Relaxation of restrictions

Spencer Brown

easypazz wrote: »

Shopping has become a frustrating experience, I go as little as possible.

I meet 2 checkpoints in my way and tell the truth to the police.

I go for my 2kM walk.

That is it, other than that wait around the house all day.

I don't see I am not in a lockdown.

Had to move house this weekend, 10 mins drive between the houses. I made 4 return trips and had to go through 5 checkpoints. Anyone who says this lockdown isn't being enforced is clearly not leaving their home.

Xertz

The one thing I’m wondering about is how the HSE will look when all those currently holding off on various electives and others who may just not be presenting at all with potentially serious illnesses all suddenly re-emerge.

I know there’s a % of unnecessary visits to A&E and the lack of the traditional Friday and Saturday mayhem has helped reduce load a lot, but the country didn’t just become massively healthier over the last few weeks. There must be a lot of people putting up with a lot of issues.

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

You are going to be very disappointed I'm afraid.

Numbers still very high.

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Not enough to be honest

39 people did not die today, and 445 people did not test positive today.

A lot of the deaths are from previous days, only reported today and same with the number of positive tests.

Pretty soon the information will be almost instantaneous so the number of deaths will suddenly hit the teens and the number of cases hit the low numbers.

They are working through nursing homes and places of high probability of positive results.

drunkmonkey

BanditLuke wrote: »

You are going to be very disappointed I'm afraid.

Numbers still very high.

Confirmed cases are way down and nearly 100% of today's deaths are in the East. It's becoming blaringinly obvious little justification for treating the rest of the country like the east.

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

39 people did not die today, and 445 people did not test positive today.

A lot of the deaths are from previous days, only reported today and same with the number of positive tests.

Pretty soon the information will be almost instantaneous so the number of deaths will suddenly hit the teens and the number of cases hit the low numbers.

They are working through nursing homes and places of high probability of positive results.

Where did I say today. Read and respond.

road_high

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Confirmed cases are way down and nearly 100% of today's deaths are in the East. It's becoming blaringinly obvious little justification for treating the rest of the country like the east.

I’d say it would be difficult to maintain it just to Dublin?
I live in the outer Leinster area and everything sort of revolves around Dublin to some extent be it deliveries, couriers, travel, health services, education. But if that’s a workable option then great

drunkmonkey

road_high wrote: »

I’d say it would be difficult to maintain it just to Dublin?
I live in the outer Leinster area and everything sort of revolves around Dublin to some extent be it deliveries, couriers, travel, health services, education. But if that’s a workable option then great

You block the roads out of it. Keep it closed. Cork got it bad at the start but seems to be under control. It's going to have to be done on a regional basis, we can't all wait on Dublin.

Cyrus

BanditLuke wrote: »

Where did I say today. Read and respond.

What numbers are still very high then ?

Gael23

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

They'll ease restrictions forthnightly while keeping an eye on numebrs. Spikes in cases will depend on size and HSE capacity. The 2km ban will probably be one of the next things to go and larger shops opening.

This is and always was going to be just a case of buying time to build up resources and increase resiliance.

Next things after what?

alwald

The "anti restrictions brigade" will be very disappointed in 2 weeks time. The government is basing their decisions on medical advice from the very beginning and will continue to do so.
They will have to test the waters for at least 4 weeks to see if lifting some restrictions won't have a negative effect on the progress made so far.
The 2 km will most likely remain and schools will be closed as the priority is to allow some sectors/industries to open up first like construction for instance.

JTMan

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The suggestion at the moment seems to be that those who can work from home would continue to do so.

Exactly, there are certain restrictions, such as work from home where possible, that make no sense to relax until after the majority of the population have received a vaccine.

Logically this restriction should stay in place. Why would a company put their staff at risk if it is not needed because staff have already proven that they can work from home.

It is plausible that, work from home where possible, will remain in place for 12-18 months or how ever long a vaccine takes.

No wonder home office construction from garden sheds is becoming popular!!

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

Where did I say today. Read and respond.

I'm good thanks. Roll on May 5th.

road_high

alwald wrote: »

The "anti restrictions brigade" will be very disappointed in 2 weeks time. The government is basing their decisions on medical advice from the very beginning and will continue to do so.
They will have to test the waters for at least 4 weeks to see if lifting some restrictions won't have a negative effect on the progress made so far.
The 2 km will most likely remain and schools will be closed as the priority is to allow some sectors/industries to open up first like construction for instance.

