The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

A Dub in Glasgo

meeeeh wrote: »

That's not gutter style media. They are pleading with people to stay at home and only go out for short exercise. People are not allowed to travel or stay out in parks, including people living in flats with no gardens or balconies. How can you expect the plebs to obey the rules if those in charge don't?

She discredited government policy and made it harder to implement any other necessary measures. She should be gone and she is rightly the story of the day.

She should be gone but the hand wringing from the media is unreal. You had ITV News reporter Peter Smith on the news earlier saying people have had to really curb their lives yet he is swanning about Scotland reporting from locations that he does not need to be actually there. Earlier in the week he was at a ferry terminal looking over to one of the Scottish islands and reporting over there they had their first case. Was it essential that he was free to travel to do this?

meeeeh

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

She should be gone but the hand wringing from the media is unreal. You had ITV News reporter Peter Smith on the news earlier saying people have had to really curb their lives yet he is swanning about Scotland reporting from locations that he does not need to be actually there. Earlier in the week he was at a ferry terminal looking over to one of the Scottish islands and reporting over there they had their first case. Was it essential that he was free to travel to do this?

Probably not but he is not the person advising on the rules and she is. To use Irish comparison it's like Haughey telling people to tighten their belts.

threeball

I have a friend who travelled back from the UK. Isolated here for 14 days then returned home. He said the difference between London and Ireland is night and day. No one really taking it seriously, all a bit of a joke. Knew he had to get out when he saw the reaction it was getting. They might have tightened up in the last week but he said he'd be surprised such was the apathy that he saw.

MadYaker

If any of you follow Dr John Campbell on YouTube he claimed today that in the area he lives in northern England deaths for March this year were 30% higher than last year. Also said they are only recording deaths in hospitals as being due to Covid 19 there are many more people dying in care homes or their own homes that aren’t added to the tally because they were never tested.

bilston

Darc19 wrote: »

Covid-19,

What's that? - yesterday's news.

Good old brits attack Scottish medical chief because she decided to spend a couple of days in her second home less than an hour away.

OK, she shouldn't have done it, but to effectively be the only story on the news shows the gutter style of the UK's media

She absolutely deserves criticism, luckily for her it isn't the time nor place for Scotland to be changing their chief medical officer.

theological

threeball wrote: »

I have a friend who travelled back from the UK. Isolated here for 14 days then returned home. He said the difference between London and Ireland is night and day. No one really taking it seriously, all a bit of a joke. Knew he had to get out when he saw the reaction it was getting. They might have tightened up in the last week but he said he'd be surprised such was the apathy that he saw.

Extrapolating that people don't take it seriously in a city of 8 million people based on one person's comment is taking liberties.

punisher5112

MadYaker wrote: »

If any of you follow Dr John Campbell on YouTube he claimed today that in the area he lives in northern England deaths for March this year were 30% higher than last year. Also said they are only recording deaths in hospitals as being due to Covid 19 there are many more people dying in care homes or their own homes that aren’t added to the tally because they were never tested.

But this is how they are all counting deaths.....

Hospital deaths are the only ones we are shown, those at home, in care homes etc aren't....

I don't trust or believe China either and their figures are definitely messed with.

CrabRevolution

Joe_ Public wrote: »

At first glance i thought this was just some stupid flier from some idle journalists, but it turns out to be a demand of 15 idle tory mps of their pm. I dont know all 15, but among them are David Davis, Ian Duncan Smith and Owen Paterson. These lads never take a day off.

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1246750522511699970?s=20

Given they are all ardent brexiters, how does "China owes us money under international law" fit with their insistence that agreed international treaties can be ignored if they are deemed inconvenient to a country?

dogbert27

Breaking news saying Boris has been taken in to hospital as a precautionary measure

Beechwoodspark

Having lived in England there are 3 attitudes there that won’t help in this situation.

1 - “nobody tells a free Englishman what to do”

2 - “nothing to get too excited about” dismissiveness

3-“British exceptionalism”. They see themselves as superior to Johnny Foreigner

devnull

dogbert27 wrote: »

Breaking news saying Boris has been taken in to hospital as a precautionary measure

I wouldn't wish to see anyone be ill in hospital and to be suffering. I hope he feels better as soon as possible and that this is just routine and he is discharged shortly.

However it's clear that Johnson hasn't been practicing what he has been preaching. If you look back to footage of PMQs on 25th March and other meetings he's taken part in that week, he was sitting right next to people such as Hancock on the Government benches and afterwards there were mass crowds of people gathering together and talking like a regular day.

