Running, Corona Virus and Social Distancing

crisco10

sideswipe wrote: »

I wouldn't go near a park to run at the moment. Leave them to families and people out for a walk it's easier not to have to weave through people by trying to find somewhere not frequented by walkers and families- I know it's not always possible and depends on location, it just makes sense to try. I've seen people on my strava feed doing multiple laps of places you know are going to be very busy, one lad yesterday in the lovely weather decided it would be a good idea to do a session of 400's at 11am on a very busy seaside section of footpath doing out and backs, that's just not using common decency, and is against the spirt of 'being in this together'.

That makes no sense and is just lazy route selection on his part, i suppose never underestimate how people are creatures of habit.

Strangely I find estate roads to be quiet enough, and with the added benefit of the roads are dead so you can just run out on them if there are people on the footpath.

I've also noticed a few people on Strava doing car park tours. i.e. running between currently empty car parks and doing laps of them. not a bad idea.

adrian522

sideswipe wrote: »

I wouldn't go near a park to run at the moment. Leave them to families and people out for a walk it's easier not to have to weave through people by trying to find somewhere not frequented by walkers and families- I know it's not always possible and depends on location, it just makes sense to try. I've seen people on my strava feed doing multiple laps of places you know are going to be very busy, one lad yesterday in the lovely weather decided it would be a good idea to do a session of 400's at 11am on a very busy seaside section of footpath doing out and backs, that's just not using common decency, and is against the spirt of 'being in this together'.

Unfortunately unless you are running early or late there aren't going to be any areas not frequented by walkers and families.

I find Bushy Park not the worst option, there's frequently Gardai up there enforcing the rules and you can run on the grass part inside the path. There's a 2km loop you can do without going onto the path at all.

OutTheGap

sideswipe wrote: »

I've seen people on my strava feed doing multiple laps of places you know are going to be very busy, one lad yesterday in the lovely weather decided it would be a good idea to do a session of 400's at 11am on a very busy seaside section of footpath doing out and backs, that's just not using common decency, and is against the spirt of 'being in this together'.

That's just so inconsiderate and gives runners a bad name.

If you are going to do a session or a tempo run, you should get up early and do it when it's quiet.

If you're going to a park/busy place at 11am, you should be going easy and staying on the grass or out of the way of families etc as much as possible.

IMHO of course.

The Davestator

This morning, Newstalk asked Simon Harris about whether he had any plans to follow french banning of Jogging and he said no, exercise was important and once the 2m distance was maintained, that was ok.
The fact the question was asked is worrying but at least he was clear with his answer.

BeepBeep67

Since the 2k ruling I've done about 80% of my running on the treadmill.
However on my runs outdoors everyone has been very pleasant and accomodating, keep your head up, make your intention (which side are you moving toward) known early and try to make eye contact. Only one issue where a guy let his kids out of the back of the car and they scattered like cats, I had to stop until he rounded a few of them up.

robinph

The knowledge to avoid parks and find quieter areas, knowing where those quieter areas would be, being used to spotting the movements of the 50 walkers/ dogs/ cyclists/ runners infront of you and anticipate where they are likely to veer off too next and find the gap through the middle and other such things are skills that we have as experienced runners.

There is a vast number of people out running these days who've not run for anything other than a bus since leaving school and they don't know those skills. Unfortunately it is them who will suffer most from the new daytime restrictions in France as they will not consider going out running at other times of the day, or running around back streets. All they have seen on the covers of Runners Monde in the newsagents over the years will be photos of pretty looking people running around pretty tree lined parks and open spaces, so that is where they go running.

We are addicted so are happy to make do and go and run laps of the local industrial estate at 2am if that is the only way that we can get our run in.

backofthepack

I tried the park during the week for the first time since all this has started and I'm lucky in that Tymon park in Tallaght is within my 2km.
There were plenty of people with kids about, dog walkers etc but there are huge fields where it's easy to stay away from people and get the miles in.
We would have done lots of long runs in the fields, great conditioning and strength building running on grass and an easy way to avoid people out with young kids.
To be fair my heart is in my mouth travelling along a roadside with my own young kids, the parks are safer.

Ted_YNWA

robinph wrote: »

The knowledge to avoid parks and find quieter areas, knowing where those quieter areas would be, being used to spotting the movements of the 50 walkers/ dogs/ cyclists/ runners infront of you and anticipate where they are likely to veer off too next and find the gap through the middle and other such things are skills that we have as experienced runners.

Every time I go out for a run, I gave up on having a defined route planned. It is being decided and changed every 100 yards. Zigzagging around streets, estates depending on how many are about. I havent done the exact same route twice in three weeks.

