Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

magicbastarder

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Do you condone cyclists breaking speed limits?

you were talking on about rules of the road, and them being there for a reason, and then asked this question. and when it was pointed out that under the road traffic laws, speed limits simply don't apply to bikes, you moved the goalposts and claimed you were talking about laws within dublin city council parks (cos, obviously, we'd have copped what you meant). then you made clear you've been driving on the M50 without realising what the speed limit is(?), and are now talking about speed limits again.
are you still talking about a fringe case regarding speed limits in council parks? or where are you going with that question?

Thargor

magicbastarder wrote: »

you were talking on about rules of the road, and them being there for a reason, and then asked this question. and when it was pointed out that under the road traffic laws, speed limits simply don't apply to bikes, you moved the goalposts and claimed you were talking about laws within dublin city council parks (cos, obviously, we'd have copped what you meant). then you made clear you've been driving on the M50 without realising what the speed limit is(?), and are now talking about speed limits again.
are you still talking about a fringe case regarding speed limits in council parks? or where are you going with that question?

I bet he was delighted when his little M50 slip went unnoticed.

Hurrache

Guys must think they're on the section of road in which you don't need to know the rotr, like some guys (who are extremely familiar with it don't you know) think exist on the M50.

https://twitter.com/OConnorOisin/status/1277251795644006400?s=19

ewc78

FinnC wrote: »

Funny you should say that. I was out for a cycle last night and was stopped at a set of lights when two other cyclists came up behind me and kept going through the red. It takes a special kind of eejit though to keep going through the red when the car at the top of the line of traffic is a cop car.
The two were pulled over straight away, to be honest I thought it was a glorious moment.
Was the only good part of the cycle though as I was still feeling the effects of the night before celebrating Liverpool, my legs didn't want to do what my head wanted them too

I love it when something like that happens.

magicbastarder

funny thing is that one thing many of us cyclists hate is when we're stopped at traffic lights, another cyclist comes up from behind, passes you, and then plonks themselves right in front of you.

07Lapierre

magicbastarder wrote: »

funny thing is that one thing many of us cyclists hate is when we're stopped at traffic lights, another cyclist comes up from behind, passes you, and then plonks themselves right in front of you.

What's worse is when the light goes green, you overtake this cyclist and when you get to the next light, They don't take the hint and do it again!

Stark

I'm worried when I start commuting to work again and start using the narrow section of the Liffey cycle route, I'll probably end up shooting one of them.

dashcamdanny

magicbastarder wrote: »

funny thing is that one thing many of us cyclists hate is when we're stopped at traffic lights, another cyclist comes up from behind, passes you, and then plonks themselves right in front of you.

Ha. Try driving a bus and 20 cyclists do the same thing!!! 😆

micar

magicbastarder wrote: »

funny thing is that one thing many of us cyclists hate is when we're stopped at traffic lights, another cyclist comes up from behind, passes you, and then plonks themselves right in front of you.

Especially when you've previously overtaken them.......FFS.

They also usually position themselves ahead of the line and are blissfully unaware the light has turned green.

And I'm the one who watching the lights and have began to move off just before the lights go green.

07Lapierre

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Ha. Try driving a bus and 20 cyclists do the same thing!!! ��

20 cyclists stopping at a red light?

micar

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Ha. Try driving a bus and 20 cyclists do the same thing!!! ��

Or the bus driver who overtakes a cyclist just as a bus stop is approaching, indicates and just pulls in.

Yes.....Mr/Mrs bus driver, I am still here and right behind you close to the kerb.

Why did you feel you had to overtake me when you knew you were approaching a bus stop and potentially were going to have to stop.......wonderful driving there ......

ewc78

micar wrote: »

Or the bus driver who overtakes a cyclist just as a bus stop is approaching, indicates and just pulls in.

Yes.....Mr/Mrs bus driver, I am still here and right behind you close to the kerb.

Why did you feel you had to overtake me when you knew you were approaching a bus stop and potentially were going to have to stop.......wonderful driving there ......

donvito99

What's the issue with cyclists filtering and getting to the top of the queue? In Dublin at least they will leave you for dusht... why the irritation?

micar

ewc78 wrote: »

I know what it means.

I'm anaspeptic, phrasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.

ewc78

micar wrote: »

I know what it means.

I'm anaspeptic, phrasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.

Is that you Edmund?

micar

ewc78 wrote: »

Is that you Edmund?

Yes baldrick, it is I.

TaurenDruid

magicbastarder wrote: »

you were talking on about rules of the road, and them being there for a reason, and then asked this question. and when it was pointed out that under the road traffic laws, speed limits simply don't apply to bikes, you moved the goalposts and claimed you were talking about laws within dublin city council parks (cos, obviously, we'd have copped what you meant). then you made clear you've been driving on the M50 without realising what the speed limit is(?), and are now talking about speed limits again.
are you still talking about a fringe case regarding speed limits in council parks? or where are you going with that question?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nope.

I asked about bikes obeying speed limits, yes. My question, I think, still hasn't been answered. Andy instead got very stalkery and wants to know where I live. But still didn't answer the question.

I know perfectly well what the M50 speed limits are. I don't drive on it too often, thank ****, but there are plenty of places where it's three lanes wide.

So, yeah, magic - is it ok for bikes to break speed limits?

TaurenDruid

donvito99 wrote: »

What's the issue with cyclists filtering and getting to the top of the queue? In Dublin at least they will leave you for dusht... why the irritation?

