Going to try and lose 60lbs in 28 days

Minime2.5

I'm very over weight at 302lbs . Starting tomorrow I'm going to attempt to lose 60lbs in 28 days. I'm going to use a prolong fasting routine using salt water . One last blow out tonight with the diet starting tomorrow. I'll post up daily weigh ins

Str8outtaWuhan

Minime2.5 wrote: »

I'm very over weight at 302lbs . Starting tomorrow I'm going to attempt to lose 60lbs in 28 days. I'm going to use a prolong fasting routine using salt water . One last blow out tomorrow with the diet starting tomorrow. I'll post up daily weigh ins

"prolong fasting routine using salt water" ELI5 please

Minime2.5

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

"prolong fasting routine using salt water" ELI5 please

EL15 ?

Minime2.5

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

"prolong fasting routine using salt water" ELI5 please

Explain like your 5 , Got Ya

Ok if you are very overweight you have plenty of energy on your body to go for days, weeks without food . After 48 hours your body is well within ketosis because its sustaining itself and stored energy which is primarily fat. However problems arise if you just drink pure water because you do not have access to the bodies 2 main elecrolytes Sodium and Potassium. Sodium Chloride just table salt but a higher quality version is pink Himalayan salt. Potassium chloride is the other essential electrolyte and is sometimes sold as a salt substitute called NO Salt but you can also buy it as a supplement from Amazon.

I'm going to basically put 5g of both of these salts in 2 litres of water and sip on it throughout the day

Still waters

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Tell me how

Minime2.5 wrote: »

I'm very over weight at 302lbs . Starting tomorrow I'm going to attempt to lose 60lbs in 28 days. I'm going to use a prolong fasting routine using salt water . One last blow out tonight with the diet starting tomorrow. I'll post up daily weigh ins

60lbs in 28 days equates to approx (very approximately in a completely uneducated way) of 7,000 calorie deficit/day. Even if you consume zero calories per day (which makes no sense), you probably need to find about 5,000 above what you currently burn through activity.

Very crude figures would indicate that that would take approximately 3 hours cycling per day. Have you factored this in to your targets?

Focus on building something sustainable, not just short term draconian targets.

Minime2.5

Tell me how wrote: »

60lbs in 28 days equates to approx (very approximately in a completely uneducated way) of 7,000 calorie deficit/day. Even if you consume zero calories per day (which makes no sense), you probably need to find about 5,000 above what you currently burn through activity.

Very crude figures would indicate that that would take approximately 3 hours cycling per day. Have you factored this in to your targets?

Focus on building something sustainable, not just short term draconian targets.

You do realise at my weight that I'm holding a lot of water. Half the weight I lose in the next 28 days will in fact be water so your calorie calculation is way off . But yes your right I'll be eating very little but I didn't create this to start a debate . I'll be doing it regardless of what people think . 28 days isnt a long time so we will know who is right soon enough.Feel free to ask questions

To add I'll be doing 10k steps walking daily

Str8outtaWuhan

so you wont take any food for 4 weeks, just salty water?

Rodney Bathgate

Are you big boned, OP?

padser

Good luck with it!

I certainly wouldn't knock you before you have even started!

Danzy

Sounds like you are building a diet designed to fail.

Try losing 60 over 3 months and the same over the following 3 months and repeat.

You can eat to be full but eat low calories.

Greatly reducing food intake tells the body not to lose weight, that food is in short supply so conserve weight.

Do an approach that can last.

Good luck, you'll get there definitely, I think it'll be permanent over months.

LessOutragePlz

Might I suggest that you take a more realistic and measured approach. There's a very high probability that you'll put all the weight back on in the 2-3 months after the end of those 28 days.
What's the plan at the end of those 28 days?

60lbs in 28 days? That's a bit mad.

I mean.. Why not 63lbs?

bassy

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Might I suggest that you take a more realistic and measured approach. There's a very high probability that you'll put all the weight back on in the 2-3 months after the end of those 28 days.
What's the plan at the end of those 28 days?

a fullblowout

jimbobaloobob

How often will you take readings of weight OP?

Do you know your body composition before starting? I think it would be interesting to know these things regularly throughout your effort (Id be interested that is) what about blood pressure could you collect that data too?
Wont pass any judgement because as you say your doing it anyhow.
Best of luck with it.