Hardly. Any glimmer of improvement is a massive step forward from where we are now. Bizzare how some people so doggedly hold onto these draconian measures as if they are some kind of holy grail that should be far more severe than as is clinically necessary

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

I'm good thanks. Roll on May 5th.

Indeed.

So I didn't say today. Maybe stop imaging things that aren't there.

road_high

Spencer Brown wrote: »

Had to move house this weekend, 10 mins drive between the houses. I made 4 return trips and had to go through 5 checkpoints. Anyone who says this lockdown isn't being enforced is clearly not leaving their home.

It’s being enforced rigidly especially on national routes

BanditLuke

alwald wrote: »

The "anti restrictions brigade" will be very disappointed in 2 weeks time. The government is basing their decisions on medical advice from the very beginning and will continue to do so.
They will have to test the waters for at least 4 weeks to see if lifting some restrictions won't have a negative effect on the progress made so far.
The 2 km will most likely remain and schools will be closed as the priority is to allow some sectors/industries to open up first like construction for instance.

I actually fear for the mental health of a couple of the posters here if things don't go their way on the 5th. Some need to take a few days out and relax.

Cork Boy 53

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Confirmed cases are way down and nearly 100% of today's deaths are in the East. It's becoming blaringinly obvious little justification for treating the rest of the country like the east.

So what do you suggest should be done? Keep the restrictions in place in the East while lifting them in the rest of the country? Good luck if you are expecting that to happen.

road_high

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So what do you suggest should be done? Keep the restrictions in place in the East while lifting them in the rest of the country? Good luck if you are expecting that to happen.

If it’s possible to do it should be done. I assume as a cork man/boy Dublin isn’t the centre of the universe to you?

alwald

road_high wrote: »

Hardly. Any glimmer of improvement is a massive step forward from where we are now. Bizzare how some people so doggedly hold onto these draconian measures as if they are some kind of holy grail that should be far more severe than as is clinically necessary

It is bizarre how some people get offended and engage in attacks when a poster is in favor of keeping some restrictions. I will also add that it's farcical that some people think that making steps forward means we are finished with this virus :pac:.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You block the roads out of it. Keep it closed. Cork got it bad at the start but seems to be under control. It's going to have to be done on a regional basis, we can't all wait on Dublin.

More people in Dublin so there's more cases..... I imagine it's not a huge outlier per capita TBH.

I've no skin in the game.... Am working as normal.

road_high

BanditLuke wrote: »

I actually fear for the mental health of a couple of the posters here if things don't go their way on the 5th. Some need to take a few days out and relax.

I fear for the mental health of the whole country- it’s a real issue for many, not one I would think needed to be scoffed at or dismissed. We will face a mental health crisis coupled with an economic one

Speakerboxx

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Its not going to just die off. Thats not the point of a lock down. The point is to slow the spread to a level where it doesn't overwhelm the hospital system. If you want to wait and stay inside until it has completely passed you'll be waiting a long time.

We all be waiting long time the way its looking.

road_high

Augeo wrote: »

More people in Dublin so there's more cases..... I imagine it's not a huge outlier per capita TBH.

I've no skin in the game.... Am working as normal.

Think on a per capita basis Dublin is still much higher. Co Westmeath, Wicklow and cavan also well up there I think also

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

Indeed.

So I didn't say today. Maybe stop imaging things that aren't there.

You said numbers still very high.

Now you accept they are old numbers, so you don't have actual numbers for today, to claim they are still very high.

road_high

road_high wrote: »

Think on a per capita basis Dublin is still much higher. Co Westmeath, Wicklow and cavan also well you there I think also

Apologies if so.
There was an analysis on boards that suggested otherwise....ill try & find it.

road_high

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies if so.
There was an analysis on boards that suggested otherwise....ill try & find it.

I saw a table on social media that have a breakdown on a per capita county population figure. It’s more relevant I think than totals

I believe the topic starter is a mathematician....
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058068467

bettyoleary

easypazz wrote: »

I'm good thanks. Roll on May 5th.

Yeah where will you go first with your first weeks wages Covid Arms or the Bat and Pangolin??:rolleyes:

Cork Boy 53

road_high wrote: »

If it’s possible to do it should be done. I assume as a cork man/boy Dublin isn’t the centre of the universe to you?

Far from it, but exactly how do you think would that be possible to implement?

easypazz

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So what do you suggest should be done? Keep the restrictions in place in the East while lifting them in the rest of the country? Good luck if you are expecting that to happen.

There was a plan to segment the country if necessary AFAIK.

In a way they kind of did it with the lockdown, nobody from Dublin travelling to the coast and spreading it etc.