Can't answer for anyone else, but for me, say on a narrow road, I've slowed/waited til it's safe to pass the cyclist(s), I do so, come to the lights, I stop, they squeeze past and stop (assuming it's a junction with traffic coming the other way), lights change, they pull away, and now I have to pass them again.

Like, why not take the lane behind a motor vehicle and make it safer for yourself?

dashcamdanny

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Can't answer for anyone else, but for me, say on a narrow road, I've slowed/waited til it's safe to pass the cyclist(s), I do so, come to the lights, I stop, they squeeze past and stop (assuming it's a junction with traffic coming the other way), lights change, they pull away, and now I have to pass them again.

Like, why not take the lane behind a motor vehicle and make it safer for yourself?

That's life pal. Traffic. Just like legally pulling in , in front of a cycle at a bus stop.

Let it wash over you.

And except it's war out there.

I have to say .. Plenty of cycles do hold off and stay behind if they know the road opens out.

Better Than Christ

micar wrote: »

Or the bus driver who overtakes a cyclist just as a bus stop is approaching, indicates and just pulls in.

Yes.....Mr/Mrs bus driver, I am still here and right behind you close to the kerb.

Why did you feel you had to overtake me when you knew you were approaching a bus stop and potentially were going to have to stop.......wonderful driving there ......

On most urban bus routes, you're never far from a bus stop. The only way a bus driver can be guaranteed to avoid the situation you've described is to remain behind the cyclist at all times and allow that one individual to dictate the pace of the bus and its passengers. This is a very common occurrence in the bus lane along the Stillorgan Rd.

AndrewJRenko

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Like, why not take the lane behind a motor vehicle and make it safer for yourself?

Like, why not take the lane behind the cyclist and make it safer for everyone?

What's the point in overtaking the cyclist when you know you're going to have to stop at the lights?

07Lapierre

Why do Gardai waste their time stopping ordinary, descent, law abiding, tax paying motorists and instead, go after those lawbreaking cyclists? A Total waste of Garda resources!


https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/1277497231126429696?s=21

magicbastarder

TaurenDruid wrote: »

I know perfectly well what the M50 speed limits are. I don't drive on it too often, thank ****, but there are plenty of places where it's three lanes wide.

So, yeah, magic - is it ok for bikes to break speed limits?

your previous answer showed you didn't. don't get tired carrying those goalposts.

i don't have speed limits to adhere to on my bike, so again, your question is meaningless. you keep asking it in an unqualified manner, so i will continue to answer in the manner i do. you are asking 'is it OK for cyclists to *not* break the law in the RTAs'. it's like asking me 'is it OK to drive my car, which does not meet the safety regulations which apply to scuba diving gear'.

are you asking do i think it's OK for a cyclist to go faster than a speed limit that would apply to a motorist on a particular road?

Hurrache

TaurenDruid wrote: »

I know perfectly well what the M50 speed limits are. I don't drive on it too often, thank ****, but there are plenty of places where it's three lanes wide.

Wait, what? Better check your online security, seems you've been hacked based on the below statement from you.

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Well, there's the circular one that goes all the way around Dublin that I'd use reasonably frequently.

Nah, I'm just messin, you weren't hacked. You were hoisted by your own petard and are still trying to excuse yourself after the weekend has passed.

You don't know the speed limits of a road you use frequently (or is it that you don't drive too often, excuse the confusion).

meeeeh

I think it's sad that someone would know exactly what speed limit on m50 is. It means they spend their life sitting in there. Or that they are so obsessed with it they actually studied speed limits.

There is a reason why we have speed limits signposted. I drive there couple of times per year, usually when going on holidays. Sitting in my kitchen speed limit on m50 is completely irrelevant to me. It's only relevant when I drive there.

AndrewJRenko

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nope.

I asked about bikes obeying speed limits, yes. My question, I think, still hasn't been answered. Andy instead got very stalkery and wants to know where I live. But still didn't answer the question.

I know perfectly well what the M50 speed limits are. I don't drive on it too often, thank ****, but there are plenty of places where it's three lanes wide.

So, yeah, magic - is it ok for bikes to break speed limits?

I can't answer the question until I understand it properly.

Speed limits don't apply to cyclists on the road.

So it seems that you're talking about park bye-laws, but you still haven't clarified ;

1) What park(s) you are talking about?
2) What actual rule or law you are talking about?
3) How is the rule or law communicated to cyclists - signage, or markings on the path or other?

So if can properly understand the situation, then I can answer the question.

ewc78

magicbastarder wrote: »

funny thing is that one thing many of us cyclists hate is when we're stopped at traffic lights, another cyclist comes up from behind, passes you, and then plonks themselves right in front of you.

07Lapierre wrote: »

What's worse is when the light goes green, you overtake this cyclist and when you get to the next light, They don't take the hint and do it again!

micar wrote: »

Especially when you've previously overtaken them.......FFS.

They also usually position themselves ahead of the line and are blissfully unaware the light has turned green.

And I'm the one who watching the lights and have began to move off just before the lights go green.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

What's the point in overtaking the cyclist when you know you're going to have to stop at the lights?

Indeed

magicbastarder

meeeeh wrote: »

I think it's sad that someone would know exactly what speed limit on m50 is.

uhh..

uhm...

never mind.

meeeeh

magicbastarder wrote: »

uhh..

uhm...

never mind.

It means your life is spent sitting in the traffic. (Assuming it's not some other obsession).

Stark

Why would you need to know what the speed limit is if you're stuck in traffic? It's something you need to be aware of when the traffic is free flowing.