Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Assetbacked

lukas8888 wrote: »

Reported??? on what basis.

Sick of being proven wrong I think.

facehugger99

Assetbacked wrote: »

So assuming you are one of the "large cohort" who fill out a form, you may not even be checked but the worst that will happen anyway is you get a phone call.

"Are you isolating?"

"Yeah,"

"OK, bye"

What a load of fcuking nonsense.

All to placate the hysteria-merchants who want to feel "safe".

Of course, it's going to have an absolutely devastating impact on our tourism and business sectors.

fr336

Assetbacked wrote: »

Sick of being proven wrong I think.

Are you saying you're always right? What a luxury.

Assetbacked

fr336 wrote: »

Are you saying you're always right? What a luxury.

Welcome to the relaxations thread, here is something for you to chew on;

https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/im-off-to-amsterdam-with-my-pals-i-just-need-to-get-out-of-here-irish-holidaymakers-jet-off-as-ryanair-resumes-flights-39331558.html

And we're off! All good news stories of normal Irish people heading off on flights for some well earned trips abroad!

EDIT: 3:6 are the numbers today. Even more good news putting to bed fears about reopening.

6 cases. Think Tony just hit the panic button the other day because of a tiny cluster.

Assetbacked

Deleted User wrote: »

6 cases. Think Tony just hit the panic button the other day because of a tiny cluster.

He'll be following them home from the airports and testing them himself to ensure there's numbers to justify his wholly-unjustified caution and negativity.

Ginger n Lemon

facehugger99 wrote: »

"Are you isolating?"

"Yeah,"

"OK, bye"

What a load of fcuking nonsense.

All to placate the hysteria-merchants who want to feel "safe".

Of course, it's going to have an absolutely devastating impact on our tourism and business sectors.

My thinking exactly. Some absolute bullshi* going on beyond belief.

Allinall

facehugger99 wrote: »

"Are you isolating?"

"Yeah,"

"OK, bye"

What a load of fcuking nonsense.

All to placate the hysteria-merchants who want to feel "safe".

Of course, it's going to have an absolutely devastating impact on our tourism and business sectors.

Do you think everyone is a bare faced liar?

fr336

Assetbacked wrote: »

Welcome to the relaxations thread, here is something for you to chew on;

https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/im-off-to-amsterdam-with-my-pals-i-just-need-to-get-out-of-here-irish-holidaymakers-jet-off-as-ryanair-resumes-flights-39331558.html

And we're off! All good news stories of normal Irish people heading off on flights for some well earned trips abroad!

EDIT: 3:6 are the numbers today. Even more good news putting to bed fears about reopening.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry that you post about the great Irish case numbers while in the same post talking about Irish people off for some well earned trips abroad. I wonder what they could bring back with them. Hopefully they stick to mainland Europe and don't go near the UK.

Assetbacked

fr336 wrote: »

I don't know whether to laugh or cry that you post about the great Irish case numbers while in the same post talking about Irish people off for some well earned trips abroad. I wonder what they could bring back with them. Hopefully they stick to mainland Europe and don't go near the UK.

Back up this claim with data and I'll reconsider.

fr336

facehugger99 wrote: »

"Are you isolating?"

"Yeah,"

"OK, bye"

What a load of fcuking nonsense.

All to placate the hysteria-merchants who want to feel "safe".

Of course, it's going to have an absolutely devastating impact on our tourism and business sectors.

It's not to placate anyone. It's to protect the country and the economy. Since when has the government cared about a minority of people? They've done all this for for the national interest.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

6 cases. Think Tony just hit the panic button the other day because of a tiny cluster.

And surely he was fully aware that it was caused by 1 cluster? So why the panic?

Their messages don't align with the reality of the situation, makes them look dishonest.

fr336

Assetbacked wrote: »

Back up this claim with data and I'll reconsider.

You think they're doing as well as Ireland in Europe or the UK?

Can't be bothered with the data, you wouldn't reconsider you'd just disappear. Like they all did in March/April.

Ginger n Lemon

AdamD wrote: »

And surely he was fully aware that it was caused by 1 cluster? So why the panic?

Their messages don't align with the reality of the situation, makes them look dishonest.

Theyve been dishonest for weeks now not reporting age of deaths.

showpony1

I haven't been following the news closely anymore on new cases - but saw on RTE there are 6 cases.

It's truly incredible to believe the hassle i experienced in the last week going shopping in town(no toilets available), for a meal/pint (not being able leave the table/105 mins limit etc) and queuing for gym this week are over 6 people in the entire country.

Can we not just get on with normality now even if there are certain limits on international travel - We've as much chance of catching the virus in the queues for these places back opened where there are superficial restrictions in place.

Why are we allowed wander aimlessly around Supervalu on top of each other but someone reacts as if you are about to shoot someone if you approach the bar in a pub.

Sitting on the bus with someone in seat in front and behind me spluttering etc - then go to gym queue amongst 50 people to be able to go into a semi empty gym after an hour queuing where there are then people doing some half-assed wiping of equipment which makes no odds, using the same showers as people etc.

There is just so much hassle in place for little benefit.

facehugger99

AdamD wrote: »

And surely he was fully aware that it was caused by 1 cluster? So why the panic?

Their messages don't align with the reality of the situation, makes them look dishonest.

What about the "worrying trend"?

I wasn't even aware you could have a 'trend' much less a 'worrying' one after one day's figures.

The guy is on a power-trip mixed with a big dose of arse-covering and distraction and there's plenty lapping up his sh;te everyday like it's gospel.

fr336

Assetbacked wrote: »

He'll be following them home from the airports and testing them himself to ensure there's numbers to justify his wholly-unjustified caution and negativity.

