.

Jimmy Garlic

Penfailed wrote: »

I reckon I'd be pigeonholed into the 'lockdown merchant' category by some on here. That's not the case at all. It's true to say I supported the actions of the government. My thoughts were that, "I was happy with the pace and I would be happier if it were speeded up." It has speeded up...and I am happier. Good luck.

The next bandwagon should be along shortly, hon voyage.

nocoverart

storker wrote: »

If you think that, you haven't been paying attention.



I'm not miserable at all. I've been happily working from home, getting out for exercise, supporting those local businesses that could stay open to some degree, and making the odd necessary trip to the office. I'm also pleased at the prospect of taking my family out for a meal and getting a haircut sometime soon-ish although I might give in out of desperation and do a DIY no 2 cut all over...

There's an obvious fear coming through though, whilst there's more chance of you getting knocked down by a car right now (God forbid) Trust me when I say the last thing I needed was this Virus, I'm currently caring for my Mother and if she got this it's probably game over but we got to the point where we can sigh a breath of relief. Let's not worry about waves 2,3,4 and five. They might or might not happen but watch out for them cars : )

Jayesdiem

Very welcome news yesterday. Those who want to get on with life can now do so to an extent and those who are scared to step outside can continue to shrink wrap themselves indoors until the cows come home. That’s a fair compromise. Of course for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction so for those of us who were distressed at our liberties being shat all over, there will be a good number of automatons whose lives will be turned upside down by the government’s partial withdrawal of their critical thinking function. What they will do now, I don’t know as it’s much like trying to wean an infant off breast feeding long after Mum’s tit should have been withdrawn. No doubt we will see a temporary increase in infections as we get back to normal life and I very much hope the government don’t sh1t the bed when that happens. A reaction like this can never be allowed to occur again. Pandemics will possibly come and go with more frequency in our globalised world but unless it is a genuinely deadly virus (which this one is not) I hope I never hear the word “lockdown” as long as I’m alive. My complaining will now be directed at the dystopian measures that will persist long after this virus is gone: the drawing of circles around children in school, the wearing of gas masks in public and the conducting of business through plexiglass as if we are all Hannibal Lecter.

JRant

It's fairly clear that once the government seen the extent of the May deficit, even with the revised estimates, of over 6 billion they knew they had to greatly increase the pace of reopening.

I'm delighted we are seeing more businesses opened and travel restrictions reduced.

It's going to be a nightmare for a lot of people to try get to work Monday morning though with public transportation only able to cater for around 20% of it's designed capacity. It really needs to be masks and 1m for public transport.

mirrorwall14

Is travel for social distanced respect for funeral ok? Family member has died in the west. Unfortunately I won’t be in the 25 allowed on Monday but I would like to travel to stand and show my respects and to (socially distanced) console my mum. Obviously will use my own car and won’t be staying over anywhere

VonLuck

Penfailed wrote: »

I reckon I'd be pigeonholed into the 'lockdown merchant' category by some on here. That's not the case at all. It's true to say I supported the actions of the government. My thoughts were that, "I was happy with the pace and I would be happier if it were speeded up." It has speeded up...and I am happier. Good luck.

I think that's the view of most levelheaded people. But once you mention any degree of acceptance of the government's actions on this thread you are suddenly labelled a lockdown merchant.

punisher5112

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Is travel for social distanced respect for funeral ok? Family member has died in the west. Unfortunately I won’t be in the 25 allowed on Monday but I would like to travel to stand and show my respects and to (socially distanced) console my mum. Obviously will use my own car and won’t be staying over anywhere

Technically no....

But it does seem if you are a traveller or the elite at D4 you can do as you please...
There was a funeral at Donnybrook yesterday with huge numbers.
Not 10 or 20... A lot more.

Deiselurker

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Is travel for social distanced respect for funeral ok? Family member has died in the west. Unfortunately I won’t be in the 25 allowed on Monday but I would like to travel to stand and show my respects and to (socially distanced) console my mum. Obviously will use my own car and won’t be staying over anywhere

You can only travel within your own county or up to 20km if you are near a county border from Monday. Full travel restrictions not being lifted until June 29. I don't believe they are exemptions for funerals.

pjohnson

VonLuck wrote: »

I think that's the view of most levelheaded people. But once you mention any degree of acceptance of the government's actions on this thread you are suddenly labelled a lockdown merchant.

Only outrage allowed but it suprisingly seems to have taken the good news well!

VonLuck

VonLuck wrote: »

I think that's the view of most levelheaded people. But once you mention any degree of acceptance of the government's actions on this thread you are suddenly labelled a lockdown merchant.

If everyone had happily accepted the plan, the chances are that it would have continued at the same pace and we’d have billions more deficits for June and July.

Businesses screaming to reopen, people contacting their local TDs, growing numbers raising concerns on all forms of media.

These actions have helped to put the pressure on and get the government to act faster. Tony and NPHET needed to be overruled. It appears as though that happened now.

JRant

VonLuck wrote: »

I think that's the view of most levelheaded people. But once you mention any degree of acceptance of the government's actions on this thread you are suddenly labelled a lockdown merchant.

Accepting the governments roadmap is fine, once people doing so we're willing to admit that it was coming at great cost to the country both financially and for society in general. You can't lock down a country for 3 months without serious repercussions. We have a huge hole in public finances that will inevitably lead to cuts in funding for the most vulnerable members of society.