Minime2.5

Danzy wrote: »

Greatly reducing food intake tells the body not to lose weight, that food is in short supply so conserve weight.
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This isn't true . But sur we will both know in 4 weeks who was right

Minime2.5

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Are you big boned, OP?

No one is big boned or are you trying to be sarcastic . The human skeleton weights very little

Minime2.5

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

How often will you take readings of weight OP?

Do you know your body composition before starting? I think it would be interesting to know these things regularly throughout your effort (Id be interested that is) what about blood pressure could you collect that data too?
Wont pass any judgement because as you say your doing it anyhow.
Best of luck with it.

Daily weighings

I had a dexa last year and was 40% by. Was a little lighter

Danzy

Minime2.5 wrote: »

This isn't true . But sur we will both know in 4 weeks who was right

Maybe. I hope it goes well for you and like every plan it can be adjusted in time or built further.

Minime2.5

padser wrote: »

Good luck with it!

I certainly wouldn't knock you before you have even started!

Ones diet may be forever but Dieting as in the process of losing fat isn't . When I get to 240lbs after these 4 weeks I'll still be way too heavy for my height but I'll be tapering up my calories to lose a little slower

Minime2.5

Danzy wrote: »

Maybe. I hope it goes well for you and like every plan it can be adjusted in time or built further.

Correct .

Minime2.5

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

so you wont take any food for 4 weeks, just salty water?

I'll break my fast when needed with 500g of vegetables and 100g of meat . Small refeed

Rodney Bathgate

Will you revert to your previous eating habits once you lose the 60 lbs?

Minime2.5

Deleted User wrote: »

60lbs in 28 days? That's a bit mad.

I mean.. Why not 63lbs?

It might actually be 64

Minime2.5

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Will you revert to your previous eating habits once you lose the 60 lbs?

No I'll continue to diet a little less aggressively until I reach my goal of 180lbs

Minime2.5

Danzy wrote: »

Maybe. I hope it goes well for you and like every plan it can be adjusted in time or built further.

Yes it will be adjusted . This plan is only for very fat people

Minime2.5

I'm open to answering everyone question . I have a world of knowledge when it comes to this stuff . I realise what I'm proposing is extreme . I might fail but I'm hoping this thread will be a big motivator for me. People talk about doing a diet that's sustainable and something I can do forever. The process of dieting should be different depending on current bf levels. I can diet very hard now because I have over 100lbs to lose. As I lose weight my calories will go up. If / when I have only 20lbs to lose I'll be eating way way more . Please give me these 28 days . It will help motivate me

Slumberland

I never heard of this method. Wishing you success and will look forward to seeing your losses

yabadabado

Is it possible to lose 60lbs in 28 days?
Thats more or less 1kg per day.

Minime2.5

Minime2.5 wrote: »

It might actually be 64

Ah come off it. You had me rooting for you at 60. Easily achievable. 63 was my trying to up the challenge, but now you want 64? Completely unrealistic and you haven't a hope! :mad:





In all seriousness, though, these kind of weight losses, once you have a bit of weight to actually lose, are entirely possible. I'd drop a stone in a week if i even made a half-hearted attempt.

Just be prepared for the consequences of it - you will get irrationally angry, and mood swings galore. But if you can fight through the first week, you might not be too bad. It won't kill you, but you just have to be sensible and not be ready to pour 3 big macs and large chips down your throat as your first meal back. You have to ease back into eating properly. Bit of soup, etc.

It's do-able. Not entirely recommended, but entirely possible.

jimbobaloobob

So it all starts tomorrow?

What’s the food intake tonight so?

Minime2.5

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

So it all starts tomorrow?

What’s the food intake tonight so?

Why does that matter if it starts tomorrow

Buddhas belly

good luck op. l did keto a few years back. first week was hell (keto flu) but after that it was fine. best I ever felt. thinking of trying again this coming week. fasting can be harsh. keep us posted and keep an eye on your electolytes.

jimbobaloobob

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Why does that matter if it starts tomorrow

When you say in your first post One last blow out and it starts tomorrow I’m just curious what a blow out is and why not avoid that blowout if possible

colm_mcm

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Why does that matter if it starts tomorrow

Because if you were actually serious about sustainably losing weight, you wouldn’t be stuffing your face tonight.