He's the Chief MEDICAL Officer. His job is to be cautious in a pandemic. He doesn't run the country. The politicians do or should. Why should he not do his job properly because the politicians aren't doing theirs or some hysteric know it alls on Boards are stamping their feet?

Ginger n Lemon

fr336 wrote: »

He's the Chief MEDICAL Officer. His job is to be cautious in a pandemic. He doesn't run the country. The politicians do or should. Why should he not do his job properly because the politicians aren't doing theirs or some hysteric know it alls on Boards are stamping their feet?

You clearly havent heard about cervical check scandal in Ireland. Main man? Tony H. He is the CHIEF incompetent officer. Do you think German health minister says "I have a cause for concern" everyday on national television?

Allinall

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You clearly havent heard about cervical check scandal in Ireland. Main man? Tony H. He is the CHIEF incompetent officer. Do you think German health minister says "I have a cause for concern" everyday on national television?

Our health minister doesn’t say that either.

Have you a point somewhere in that post?

Assetbacked

fr336 wrote: »

He's the Chief MEDICAL Officer. His job is to be cautious in a pandemic. He doesn't run the country. The politicians do or should. Why should he not do his job properly because the politicians aren't doing theirs or some hysteric know it alls on Boards are stamping their feet?

His job is to be cautious in a pandemic, is that what the job description says? There is a narrative from his quotes not lining up with the data. The nursing home situation is a scandal under his watch and he has been covering his own ass for the last number of weeks as he has had to do before in his career.

I am looking at our numbers and just bemused as to how we still have any restrictions in the country so long as travel has been restricted. There is no community transmission, hardly anyone in hospital even, being cautious has given way to being ridiculous.

Spanish Eyes

We now have only six cases because of the restrictions surely?

The virus hasn’t gone away, it is awaiting new hosts.

However life has to go on but not with NO restrictions imv.

Assetbacked

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

We now have only six cases because of the restrictions surely?

The virus hasn’t gone away, it is awaiting new hosts.

However life has to go on but not with NO restrictions imv.

Where is it awaiting new hosts with our numbers being so stable and no community transmission currently? It needs somewhere to wait (ie infected people) which we are lacking.

thelad95

The debacle in Sligo is a mere bubble and Tony has used it as a scapegoat to show how bad international travel is. I doubt too many people planning a summer abroad will be going to virus ridden Iraq however.

fr336

Assetbacked wrote: »

Where is it awaiting new hosts with our numbers being so stable and no community transmission currently? It needs somewhere to wait (ie infected people) which we are lacking.

Fair point. What is your stance on travel coming into the country and measures at airports, for travellers coming back etc? And if there is a slight uptick in cases like there was in February/March and then it snowballed to almost 2000 deaths what restrictions would you put in place again, if any?

Spanish Eyes

Assetbacked wrote: »

Where is it awaiting new hosts with our numbers being so stable and no community transmission currently? It needs somewhere to wait (ie infected people) which we are lacking.

Travel, pubs restaurants, and mingling, no masks, shopping, little distancing.

facehugger99

fr336 wrote: »

He's the Chief MEDICAL Officer. His job is to be cautious in a pandemic. He doesn't run the country. The politicians do or should. Why should he not do his job properly because the politicians aren't doing theirs or some hysteric know it alls on Boards are stamping their feet?

He's also a liar.

He knew there wasn't a "worrying trend" when he came out with that line it just suited his agenda to peddle that lie.

He's also a patronising bastard but that's by the by.

Assetbacked

fr336 wrote: »

Fair point. What is your stance on travel coming into the country and measures at airports, for travellers coming back etc? And if there is a slight uptick in cases like there was in February/March and then it snowballed to almost 2000 deaths what restrictions would you put in place again, if any?

Well, for a start we know a lot more about it now, have better treatments for it, we have bulked up hospital resources, have appropriate guidance to contain transmission and know that, worst case scenario, lockdown will destroy the virus in Ireland. If international travel is restricted, why do we still have stupid social distancing nonsense internally? The risk is from international travel so that should be restricted from basket cases like Brazil, US and mainland UK!

GocRh

Just traveled from Dublin to Germany today.
Everyone wearing masks and observing social distancing.
DAA did a fantastic job and the signage in the airport is excellent. Better than what I've seen in Frankfurt airport.

Flight was pretty much full, 80+ % load factor. Families and even some business travelers on board, if it weren't for the masks it would be just like a normal summer flight.

We CAN return to a more normal life, and should.

Onesea

Take a peek at flight radar 24.Look at the amount of flights between the canaries and mainland Spain. Ireland will be dragged back to normality after the rest of Europe gets on with it.. Not one person in government willing to make a decision or take blame..

Naos

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

See the weather today in Dublin?

Staycations? Oh Tony, he ll never stop entertaining with wishful thinking is he? I remember back few weeks ago he said in a press conference he was hoping for some bad weather to encourage people not to gather in groups outdoors.

Now he probably wishes Ireland was sunny and staycations was a thing. Except for Ireland is rarely sunny. Weather turned to shi*e ever since staycations started to get mentioned.

hmmm wrote: »

You talk a lot about how much lockdown will cost the business community, and then here you are slagging off the hospitality industry in Ireland. Is it Irish or Spanish businesses you are worried for?

So long as his pubs, cinema, gym and barbers are open, I really don't think he give's a ****.

How can you seriously complain about the economic impact of the lockdown, reguarly post about the damage to the tourism sector in particular and then do a complete 180 when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is.

Unreal.