Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Penfailed

JL555 wrote: »

Allowing the DIY stores to open up has been a good idea, for anyone willing to get into a long queue. Then I thought, sure I'll order online and get it sent out to me. Went onto woodies.ie and they have a daily allowance of online orders, tried each day and still got the message saying they have reached their daily limit. Even tried just after midnight, still the same thing.

So I tried other online stores in Ireland and the garden power tool and related accessories I'm after was almost double the price in some other shops as it was in woodies, or not available at all.
Then, of course went to amazon.co.uk and placed the order with a UK supplier, will have my items next week plus saved on shipping and overall cost

Irish businesses looking to open up again are not making it easy for themselves even when they do open up. My money, for the second time over the last couple of weeks went to a UK supplier rather than one based here in Ireland.

Yeah...but lockdown will be blamed for companies failing.

Blaze420

bush wrote: »

You only have to look out the window to see people don't really care anymore. Children having a 5 a side soccer match here.

Good to hear the kids are getting back to normality like the rest of us. The ball is in the governments court now to make the speed of the phases catch up with the public, because the roadmap is dead in the water as of now.

ElvenAl

Search for the following "80s aids advert videos" and see the hysterical scaremongering lies which were promoted. Why do you think this is any different?

Spanish Eyes

To those who replied to me earlier, I know it's frustrating.

Let's see how opening things up in other countries works regarding spikes and so on. THEN go for it. We are fortunate to be in a position to see how it works out elsewhere.

I'm no killjoy. At all.

VonLuck

bush wrote: »

You only have to look out the window to see people don't really care anymore. Children having a 5 a side soccer match here.

What is it with this thread's determination to present anecdotal evidence as fact?

Do you think that the more you say "the lockdown is over", the more likely it'll become true?

Penfailed

RobitTV wrote: »

Dr Tony Holohan says they are advising against indoor gatherings

Good luck with that one Tony. The weather is going to fantastic for the next few days and people are going to visit friends and family and that's the end of the story.

Most people are now travelling beyond the 5km and we are already starting to break the 5km nonsense before it even ends in June.

People aren't going to be locked away when the weather is going to be 25-26° in some areas of the country.

Holohan knows in his head the game is up.

Surely, with the fantastic weather, people will be meeting outdoors rather than indoors?

bush

VonLuck wrote: »

What is it with this thread's determination to present anecdotal evidence as fact?

Do you think that the more you say "the lockdown is over", the more likely it'll become true?

Ah right ill go off what polls say instead of what I see with my own eyes.

Pitch n Putt

uli84 wrote: »

Good God, im so scarred what nonsense they will come up with when it comes to schools re-opening

When i hear the word “roadmap” I know it’ll be no good, making decisions so much ahead will probably result in similar crap like Leaving Certs

As someone stated already when asked.

What’s the best way to get kids back to school in September ?

The answer that was given was - It’s simple open the doors and let them in.

Maybe if that logic was applied to more things we would be better served than creating obstacles around everything.

RobitTV

Penfailed wrote: »

Surely, with the fantastic weather, people will be meeting outdoors rather than indoors?

I said earlier that some people might enter the house at night perhaps when it starts getting chillier outside. There will be a good amount of parties happening this weekend for sure.

JRant

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

To those who replied to me earlier, I know it's frustrating.

Let's see how opening things up in other countries works regarding spikes and so on. THEN go for it. We are fortunate to be in a position to see how it works out elsewhere.

I'm no killjoy. At all.

I can understand where the frustration is coming from. Harris said at the start of this that they were "mindful" people would only tolerate these severe restrictions for a short period of time. That was 2.5 months ago and all we hear on the daily briefings are "the numbers are not where we would like them to be". That is not good enough anymore.

We need to get back to a level of normality now for the simple reason that it's not healthy to live under this type of system for long periods of time.

FixitFelix

Penfailed wrote: »

Surely, with the fantastic weather, people will be meeting outdoors rather than indoors?

My thoughts exactly

FixitFelix

Penfailed wrote: »

Surely, with the fantastic weather, people will be meeting outdoors rather than indoors?