IvoryTower

Butterbeans

crisco10 wrote: »

That makes no sense and is just lazy route selection on his part, i suppose never underestimate how people are creatures of habit.

Strangely I find estate roads to be quiet enough, and with the added benefit of the roads are dead so you can just run out on them if there are people on the footpath.

I've also noticed a few people on Strava doing car park tours. i.e. running between currently empty car parks and doing laps of them. not a bad idea.

Empty train station car park a mile from me, have used it for my last 3 speed sessions, not a sinner in the place and 300m loop to boot. It ain't pretty but its ideal for now.

stockshares

The regulars will love this. Amanda Brunker was on Mary Wilsons Rte Drivetime show giving out about Runners.

Catch it on Rte player if you missed it.

MonkstownHoop

stockshares wrote: »

The regulars will love this. Amanda Brunner was on Mary Wilsons Rte Drivetime show giving out about Runners.

Catch it on Rte player if you missed it.

She's on twitter, a backlash is needed.

Swiper the fox

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

She's on twitter, a backlash is needed.

Conor Pope was raging with her,

Stark

Is it on the player? couldn't find it.

The Davestator

Its not a mystery as to where all these new runners are coming from. There are over 500,000 gym members in Ireland.
People who want to keep healthy and exercise.
All gyms are closed, cycling is pointless due to restrictions and it is very difficult to get home gym equipment as everyone is looking for it! Running appears to be the answer for lots of them.

stockshares

Stark wrote: »

Is it on the player? couldn't find it.

It might not be up yet. You might have to wait till tomorrow and then go google Rte Radio drivetime and click on the Podcasts link under the main link.

nyarlothothep

I did a few timing experiments with park runs. The nearest place within the 2km limit is a park so that's what I'm limited to, that and the footpaths are pointless as they're not wide enough to accommodate the 2 metre social distancing principle (and families/walkers seldom observe it at all anyway, meaning I have to go out on the road, looking behind me while dumbo 1 or dumbo 2 stare at me like I'm an alien, even though they're taking up the entire footpath!).

In any case it can be fairly busy. The best advice I can give is to look far, far ahead, I run on the open fields, so I can get a good view. If I see dogs anywhere I change route. My main fear is dogs, I hate dogs not on leads or more accurately I utterly hate the owners when their dogs run up to me. Since dogs may be carriers this is even more egregious. Happy families clearly are major problem, they spread out and take up entire paths, it's bizarre to see. Cyclists are equally bad and seem to be like iron filings to magnets, they just have to cycle up on top of you. I run in perpendicular directions to rapidly increase distance between me and the offending agent.

There is a lot of stop/starting, particularly around choke points where you're forced to use the path. Again, I find if the great unwashed actually used their fcking brains for once, everyone could enjoy the park. Example: I am rigorously practicing social distancing out of self preservation and civic responsibility. Therefore I benefit other people as they would me if they would practice it themselves but the majority don't! When I do see people observing it, I give a small nod of acknowledgement and appreciation and it's good to see people moving aside for others (when it sometimes happens). This is what we should be doing. However, there are so many ****ing jackasses that don't, talking in groups, refusing to give space and generally wandering around in their own little worlds and therein lies the rub.

Murph_D

stockshares wrote: »

It might not be up yet. You might have to wait till tomorrow and then go google Rte Radio drivetime and click on the Podcasts link under the main link.

No thanks.

skyblue46

stockshares wrote: »

It might not be up yet. You might have to wait till tomorrow and then go google Rte Radio drivetime and click on the Podcasts link under the main link.

Do you really think that anybody cares what Amanda Brunker thinks?

Burkie1203

skyblue46 wrote: »

Do you really think that anybody cares what Amanda Brunker thinks?

Her liposuction must have sucked her brain out and was replaced with botox

Burkie1203

nyarlothothep wrote: »

I did a few timing experiments with park runs. The nearest place within the 2km limit is a park so that's what I'm limited to, that and the footpaths are pointless as they're not wide enough to accommodate the 2 metre social distancing principle (and families/walkers seldom observe it at all anyway, meaning I have to go out on the road, looking behind me while dumbo 1 or dumbo 2 stare at me like I'm an alien, even though they're taking up the entire footpath!).

In any case it can be fairly busy. The best advice I can give is to look far, far ahead, I run on the open fields, so I can get a good view. If I see dogs anywhere I change route. My main fear is dogs, I hate dogs not on leads or more accurately I utterly hate the owners when their dogs run up to me. Since dogs may be carriers this is even more egregious. Happy families clearly are major problem, they spread out and take up entire paths, it's bizarre to see. Cyclists are equally bad and seem to be like iron filings to magnets, they just have to cycle up on top of you. I run in perpendicular directions to rapidly increase distance between me and the offending agent.

