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A fry-up in the morning. Is it unhealthy?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    Boxty is more a potato cake than a pancake. The real pancakes are on the Ulster.

    Potato cake...pancake...fairy cakes..... chocolate eclairs, who cares.
    Cakes don't belong on a proper fry-up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Barely heated, underripe half a salad tomato is a pointless inclusion and I can understand why people don't eat them.

    But nice ripe cherry tomatoes, halved, seasoned, drizzled with oil and properly grilled are heavily with a fry.

    Now some things that might upset some people:

    The above tomatoes are even nicer with a thin sliver of garlic on each half before grilling.

    Streaky rashers all day over back rashers. I will, however, accept a breakfast with both streaky and back.

    Toast should be made from good quality sourdough, preferably wholemeal. Never, ever sliced pan.

    There must be black and white pudding - not either or. Pudding is very subjective - even the bog standard ones are acceptable. Ideally, I want a pudding that I've never tasted before.

    There must be a potato element. Sliced, fried potato; hash browns; potato rosti or even chips are all acceptable.

    Sausages must be plain. No spicy or garlic and herb sausages with breakfast, please. I like jumbo sausages but the likes of Denny or Ispíni are acceptable, entry level sausages.

    Tea with breakfast.
    Coffee after breakfast.

    With decent grilled tomatoes, no sauce should be necessary but if you must, brown sauce or mustard are almost acceptable.
    It's also reasonable to put some hot sauce on your eggs - Tabasco or Frank's or any other vinegar based hot sauce.

    Eggs must always be runny. Always. Whether poached or fried. If scrambled must be freshly cooked and just barely cooked.

    Potato farls/scones can be a nice addition when travelling as can be haggis and even square sausages.

    Obviously, real butter and not any kind of margarine or dairy spread.

    Oh, and nothing deep fried. Nothing.

    I'm intrigued by this talk of fish sauce. Instinctively, I balk at the idea but a drop on each cherry tomato half before grilling could make a real flavour bomb!

    And baked beans can fcuk off. Completely.


    In emergencies, rather than the ungainly and common breakfast roll, try a sandwich on brown bread of bacon, hash browns and brown sauce.
    It's quite delightful.

    This thread had brought out the Angus in several of us.

    Baked beans fcuk off.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like my toast the way all toast should be. Raw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Potato cake...pancake...fairy cakes..... chocolate eclairs, who cares.
    Cakes don't belong on a proper fry-up.

    Neither do beans, pal. Beans are the food of choice of hippies, students, and communists. Mushrooms and tomatoes have more of a shout than beans do.

    A fry consists of rashers, sausages, black and white pudding, fried eggs.

    Even though I do like grilled tomatoes. Lovely with plenty of pepper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,298 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    How about potato waffles?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    Neither do beans, pal. Beans are the food of choice of hippies, students, and communists. Mushrooms and tomatoes have more of a shout than beans do.

    A fry consists of rashers, sausages, black and white pudding, fried eggs.

    Even though I do like grilled tomatoes. Lovely with plenty of pepper.

    You must be French, or at best, Lithuanian.
    Grilled tomatoes indeed.
    GTFOH.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    branie2 wrote: »
    How about potato waffles?

    They’re awffley versatile.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    branie2 wrote: »
    How about potato waffles?

    In emergencies only.
    Better than no potato element.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    branie2 wrote: »
    How about potato waffles?

    You're having a laugh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I've written the definitive guide to the modern cooked Irish breakfast - at no small effort, I might add.
    Why are people still posting in this thread?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,298 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I usually have waffles with sausages on a Saturday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    branie2 wrote: »
    I usually have waffles with sausages on a Saturday

    I usually have a can of Coke and a Mars bar on Saturday, so that means neither of us have a fry-up on Saturday.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,303 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    branie2 wrote: »
    How about potato waffles?

    Do your parents know your using their phone to post on the internet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    branie2 wrote: »
    How about potato waffles?

    Have you been invited for dinner to Sally Webster’s house?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've written the definitive guide to the modern cooked Irish breakfast - at no small effort, I might add.
    Why are people still posting in this thread?

    To show you how wrong you are :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    To show you how wrong you are :D

    Please be more specific.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Please be more specific.

