Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

bb1234567

Hotels, B&B's, hostels can all reopen from early July in effort to revive tourism in the country. Presumably that means all associated tourist attractions will also open simultaneously? galleries museums restaurants though they were not specifically mentioned by the cabinet announcement which is odd. What will tourists come for if most things aren't open for them?

is_that_so

Stark wrote: »

Virus respects county borders. Though further scientific research is needed to determine if it follows administrative county borders or GAA county borders.

Or constituencies! There must be a little more flesh to the proposal because these questions will be first up.

polesheep

Breezin wrote: »

Get back to your own Riding now! :mad:

But not with more than one person;)

vid36

vid36 wrote: »

The county boundary is in addition to the 20km. You can travel 20KM from your home and any distance in your county.

I will be meeting my relatives on the hard shoulder of the N17 just outside Ballindine

newuser99999

manniot2 wrote: »

Lads the guards will not be checking what county you are from - this is free travel within the country except in name.

Wow so I can’t go 10km over the road into Galway but I can travel 2 hours to Belmullet. Makes a lot of sense.

polesheep

Deleted User wrote: »

Its far more likely that the government has been in talks at a European level about air bridges but could not talk about it in advance of agreements being made and cabinet approving.

That's your take and you are entitled to it. I for one am very pleased, yet again, that I am a member of the EU.

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Completely unenforceable - there are many instances where in order to get from one area in a county to another, you would need a large detour to avoid crossing a different county

Perhaps assuming that most people will respect it and to avoid cross-country runs to air out the summer homes!

setanta1984

It's a bit nonsensical this county thing when analysed but if it is a precursor to full removal of travel restrictions by the next phase then I'll take it. Considering how hopeless it felt regarding speeding up a few weeks ago this at least is movement in the right direction. If we can get everything from phase 5 in place by early July all will mostly be forgiven.

Any willingness to show flexibility at this stage is welcome, considering the base we started from and the complete lack of hope that was exhibited up to now. Leo has been completely infuriating up to now but he can still salvage this, just.

polesheep

bb1234567 wrote: »

Hotels, B&B's, hostels can all reopen from early July in effort to revive tourism in the country. Presumably that means all associated tourist attractions will also open simultaneously? galleries museums restaurants though they were not specifically mentioned by the cabinet announcement which is odd. What will tourists come for if most things aren't open for them?

How many times will people in Clare want to visit the Cliffs of Moher, because no one else in the country will be able to?

is_that_so

Ah a clarification, an obvious one.

"If they live in a border area they will also be able to travel up to 20km into another county."

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0605/1145568-covid19-coronavirus-phase-2-restrictions/

titan18

bb1234567 wrote: »

Hotels, B&B's, hostels can all reopen from early July in effort to revive tourism in the country. Presumably that means all associated tourist attractions will also open simultaneously? galleries museums restaurants though they were not specifically mentioned by the cabinet announcement which is odd. What will tourists come for if most things aren't open for them?

Restaurants are open end of June so already be open. And I doubt anyone comes to Ireland to see museums and galleries. We don't exactly have the Louvre here

Pete_Cavan

Stark wrote: »

Virus respects county borders. Though further scientific research is needed to determine if it follows administrative county borders or GAA county borders.

The people of Ballaghaderreen will be hoping it remains a grey area and they can claim both!

ThewhiteJesus

the county by county thing is fair enough, i'm in dublin where the numbers are highest,
but my folks are in Clare where they are very very low.
They don't want the virus coming into their county until it's safer,
every journey starts with a step

polesheep

is_that_so wrote: »

Ah a clarification, an obvious one.

"If they live in a border area they will also be able to travel up to 20km into another county."

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0605/1145568-covid19-coronavirus-phase-2-restrictions/

Not so much a clarification as an "Oh fu*k, that county idea wasn't great was it? How can we get out of it?"

storker

niallo27 wrote: »

So your on an internet forum complaining about people being on an internet forum.

Nope. Read it properly.

Not exactly great for all the many people that live just outside Dublin but see Dublin as their home. Just more nonsense really.

polesheep

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

the county by county thing is fair enough, i'm in dublin where the numbers are highest,
but my folks are in Clare where they are very very low.
They don't want the virus coming into their county until it's safer,
every journey starts with a step

It's a population size thing. Just like big cows and far away cows.

road_high

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

first time since covid 19 started i see lot's of positive news/posts here today which is great,
i for one will not take my civil liberties for granted ever again, or the simple things in life like a hug or a decent conversation when this is over !

Feel a tinch of emotion this morning catching up on all the posts here. People can get their livelihoods back and we can move forward with some hope after 3 months of constant fear mongering. I expect air travel to follow suit now very quickly. Also for family members we haven’t seen in one three months

is_that_so

polesheep wrote: »

Not so much a clarification as an "Oh fu*k, that county idea wasn't great was it? How can we get out of it?"

More like journalists were too busy firing out their stories to ask first!

Irish Aris

Lia_lia wrote: »

Great, so I can go to West Cork over 100km away but still can’t go to my Mother’s house in Kerry which is 70km away.

Nail on the head. . .

Probably doing it for contact tracing reasons, which I reckon still isn't where it should be (and I wonder if they will ever be).
I wonder though how they could really enforce it. . .

jimmytwotimes 2013

Bout time they did this. My county free of cases with a while, no sense in keeping 5k/20k but makes sense to keep holiday home owners away for another bit.

Kerry is my playground for this phase. Not a problem

is_that_so

It's your county +20km into another one!

recyclebin

What is legally enforcable and what's just a government recommendation?

stephenjmcd

This is a serious speeding up of the reopening, didn't expect them to do this much, shopping centres open in just under 2 weeks time, 2 months early.

Looks like we'll have everything open by mid july at the latest

Jimmy Garlic

newuser99999 wrote: »

Wow so I can’t go 10km over the road into Galway but I can travel 2 hours to Belmullet. Makes a lot of sense.

Of course you can. There is no law stopping you. I was in several counties and a different country over the last few weeks because there was no law stopping me, just colour of law, which is a different thing. The guards haven’t arrested a single person for breaking “guidelines” and “advice” not one person has been arrested for being more than their “ allowed “ distance away from home. It’s all a farce

Charles Babbage

polesheep wrote: »

It's a population size thing. Just like big cows and far away cows.

No, there have been many recent cases in Monaghan, one of the smallest counties.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Charles Babbage wrote: »

No, there have been many recent cases in Monaghan, one of the smallest counties.

Border counties the exceptions that prove the rule

the kelt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

stephenjmcd wrote: »

This is a serious speeding up of the reopening, didn't expect them to do this much, shopping centres open in just under 2 weeks time, 2 months early.

Looks like we'll have everything open by mid july at the latest

Yep its looking good, it seems common sense is starting to come into effect.

polesheep

Charles Babbage wrote: »

No, there have been many recent cases in Monaghan, one of the smallest counties.

I was referring to The White Bishop's comparison to Dublin.

And as for keeping the Dubs out, do you honestly believe that all of the Dublin cases are Dubs, born and bred? That none of them are people from other parts of the country who happen to live and work in Dublin? Or that all of the people in Dublin hospitals are living in Dublin? I think the inter county rivalry should be kept for the GAA.

uli84

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