There is a lot of stop/starting, particularly around choke points where you're forced to use the path. Again, I find if the great unwashed actually used their fcking brains for once, everyone could enjoy the park. Example: I am rigorously practicing social distancing out of self preservation and civic responsibility. Therefore I benefit other people as they would me if they would practice it themselves but the majority don't! When I do see people observing it, I give a small nod of acknowledgement and appreciation and it's good to see people moving aside for others (when it sometimes happens). This is what we should be doing. However, there are so many ****ing jackasses that don't, talking in groups, refusing to give space and generally wandering around in their own little worlds and therein lies the rub.

I live right between two decent sized parks. Also a fairly quiet large residential area so I can run on roads mostly. ..I ducked into both parks today. One was busy so I left after one lap and went to the other. Was maybe 20 ppl there. Two lads doing sprints up and down a pitch, they were either side of a set of goalposts, nobody else near them. Only 16 or 17 but they looked like brothers.

Others on the paths were great. Dogs on long leads were reeled in etc.

stockshares

skyblue46 wrote: »

Do you really think that anybody cares what Amanda Brunker thinks?

No, I thought some would be amused.She said she had two lovely Whippets

nyarlothothep

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I live right between two decent sized parks. Also a fairly quiet large residential area so I can run on roads mostly. ..I ducked into both parks today. One was busy so I left after one lap and went to the other. Was maybe 20 ppl there. Two lads doing sprints up and down a pitch, they were either side of a set of goalposts, nobody else near them. Only 16 or 17 but they looked like brothers.

Others on the paths were great. Dogs on long leads were reeled in etc.

This is what it should be like, empty-ish and dogs on leads, I never see this, might make a complaint about it. And dog owners are so willfully thick, they just stare at you mutely when you tell them several times to call their dogs back.

Casey78

stockshares wrote: »

No, I thought some would be amused.She said she had two lovely Whippets

And pretty big ones at that......;)

rovers_runner

Smashing evening for a run, like the end of summer.
A lovely hilly 10k in the woods, met tons of people of all ages in great spirits.

F*ck you Drew Harris, f*ck you Amanda Brunker you'll never take our roads and trails from us!

Burkie1203

nyarlothothep wrote: »

This is what it should be like, empty-ish and dogs on leads, I never see this, might make a complaint about it. And dog owners are so willfully thick, they just stare at you mutely when you tell them several times to call their dogs back.

I had that issue last week. Just because the lead is 10metres long doesn't mean your dog should be 10 metres from you. Asked him to respect other users.

As i left I spotted a garda car. They went in to have a chat. That lad hasn't been seen since by me anyway

Glencarraig

nyarlothothep wrote: »

This is what it should be like, empty-ish and dogs on leads, I never see this, might make a complaint about it. And dog owners are so willfully thick, they just stare at you mutely when you tell them several times to call their dogs back.

Dont forget the kamikaze kids on scooters/small bikes who look anywhere except where they are supposed to be going. Parents are oblivious.

Swiper the fox

I was really cross with Brunker listening to that earlier, Mary Wilson seemed to give her a lot of rope as well and at one stage seemed to suggest that Conor Pope was getting a bit emotional in a patronising way,
Suggesting that runners had spat in the direction of her feet, Jesus Christ, I’ve never seen that as long as I’ve been running, pitting people agss as inst runners now is a ****ty thing to do,

average_runner

Glencarraig wrote: »

Dont forget the kamikaze kids on scooters/small bikes who look anywhere except where they are supposed to be going. Parents are oblivious.

Eh that is what kids do. They get distracted easily, the same way you did when a kid.


Most parents will remind their kids, but they are just kids. Current times are very tough on them also, cant see their friends, too young to understand and get very upset every so often about it all.

Hannibal_Smith

Ah lads, kids on bikes and scooters can't be expected to have road/path sense. We have ours trained for years about walking single file or stopping on the bike if someone is coming the other way. But that took years to fine tune and even at that they need a few reminders these days.

I'd say I look like someone who's only out because of the lockdown. It's bad enough thinking people are frowning because you're moving (slightly) faster than a walk. But to be thinking runners too are questioning you being on the road is pretty unmotivating. Ever since I was sick trying to get back has me huffing and puffing along. I'm so paranoid about it I stopped wearing earphones so I could try quieten the train

This is what we've become. If everyone could keep their eyes on their own work and trust other people are working within the rules, we'd all keep a lot more sane.