Minime2.5

A bottle of wine and a pizza

shaveAbullock

How will you be providing your brain and red blood cells with energy since they can not not metabolise ketones?
Have you factored how much muscle will be broken down to provide the needed glucose.

Minime2.5

shaveAbullock wrote: »

How will you be providing your brain and red blood cells with energy since they can not not metabolise ketones?
Have you factored how much muscle will be broken down to provide the needed glucose.

Why do you think we store body fat. For the crack? It's nature's way of preparing us for a famine

Muscle loss is really only a concern if you've been training alot

Regards the bro science question. Your making a statement and assuming it's truth. Having you ever heard of gluconeogenisus. Sorry if I've spelt that wrong. Any way we will see in 28 days whether I'm successful or not

Slumberland

Enjoy your last treat. Don’t give up! For lots of people the first few days of a diet are easiest but for me I’m the opposite. It’s hard for me to start. I half arsedly started last Monday and as a result know it’s not easy at all.

eviltwin

The fact you are starting a weight loss plan with a blow out is worrying. Look I wish you all the best with it but unless you address what got you to your current weight how can you be sure you won't go back there.

shaveAbullock

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Why do you think we store body fat. For the crack? It's nature's way of preparing us for a famine

Muscle loss is really only a concern if you've been training alot

Regards the bro science question. Your making a statement and assuming it's truth. Having you ever heard of gluconeogenisus. Sorry if I've spelt that wrong. Any way we will see in 28 days whether I'm successful or not

What is bro science? Do you mean bio science?

Gluconeogenesis is exactly what I'm talking about, it's the process of converting protein to glucose. The protein comes from breaking down muscle. This happens even if you're fat as your brain and red blood cells need glucose. Our bodies storing fat is to deal with times of scarce food, not starvation.

AdrianII

First off.

Good luck.

Few questions.
Are you going to be doing exercise, if so what type?You will not be able to live off salt water if exercising.

Why not reduce feeds down to veg and meat twice a day as opposed to a full fast.

Why a month, why not aim for 30 this month, 30 next month, a drastic change like that cant be good for you.

But all the best and if you dont hit a loss of 60 dont be disappointed go again next month.

KyussB

The muscle loss combined with the rebound (or crash-out) coming off this 'diet', I'd fully expect to leave you heavier than you are now within 6 months.

Minime2.5

AdrianII wrote: »

First off.

Good luck.

Few questions.
Are you going to be doing exercise, if so what type?You will not be able to live off salt water if exercising.

Why not reduce feeds down to veg and meat twice a day as opposed to a full fast.

Why a month, why not aim for 30 this month, 30 next month, a drastic change like that cant be good for you.

But all the best and if you dont hit a loss of 60 dont be disappointed go again next month.

Because my appetite isn't great at present. If I'm hungry I'll eat

Minime2.5

KyussB wrote: »

The muscle loss combined with the rebound (or crash-out) coming off this 'diet', I'd fully expect to leave you heavier than you are now within 6 months.

We will see . I think your pandering to what you think you know buy hey it's only 4 weeks

Minime2.5

Day 1
Weight- 298.4lbs
Waist-51 inches *measured around belly button in a relaxed state

Cath54

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Day 1
Weight- 298.4lbs
Waist-51 inches *measured around belly button in a relaxed state

Best of luck. Keep us posted how you're getting on. Hope it works out for you.

tedpan

Minime2.5 wrote:

Day 1 Weight- 298.4lbs Waist-51 inches *measured around belly button in a relaxed state

What height are you OP? Your waist is smaller than I expected.

Minime2.5

tedpan wrote: »

What height are you OP? Your waist is smaller than I expected.

Im 6ft 0

namenotavailablE

Apart from the daily weight measurements, will you post your daily food intake if any and your general feeling about the process each day?
I could do with finding the motivation to lose close to 40 pounds myself so this enormous effort may be of interest to me and others.

tedpan

namenotavailabl wrote:

Apart from the daily weight measurements, will you post your daily food intake if any and your general feeling about the process each day? I could do with finding the motivation to lose close to 40 pounds myself so this enormous effort may be of interest to me and others.

Would also like to see day by day pics, or a video diary. You could go viral if successful.