A/R TT....Round 2 - 1 mile TT, Saturday May 30th * please read post #1 *

TFBubendorfer · 07-05-2020 10:55am

Murph_D wrote: »

Good question as a few people had trouble last time. IMO best way to use the watch on a TT is to set up a workout on Garmin Connect (or watch itself, depending on model) for 1 mile run. No warmup or cooldown set. Do your warmup, take your position on start line, load the 1 mile workout, and go. The watch will pause when the mile elapses. You’ll hear the ‘beeps 5 or 10 secs before the end (don’t mistake these for the actual end) and a louder beep at the actual end. Watch will be paused, so just save the workout and set up another for cooldown.

That will give you 1.00 on the watch but that doesn't mean Strava will agree. In fact, I can almost guarantee that if it says 1.00 on my Suunto watch it will say 0.99 on Strava.

passinginterest · 07-05-2020 11:03am

I've only got access on the phone so I won't try update the table.

Excuses first; almost no running since January, hurt my knee trying to get back a few weeks ago, got fat, extremely lazy.

I've had two attempts at a mile, the Goal mile on the Tallaght track, Christmas day 2018 and 2019. Results of 7.00 and 6.41. Both largely time trials effectively. Definitely in better shape for both of them and not sure of route yet, so making a prediction is hard.

M37, prediction - injury, pain, hardship, regret and around 7.15.

Grateful if someone could add to the table. Thanks. Training starts today!

skyblue46 · 07-05-2020 11:04am

dna_leri wrote: »

Tell me again, how do we measure "net elevation loss" on Strava ?
I was getting confused so I checked Strava support page here:
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity
Now I'm more confused.

If I look at my 5K TT out-and-back route (where net elevation should be zero) the "elevation gain" (on mobile app) is 44m. On the Strava webpage this is just called "elevation".

For my mile TT, I'm planning a straight mile to avoid turn-around stop-start. Other than just "don't be a d1ck" how do we ensure "no net elevation loss" ?
I hear these TT organisers are very strict.

They are beyond strict!! The don't be a dick rule will be the main one. The elevation graph shows the route profile. Once the finishing point is at or near the same level as the start all is good

Murph_D · 07-05-2020 11:07am

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That will give you 1.00 on the watch but that doesn't mean Strava will agree. In fact, I can almost guarantee that if it says 1.00 on my Suunto watch it will say 0.99 on Strava.

True. What I have been doing is attaching a pic of the Garmin Connect summary to the strava activity. This shows the distance and time as measured by the watch. Assume this is acceptable, perhaps the organisers will clarify?

(Don't know about Suunto - assume there is some kind of Suunto app/website, or perhaps if not perhaps a a pic of your watch face - attached to strava activity - would suffice?)

It's certainly true that the Strava recalculation of Garmin activities looks unreliable. In the case of my 1-mile club TT last week, Strava didn't change the distance but added a second to the time!

skyblue46 · 07-05-2020 11:16am

Murph_D wrote: »

True. What I have been doing is attaching a pic of the Garmin Connect summary to the strava activity. This shows the distance and time as measured by the watch. Assume this is acceptable, perhaps the organisers will clarify?

(Don't know about Suunto - assume there is some kind of Suunto app/website, or perhaps if not perhaps a a pic of your watch face - attached to strava activity - would suffice?)

It's certainly true that the Strava recalculation of Garmin activities looks unreliable. In the case of my 1-mile club TT last week, Strava didn't change the distance but added a second to the time!

Yes a pic or screenshot attached to the Strava activity is grand

BeepBeep67 · 07-05-2020 11:23am

If I do this I have a wheeled 1500m, so will get down and wheel an additional 109

Dudda · 07-05-2020 11:52am

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

If I do this I have a wheeled 1500m, so will get down and wheel an additional 109

Don't forget the additional 34cm. These guys are very strict!

Laineyfrecks · 07-05-2020 12:15pm

Dudda wrote: »

Don't forget the additional 34cm. These guys are very strict!

Beyond strict apparently!

Strawberry Swan · 07-05-2020 1:37pm

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||

Hope I don't mess the table. Putting in my unfast time. No idea really as many months since my last race or TT and no speed work either. Better get cracking.

simonw · 07-05-2020 4:03pm

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||

Ferris B · 07-05-2020 5:14pm

I heard about the fun going on here so reckoned I'd join the fun.

Be grateful if someone could update the table: M52 & 5:43

Thanks

OOnegative · 07-05-2020 5:20pm

Ferris B wrote: »

I heard about the fun going on here so reckoned I'd join the fun.

Be grateful if someone could update the table: M52 & 5:43

Thanks

Jaysis there coming out of the woodwork now!!!