My thoughts exactly

Ginger n Lemon

JRant wrote: »

I can understand where the frustration is coming from. Harris said at the start of this that they were "mindful" people would only tolerate these severe restrictions for a short period of time. That was 2.5 months ago and all we hear on the daily briefings are "the numbers are not where we would like them to be". That is not good enough anymore.

We need to get back to a level of normality now for the simple reason that it's not healthy to live under this type of system for long periods of time.

It isnt. Thankfully FF are getting active now and are disputing these nonsense restrictions like 5km 20km and 2 metre social distancing rule.

It would be very surprising if theres no pro activeness in our plan by end of 5th of June. Serious political pressure is mounting

Penfailed

fin12 wrote: »

No the nearest beach to me is like 45 mins drive.

Stay within your 5km like you are supposed to.

VonLuck

bush wrote: »

Ah right ill go off what polls say instead of what I see with my own eyes.

You do realise how ridiculous that statement is, right?

Do you really think a sample of people at a local amenity is representative of the whole of Ireland? If anyone was to break the restrictions that's exactly where they'd be!

How many housing estates and apartment blocks have you peered into only to see people sitting at home or in the garden?

SusieBlue

Sad to see another local (to me) business announcing closure.
I know the topic of hairdressers is ever sensitive around these parts, but this salon owner said she had an engineer assess their premises to see how they could operate with social distancing in place after July 20th.

In order to abide by government guidelines, they would have to reduce their amount of chairs from 10 to 2, meaning they could only ever have 2 staff working at any one time and letting the remainder of the staff go.

In order to break even on her running costs she would have to work an 84 hour week, which isn’t sustainable or practical for her as a single mother.

Very sad to see and probably the first of many. Buildings weren’t designed & business plans weren’t made with social distancing in mind, and quite a lot of them simply won’t be able to operate with these new rules in place. It won’t be worth their while.

Penfailed

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I'll be flying to either Italy or Cyprus next month, they can get my money.

I can even get my haircut while over there

So you're going to spend your money elsewhere to spite the Irish economy? ...or were you going on holiday this year anyway?

Spanish Eyes

JRant wrote: »

I can understand where the frustration is coming from. Harris said at the start of this that they were "mindful" people would only tolerate these severe restrictions for a short period of time. That was 2.5 months ago and all we hear on the daily briefings are "the numbers are not where we would like them to be". That is not good enough anymore.

We need to get back to a level of normality now for the simple reason that it's not healthy to live under this type of system for long periods of time.

Yes I know this. Tail wagging dog comes to mind. Holohan is in charge really because there is no REAL Government anymore, just a collection of Ministers and a lame duck Taoiseach. I get it.

Still, things are opening up re visiting people and places whether they like it or not.

Kinda hard to keep people down forever. I get that. But still... a bit of caution might be warranted to see how things go elsewhere. Just me, and I hope you all enjoy the BH weekend.

stephenjmcd

Cracks starting to appear now

A consultant doctor on the State's Covid-19 Expert Advisory Group (EAG) has said that the two-metre distancing guideline is "paralysing the country" and that students are being "unfairly compromised" by the continued closure of schools.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2020/0528/1143259-two-metre-rule-paralysing-country-expert-group-member/

prunudo

SusieBlue wrote: »

Sad to see another local (to me) business announcing closure.
I know the topic of hairdressers is ever sensitive around these parts, but this salon owner said she had an engineer assess their premises to see how they could operate with social distancing in place after July 20th.

In order to abide by government guidelines, they would have to reduce their amount of chairs from 10 to 2, meaning they could only ever have 2 staff working at any one time and letting the remainder of the staff go.

In order to break even on her running costs she would have to work an 84 hour week, which isn’t sustainable or practical for her as a single mother.

Very sad to see and probably the first of many. Buildings weren’t designed & business plans weren’t made with social distancing in mind, and quite a lot of them simply won’t be able to operate with these new rules in place. It won’t be worth their while.

If you know her, tell her to hold firm. Don't pull the plug yet because the restrictions will be very different in 3 or 4 months time. The engineer can only go off current guidelines.