    Your insistence on including a "potato element" is, quite frankly, stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tec Diver


    I made myself a bit of a fry earlier and can't see how it was that unhealthy.. Half a teaspoon of olive oil. Onions. Garlic. Mushrooms. Cherry tomatoes. Slice of bacon. Scrambled eggs. Slice of brown bread toast. All cooked on a low to medium heat with a dash of fish sauce.

    You always hear that fries are terrible but I'm not seeing it. I'm not overweight so don't care about some bacon, and the rest could be put into any "healthy" meal. The fish sauce has sodium but I only used a tiny bit.

    Does the mantra that they're a heart attack on a plate come from them being cooked in loads of crappy oil or lard? I definitely made some very unhealthy ones in the past with tonnes of oil.
    I've been having fried bacon & eggs almost every morning for over eight years. Never felt as much energy throughout the morning, sometimes don't bother with lunch if I'm not hungry. I have minimal carbs, which takes getting used to, so I'd cut out the bread completely.
    Sodium is a required nutrient, between 2.5 and 5 grams per day. You'll have issues if you don't get enough salt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Giraffe Box


    Your insistence on including a "potato element" is, quite frankly, stupid.

    Hear, hear!

    Spuds are for stews, or boxty type fairy cakes, not fry-ups.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Hear, hear!

    Spuds are for stews, or boxty type fairy cakes, not fry-ups.

    Peasants, the pair of you!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    Gonna add to the potato controversy.
    Left over mash fried in the pan so it can soak up some bacon fat.
    As mentioned a potato waffle if no mash available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,303 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    sundodger5 wrote: »
    Gonna add to the potato controversy.
    Left over mash fried in the pan so it can soak up some bacon fat.
    As mentioned a potato waffle if no mash available.

    Left over mash, bit of white pudding an egg salt and pepper All mixed up and pan fried like a burger is lovely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    sundodger5 wrote: »
    Gonna add to the potato controversy.
    Left over mash fried in the pan so it can soak up some bacon fat.
    As mentioned a potato waffle if no mash available.

    I'm OK with this.
    Perhaps form it into a potato cake, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Your insistence on including a "potato element" is, quite frankly, stupid.

    Fried potatoes are lovely with a fry. Some onions, garlic powder and paprika. Probably a bit avant garde for somw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    sundodger5 wrote: »
    Gonna add to the potato controversy.
    Left over mash fried in the pan so it can soak up some bacon fat.
    As mentioned a potato waffle if no mash available.
    salmocab wrote: »
    Left over mash, bit of white pudding an egg salt and pepper All mixed up and pan fried like a burger is lovely.
    I'm OK with this.
    Perhaps form it into a potato cake, though.
    Ipso wrote: »
    Fried potatoes are lovely with a fry. Some onions, garlic powder and paprika. Probably a bit avant garde for somw.

    I too would welcome the potato element to a fry up.

    Perhaps in the format of 'Bubble & Squeak' as they have in the UK?

    Not chips though. They're strictly Dinner food.

    Mushrooms or beans I'd be grand with aswell.

    The 'core' ingredients would be as follows..

    2 sausages (Clonakilty good)

    2 Rashers (Smoked medalloins good)

    Black & White pud.

    1 or 2 Runny fried eggs. (for dippage)

    Half a slice of fried bread. (Added to the pan last to soak up the flavour)

    Soda bread. (The health bit)

    Toast. (optional)

    Add Aromat or Brown sauce as you like.

    All this will be washed down with a big mug(s) of proper builders tea. (none of that coffee muck!)

    And we're good to go.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doesn’t bubble and squeak have cabbage in it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    Doesn’t bubble and squeak have cabbage in it?

    It could have a multitude of ingredients really.

    Usually it was made up of leftover veg from the Sunday dinner.

    Potato being one of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Beans do not belong anywhere near a fry. Simple.

    I disagree, but each to their own. What's your stance on mushrooms friend?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm OK with this.
    Perhaps form it into a potato cake, though.

    Would you need to add flour or breadcrumbs or something to make it dry enough to fry?

    I've seen someone do it and it was just heated mash. There was no brown crust because it was too wet to fry properly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Would you need to add flour or breadcrumbs or something to make it dry enough to fry?

    I've seen someone do it and it was just heated mash. There was no brown crust because it was too wet to fry properly.

    But of flour when forming it should do the trick. Some chives would be good.


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