Ferris B · 07-05-2020 5:22pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Jaysis there coming out of the woodwork now!!!

In celebration of TbL's recent annual post:D

Murph_D · 07-05-2020 5:27pm

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||
Ferris B|M52|5:43||||

Good man, C.

Huzzah! · 07-05-2020 5:45pm

passinginterest wrote: »

I've only got access on the phone so I won't try update the table.

Excuses first; almost no running since January, hurt my knee trying to get back a few weeks ago, got fat, extremely lazy.

I've had two attempts at a mile, the Goal mile on the Tallaght track, Christmas day 2018 and 2019. Results of 7.00 and 6.41. Both largely time trials effectively. Definitely in better shape for both of them and not sure of route yet, so making a prediction is hard.

M37, prediction - injury, pain, hardship, regret and around 7.15.

Grateful if someone could add to the table. Thanks. Training starts today!

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||
Ferris B|M52|5:43||||
passinginterest|M37|7:15||||

jamule · 07-05-2020 5:53pm

can someone update me to m45

Murph_D · 07-05-2020 6:04pm

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M45|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||
Ferris B|M52|5:43||||
passinginterest|M37|7:15||||

snailsong · 07-05-2020 8:24pm

Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:55||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:40||||
Skyblue46|M52|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M45|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:10||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5.50||||
Lazare|M44|5:58||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||
Ferris B|M52|5:43||||
passinginterest|M37|7:15||||
snsilsong|M50|5:45|||||

50/50 whether I so this. Crocked with injuries but cant resist.

Swashbuckler · 07-05-2020 8:31pm

Great to see so much interest folks and even better to see some of the old crew reappearing.

Skyblue answered D already but Strava can be an a**hole for sure so just attach a pic of your garmin to the Strava.

The elevation thing, the main thing is don't take the piss. We'll forgive a metre here or there (I think?). I'll mostly dig into anomalous results that look too good based on the prediction.

Last thing, can you make sure you post in the strava group as to what your Boards username is so we can match up Strava times with names in the table here?
I see a lot more in the Strava group than in the table here. If you're not in the table here, your time doesn't matter or exist to me!

OOnegative · 07-05-2020 8:43pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Great to see so much interest folks and even better to see some of the old crew reappearing.

Skyblue answered D already but Strava can be an a**hole for sure so just attach a pic of your garmin to the Strava.

The elevation thing, the main thing is don't take the piss. We'll forgive a metre here or there (I think?). I'll mostly dig into anomalous results that look too good based on the prediction.

Last thing, can you make sure you post in the strava group as to what your Boards username is so we can match up Strava times with names in the table here?
I see a lot more in the Strava group than in the table here. If you're not in the table here, your time doesn't matter or exist to me!

Did himself just tex you that then you posted it????

Swashbuckler · 07-05-2020 8:52pm

OOnegative wrote:

Did himself just tex you that then you posted it????

I'm just a puppet on a string here B. I don't even agree with these stupid rules!

Laineyfrecks · 07-05-2020 8:58pm

Define an anomalous result...

Asking for a friend

skyblue46 · 07-05-2020 9:01pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Did himself just tex you that then you posted it????

He didn't even do me the courtesy :mad:

A metre here and there :eek:

Swashbuckler · 07-05-2020 9:02pm

Laineyfrecks wrote:

Define an anomalous result...

A prediction of, i dunno, say....
. 6.10 and a result of 5.30 will be thoroughly analysed. Haha

Laineyfrecks · 07-05-2020 9:03pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

A prediction of, i dunno, say....
. 6.10 and a result of 5.30 will be thoroughly analysed. Haha

Luckily my friend put down a very realistic target so

Lambay island · 07-05-2020 9:06pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

A prediction of, i dunno, say....
. 6.10 and a result of 5.30 will be thoroughly analysed. Haha

I was thinking 6.10 was a bit sandbaggy

skyblue46 · 07-05-2020 9:07pm

Lambay island wrote: »

I was thinking 6.10 was a bit sandbaggy

So was I :pac::pac:

Laineyfrecks · 07-05-2020 9:13pm

Lambay island wrote: »

I was thinking 6.10 was a bit sandbaggy

Based on what evidence exactly???

Laineyfrecks · 07-05-2020 9:13pm

skyblue46 wrote: »

So was I :pac::pac:

Eh please see question above!!!

Lambay island · 07-05-2020 9:18pm

Laineyfrecks wrote: »

Based on what evidence exactly???

I hear tinman's a good judge

A/R TT....Round 2 - 1 mile TT, Saturday May 30th *** please read post #1 ***

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A/R TT....Round 2 - 1 mile TT, Saturday May 30th * please read post #1 *