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My garden Room Build

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    #182
    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    :eek::eek:



    Ok, all the bits about the electric .. well I can see they are written in Engish but that all means absolutely zip to me.

    I'll attach my full build materials list in a minute. I optimistically thought I could do it for 4 ish when I started, I didnt. You might fair better !

    Best of luck with it and publish pics please !

    In short he's doing it wrong, it'll work but it's not right.


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    #183
    RobAMerc
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    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    In short he's doing it wrong, it'll work but it's not right.

    thats not what I meant - I hope it didnt come across like that! I've no clue if it will work, and I am certainly in no position to tell him otherwise !


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    #184
    dodzy
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    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    In short he's doing it wrong, it'll work but it's not right.
    I guess you’re a sparks and I appreciate your input and knowledge but how exactly is feeding off a spur ‘doing it wrong’?


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    #185
    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    dodzy wrote: »
    I guess you’re a sparks and I appreciate your input and knowledge but how exactly is feeding off a spur ‘doing it wrong’?

    Actually my reply will only drag the ops thread off topic. I'd reconsider wiring to DB.


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    #186
    dodzy
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    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Actually my reply will only drag the ops thread off topic. I'd reconsider wiring to DB.
    On the contrary, I think the OP and other interested followers would be keen to know and have a genuine interest in the topic. It’s great that skilled people like yourself post around these parts - great advice to be picked up for the avid DIYers and I for one always appreciate qualified lads sharing knowledge.

    The location of my CU is typical for a 3 bed semi... just inside the hall door on the party wall, sitting on blobbed board. Running 4sq (or 6) from here would be a royal pain and impossible to do neatly without significant work. I’d happily take the option if it was a straightforward run but it’s not unfortunately. I ran 2.5sq from the spur many years ago through conduit along the top of the dividing garden wall and it’s neatly buried over the years with ivy so safe enough.

    Anyway, 4 days invested. I’ll throw up pics shortly :)

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    #187
    RobAMerc
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    good stuff dodzy - you are flying along !


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    #188
    RobAMerc
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    materials list added


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    #189
    RobAMerc
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    quick questions dodzy, I presume you'll be taking those walls back down to put the sheeting and cladding on ?


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    #190
    Bonzo Delaney
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    materials list added
    How many working hours do you reckon you put in to it over all ?


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    #191
    RobAMerc
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    Bonzo Delaney wrote: »
    How many working hours do you reckon you put in to it over all ?

    hmm.. I can think of about 6 full Saturdays I put in. there is also a number of other days here and there and many after work hours. So I would imagine its close to 13 or 14 full days - but that could be way off, sorry.


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    #192
    Aidan Harney
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    hmm.. I can think of about 6 full Saturdays I put in. there is also a number of other days here and there and many after work hours. So I would imagine its close to 13 or 14 full days - but that could be way off, sorry.





    Good afternoon,
    I'm making this post as one of the many silent onlookers of this thread.
    Can I pull you on the use of the word sorry in closing your last post. Don't be sorry, everything here doesn't need to be bang on, anything you put up is useful as a guide to others, if it's spot on then all the better but your putting up photos and descriptions is brilliant and very much appreciated, it's only right that you're not gonna be able to answer everything for everyone.

    Keep up the good work. You're giving a lot of people the confidence and the bit of a push they might need themselves.
    Good luck.


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    #193
    kippy
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    Aidan Harney wrote: »
    Good afternoon,
    I'm making this post as one of the many silent onlookers of this thread.
    Can I pull you on the use of the word sorry in closing your last post. Don't be sorry, everything here doesn't need to be bang on, anything you put up is useful as a guide to others, if it's spot on then all the better but your putting up photos and descriptions is brilliant and very much appreciated, it's only right that you're not gonna be able to answer everything for everyone.

    Keep up the good work. You're giving a lot of people the confidence and the bit of a push they might need themselves.
    Good luck.
    Agreed. No need to apologise for anything.


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    #194
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    materials list added

    I just read this entire list even though I couldn't build a Lego tower nevermind something like this but I'm hooked on this thread!


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    #195
    dodzy
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    good stuff dodzy - you are flying along !
    RobAMerc wrote: »
    quick questions dodzy, I presume you'll be taking those walls back down to put the sheeting and cladding on ?

    Good spot, but no. If you look close, you’ll see a double stud at center rear. I made this frame in 2 sections so basically when I want to wall it out, I just ‘open the gate’ so to speak, slide in the 8x4 sheets and fit from behind. I left a 20” perimeter for access/inspection & maintenance. I’m not a fat lad, so plenty of room in that :)

    Done for the day. Another 8 hrs in. Walled and noggin’d out. 2nd head in for roof support. Now the debate on french doors. Need 2 sets. Have to move on something tomorrow! Those 2 items will of course be the largest spend per item. Knew that going in. Ah well.

    Word to any potential shed builders....whatever quantity of screws you factor in to your materials list....double it!

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    #196
    RobAMerc
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    dodzy wrote: »
    Good spot, but no. If you look close, you’ll see a double stud at center rear. I made this frame in 2 sections so basically when I want to wall it out, I just ‘open the gate’ so to speak, slide in the 8x4 sheets and fit from behind. I left a 20” perimeter for access/inspection & maintenance. I’m not a fat lad, so plenty of room in that :)

    you must be built like a ladder ! :)
    What have you in mind for the cladding ?


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    #197
    dodzy
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    you must be built like a ladder ! :)
    What have you in mind for the cladding ?