Unemployment figures will take years to correct and anyone thinking of starting a new business would need to really consider the fact that government can and will put you out of business at the stroke of a pen without an actual need to qualify their decision.

What this pandemic has shown though is the news to fund proper research into how we respond in future to the next one. We can't rely on crackpot modelling from the likes of Dr Ferguson or Dr Nolan again.

average_runner

Deiselurker wrote: »

You can only travel within your own county or up to 20km if you are near a county border from Monday. Full travel restrictions not being lifted until June 29. I don't believe they are exemptions for funerals.

If you are stop, just say your mother is in a bad way and you are going down to calm her down.

We go down home most weekends as dad need us. It's over 150k away

mirrorwall14

average_runner wrote: »

If you are stop, just say your mother is in a bad way and you are going down to calm her down.

We go down home most weekends as dad need us. It's over 150k away

It’d be true too. You are right thanks. We’ve had neighbours doing the shopping but need to throw an eye over things anyways too at this stage

bb1234567

1.7 billion people freed today, lockdown has now ended in India , Pakistan and Bangladesh.

mirrorwall14

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Is travel for social distanced respect for funeral ok? Family member has died in the west. Unfortunately I won’t be in the 25 allowed on Monday but I would like to travel to stand and show my respects and to (socially distanced) console my mum. Obviously will use my own car and won’t be staying over anywhere

Oh 100 percent go. Friends travelled from cork to Waterford for my dads funeral a few wks ago. They got stopped at a few checkpoints but once they told them where they were going they said no problem.

Please go, it meant so much to see some of my friends there, even if it was just standing outside the church

AUDI20

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Very welcome news yesterday. Those who want to get on with life can now do so to an extent and those who are scared to step outside can continue to shrink wrap themselves indoors until the cows come home. That’s a fair compromise. Of course for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction so for those of us who were distressed at our liberties being shat all over, there will be a good number of automatons whose lives will be turned upside down by the government’s partial withdrawal of their critical thinking function. What they will do now, I don’t know as it’s much like trying to wean an infant off breast feeding long after Mum’s tit should have been withdrawn. No doubt we will see a temporary increase in infections as we get back to normal life and I very much hope the government don’t sh1t the bed when that happens. A reaction like this can never be allowed to occur again. Pandemics will possibly come and go with more frequency in our globalised world but unless it is a genuinely deadly virus (which this one is not) I hope I never hear the word “lockdown” as long as I’m alive. My complaining will now be directed at the dystopian measures that will persist long after this virus is gone: the drawing of circles around children in school, the wearing of gas masks in public and the conducting of business through plexiglass as if we are all Hannibal Lecter.

Nearly 400,000 Deaths world wide and rising is not a deadly virus? Get real. Our Government where spot on with their actions and over 70percent of the population agree

FishOnABike

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nope advice stays the same as it was regarding masks

Will be interesting to see if that will change as public transport becomes more crowded and when schools reopen. Hopefully we'll keep numbers where they are now, or even better.

Reducing social distancing to 1 metre would only be half as effective as 2 metres¹ in preventing transmission of CoViD-19 but effective wearing of masks could help compensate for this and for increased close contact times.

¹ http://www.thelancet-press.com/embargo/physicaldistancing.pdf

Danonino.

bb1234567 wrote: »

1.7 billion people freed today, lockdown has now ended in India , Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Very very very different lockdown situation and resulting impact to us here in Ireland. Here our greatest concerns have been mental health, the economy and being unable to visit friends/family/the beach.


In India you had people walking 650+ miles home due to no income and no housing, multiple deaths on train lines and many dying from exhaustion, dehydration and hunger. Mass exodus from towns and cities with no transport system and nowhere to stay in between.

Jayesdiem

AUDI20 wrote: »

Nearly 400,000 Deaths world wide and rising is not a deadly virus? Get real. Our Government where spot on with their actions and over 70percent of the population agree

Yes you read that correctly. If we consider this a killer, we must also say the same of influenza, yet nobody gives a sh1t about that despite its propensity to become widespread, and also to kill people. Despite that, we have this incredible situation in which the flu is supposedly not serious enough to influence public behaviour but this coronavirus has changed the way we will operate, likely forever. That is a blatant inconsistency I cannot come to terms with in my mind.

Edit: I also need to add that it is not exaggerating to say 70% of the population are sheep. They lack the ability to think for themselves and need to be told what to do in order to function. That 30% don’t require a nanny is actually encouraging, I believed it was less.

Danonino.

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Yes you read that correctly. If we consider this a killer, we must also say the same of influenza, yet nobody gives a sh1t about that despite its propensity to become widespread, and also to kill people. Despite that, we have this incredible situation in which the flu is supposedly not serious enough to influence public behaviour but this coronavirus has changed the way we will operate, likely forever. That is a blatant inconsistency I cannot come to terms with in my mind.

Edit: I also need to add that it is not exaggerating to say 70% of the population are sheep. They lack the ability to think for themselves and need to be told what to do in order to function. That 30% don’t require a nanny is actually encouraging, I believed it was less.

.... so you don’t see a difference between Covid-19 not having a vaccine and killing 400k people worldwide in approx 4 months and infuenza.

K