SEPT 23 1989

SusieBlue wrote: »

Sad to see another local (to me) business announcing closure.
I know the topic of hairdressers is ever sensitive around these parts, but this salon owner said she had an engineer assess their premises to see how they could operate with social distancing in place after July 20th.

In order to abide by government guidelines, they would have to reduce their amount of chairs from 10 to 2, meaning they could only ever have 2 staff working at any one time and letting the remainder of the staff go.

In order to break even on her running costs she would have to work an 84 hour week, which isn’t sustainable or practical for her as a single mother.

Very sad to see and probably the first of many. Buildings weren’t designed & business plans weren’t made with social distancing in mind, and quite a lot of them simply won’t be able to operate with these new rules in place. It won’t be worth their while.

No small business public on premises can turn a profit now

That's why we are in the worst recession since the foundation of the state

road_high

Penfailed wrote: »

So you're going to spend your money elsewhere to spite the Irish economy? ...or were you going on holiday this year anyway?

Well seen as you can’t spend it here outside 5 km...what else would you suggest? Tent in the back garden?

Micky 32

Penfailed wrote: »

So you're going to spend your money elsewhere to spite the Irish economy? ...or were you going on holiday this year anyway?

Or maybe he made a decision that he’d like to visit those countries. Who the hell are you to tell him where he should and shouldn’t go...

road_high

SusieBlue wrote: »

Sad to see another local (to me) business announcing closure.
I know the topic of hairdressers is ever sensitive around these parts, but this salon owner said she had an engineer assess their premises to see how they could operate with social distancing in place after July 20th.

In order to abide by government guidelines, they would have to reduce their amount of chairs from 10 to 2, meaning they could only ever have 2 staff working at any one time and letting the remainder of the staff go.

In order to break even on her running costs she would have to work an 84 hour week, which isn’t sustainable or practical for her as a single mother.

Very sad to see and probably the first of many. Buildings weren’t designed & business plans weren’t made with social distancing in mind, and quite a lot of them simply won’t be able to operate with these new rules in place. It won’t be worth their while.

So sad to see this ladies business and all our staff thrown on the scrap heap by ridiculous bureaucracy and idiotic (Lack of) governance. Really annoyed to see these people suffer. Not a single public service job was lost....

VonLuck

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Cracks starting to appear now

A consultant doctor on the State's Covid-19 Expert Advisory Group (EAG) has said that the two-metre distancing guideline is "paralysing the country" and that students are being "unfairly compromised" by the continued closure of schools.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2020/0528/1143259-two-metre-rule-paralysing-country-expert-group-member/

The main problem with the 2m rule is that it's in place because people treat it as 1m. If they said 1m, everyone would be practically standing face to face thinking they are complying.

The knock on effect is that it's impacting businesses where 1m is more logical and enforceable.

road_high

Micky 32 wrote: »

Or maybe he made a decision that he’d like to visit those countries. Who the hell are you to tell him where he should and shouldn’t go...

The worst kind of Karens. Country is full to overflowing with these sad curtain twitchers unfortunately

road_high

VonLuck wrote: »

The main problem with the 2m rule is that it's in place because people treat it as 1m. If they said 1m, everyone would be practically standing face to face thinking they are complying.

The knock on effect is that it's impacting businesses where 1m is more logical and enforceable.

Rubbish. Everywhere I’ve been to lots of places and it’s 2m marked allover the floors. Not 1 m

Penfailed

road_high wrote: »

Well seen as you can’t spend it here outside 5 km...what else would you suggest? Tent in the back garden?

He's not going until next month. It'll be 20km then...but yeah everyone up in arms on here about the damage being done to the Irish economy and then bragging about spending their money in foreign climes. It's a great look.

Penfailed

Micky 32 wrote: »

Or maybe he made a decision that he’d like to visit those countries. Who the hell are you to tell him where he should and shouldn’t go...

I'm not telling him where he should or shouldn't go. Just don't post about the damage being done to the Irish economy and then boast about spending your money elsewhere.

VonLuck

road_high wrote: »

Rubbish. Everywhere I’ve been to lots of places and it’s 2m marked allover the floors. Not 1 m

I'm saying the general public, not businesses.