    Hard to say Rob. This is unfortunately where the material costs increase. I’m €1300 in to this point (this cost includes the 50mm PIR sheets for all the walls and the OSB for the front of the build (currently under a tarp in the front garden).

    Treated 144mm shiplap as a finishing timber will probably cost me circa €600. I don’t mind cheaping out on the sides and back as it won’t be seen as long as it’s durable. Was looking at zero maintenance cladding/fascia earlier on line form an Irish company- nice site....but at over €40 per mtr, that won’t be happening. Happy for suggestions from anyone following your thread!


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    #198
    RobAMerc
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    I am about to start putting this up - the lad selling it is dead on and you can deal with him a bit



    I'll be posting photos tomorrow coz I have 2 hrs free in the morning and I might get cracking on it


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    #199
    GreeBo
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    @dodzy
    A cable in conduit, I'm assuming plastic, buried in ivy atop a wall isn't what I would call safe. Very easy for someone to sever that while hacking away the ivy in a few years...


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    #200
    dodzy
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    you must be built like a ladder ! :)
    What have you in mind for the cladding ?

    Hard to say Rob. This is unfortunately where the material costs increase. I’m €1300 in to this point (this cost includes the 50mm PIR sheets for all the walls and the OSB for the front of the build (currently under a tarp in the front garden).

    Treated 144mm shiplap as a finishing timber will probably cost me circa €600. I don’t mind cheaping out on the sides and back as it won’t be seen as long as it’s durable. Was looking at zero maintenance cladding/fascia earlier on line form an Irish company- nice site....but at over €40 per mtr, that won’t be happening. Happy for suggestions from anyone following your thread!


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    #201
    dodzy
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    GreeBo wrote: »
    @dodzy
    A cable in conduit, I'm assuming plastic, buried in ivy atop a wall isn't what I would call safe. Very easy for someone to sever that while hacking away the ivy in a few years...
    Never assume.


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    #202
    GreeBo
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    dodzy wrote: »
    Never assume.


    5GUK7_AS01?$mdmain$
    Fair enough so!

    Did that work out cheaper overall than SWA and how long is the run? Experiencing any voltage drop with only 2.5mm2?


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    #203
    Class MayDresser
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    Maybe I missed it Dodzy, what are you thinking broadband wise?


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    #204
    dodzy
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    GreeBo wrote: »
    Fair enough so!

    Did that work out cheaper overall than SWA and how long is the run? Experiencing any voltage drop with only 2.5mm2?

    Got a few lengths for free with joiners many moons ago. Had a roll of 2.5sq at the time. So zero cost. SWA would have been doable but the conduit offers ample protection. Better I dare say than SWA braiding. In terms of loss, can’t say. Only ever used power for charging batteries and lighting. Going forward, 2 separate units as opposed to one shed but load increase will be negligible / led lighting/device charging/Panel heater (500watt) and a TV.

    Run length from kitchen spur to shed is 8mtrs approx.


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    #205
    dodzy
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    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    Maybe I missed it Dodzy, what are you thinking broadband wise?

    WiFi in garden is fine from house. If any issues arise, then I’ll get extenders. Shouldn’t be an issue. Speedtest at bottom of garden over WiFi is more than adequate for Netflix/tube/Spotify. Daughter will need nothing else. No PC required


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    #206
    GreeBo
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    dodzy wrote: »

    Run length from kitchen spur to shed is 8mtrs approx.

    Eek! A spur from a spur?
    That's worse than crossing the streams!


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    #207
    Class MayDresser
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    dodzy wrote: »
    WiFi in garden is fine from house. If any issues arise, then I’ll get extenders. Shouldn’t be an issue. Speedtest at bottom of garden over WiFi is more than adequate for Netflix/tube/Spotify. Daughter will need nothing else. No PC required

    The pics look more remote than 8metres, well adequate. My own shed back 20m from the router used drop out on the WiFi, lucky I had 2 spare cores in an SWA to use homeplugs. ;-)


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    #208
    dodzy
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    I am about to start putting this up - the lad selling it is dead on and you can deal with him a bit



    I'll be posting photos tomorrow coz I have 2 hrs free in the morning and I might get cracking on it

    Great option. Let me know how you get on. I’ll give him a bell tomorrow to ask a few questions. At his price, it’s almost 1/2 the price of treated shiplap! :eek:


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    #209
    RobAMerc
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    dodzy wrote: »
    Great option. Let me know how you get on. I’ll give him a bell tomorrow to ask a few questions. At his price, it’s almost 1/2 the price of treated shiplap! :eek:

    he is a dead nice chap - gave me a discount for no real reason, thew a few bits in for nothing and delivered for 20 quid ( provided I accepted when it suited him )


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    #210
    Darando
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    dodzy wrote: »
    Hard to say Rob. This is unfortunately where the material costs increase. I’m €1300 in to this point (this cost includes the 50mm PIR sheets for all the walls and the OSB for the front of the build (currently under a tarp in the front garden).

    Treated 144mm shiplap as a finishing timber will probably cost me circa €600. I don’t mind cheaping out on the sides and back as it won’t be seen as long as it’s durable. Was looking at zero maintenance cladding/fascia earlier on line form an Irish company- nice site....but at over €40 per mtr, that won’t be happening. Happy for suggestions from anyone following your thread!

    You considered corrugated or box metal profile? Looking into it myself but haven’t got the costs yet!


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    #211
    dodzy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,927 ✭✭✭dodzy


    Darando wrote: »
    You considered corrugated or box metal profile? Looking into it myself but haven’t got the costs yet!
    not really, but for the sides and back, once weather proof integrity & longevity is solid, price will be the key! Lowest wins.


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