It's impossible to say if that was how he was infected, but this shows the importance of everyone following the guidelines and not feeling that they are untouchable or that it will not happen to them.

AllForIt

dogbert27 wrote: »

Breaking news saying Boris has been taken in to hospital as a precautionary measure

Yes just seeing that. Must be serious enough to be taken to hospital.

No doubt the socialist's in time will be asking if he's been given preferential treatment.

threeball

theological wrote: »

Extrapolating that people don't take it seriously in a city of 8 million people based on one person's comment is taking liberties.

Its called observation. You can tell a lot from what you see going on around you.

threeball

theological wrote: »

Extrapolating that people don't take it seriously in a city of 8 million people based on one person's comment is taking liberties.

Its called observation. You can tell a lot from what you see going on around you.

AllForIt

devnull wrote: »

I wouldn't wish to see anyone be ill in hospital and to be suffering. I hope he feels better as soon as possible and that this is just routine and he is discharged shortly.

However it's clear that Johnson hasn't been practicing what he has been preaching. If you look back to footage of PMQs on 25th March and other meetings he's taken part in that week, he was sitting right next to people such as Hancock on the Government benches and afterwards there were mass crowds of people gathering together and talking like a regular day.

It's impossible to say if that was how he was infected, but this shows the importance of everyone following the guidelines and not feeling that they are untouchable or that it will not happen to them.

Virtue signal and then stick the boot in.

dogbert27

AllForIt wrote: »

Yes just seeing that. Must be serious enough to be taken to hospital.

No doubt the socialist's in time will be asking if he's been given preferential treatment.

His temperature remains high after 10 days so taken in as a precautionary apparently

devnull

AllForIt wrote: »

Virtue signal and then stick the boot in.

Not really sticking the boot in at all. Regardless of my political views, I don't want to see anybody ill and he has my best wishes. Whether you believe me or not is your choice but they are very much genuine. He has a family just like anyone else, he's a father, has a wife to be and soon to have another child. He might be a PM but he's also a person first and foremost.

The UK has seen Hancock who has only observed 6 days of an isolation period rather than what he really should observe, a Scottish Chief Medical Officer who felt the rules did not apply to her and a House of Commons where a number of MPs have seen social distancing as being something that doesn't apply to them.

If the Lockdown in the UK is going to succeed and last and by all accounts it will need to last for many weeks yet, those at the top need to be setting an example that the rest of the population should follow. Even at the recent Nightingale hospital launch there were plenty in the background not observing social distancing.

zell12

8:00pm Queen broadcasts speech on virus
9:15pm PM Johnson hospitalised due to virus

:eek:

S.M.B.

The UK has made a balls of the situation to begin with but it's absolute nonsense to say "nobody is taking this seriously" in London.

There has been a big shift in the past 10 days matching the guidelines set out by the government.

I'd been applying social distancing measures well before it was suggested both here and in Ireland but things have improved. There were days a few weeks ago where I'd hear an ambulance siren every 20 minutes and I really struggled to sleep with the sound ringing in the background at a time when everyone was going about their daily life. There has been a significant change the last week and I now hear sirens a handful of times through out the day.

Professor Moriarty

S.M.B. wrote: »

The UK has made a balls of the situation to begin with but it's absolute nonsense to say "nobody is taking this seriously" in London.

There has been a big shift in the past 10 days matching the guidelines set out by the government.

I'd been applying social distancing measures well before it was suggested both here and in Ireland but things have improved. There were days a few weeks ago where I'd hear an ambulance siren every 20 minutes and I really struggled to sleep with the sound ringing in the background at a time when everyone was going about their daily life. There has been a significant change the last week and I now hear sirens a handful of times through out the day.

The worst is yet to come, there and here.

A Dub in Glasgo

AllForIt wrote: »

Virtue signal and then stick the boot in.

The boot is deserved

S.M.B.

S.M.B. wrote: »

There has been a big shift in the past 10 days matching the guidelines set out by the government.

& that's the problem.
The British public believed what their government told them..... Everything was great, no problem at all, until there was.
The British public believed what they were told, even though every other country were putting things in place, they were doing nothing.
Telling their people everything was OK.
Well it wasn't, and it definitely is not now.

2pints

The response here has been pretty poor, we still have people driving to local "beauty" spots to go for a walk, and/or sit in the sun, parking on roads and areas you are not supposed to park ( as some car parks have been closed ) the police response is to have a few stern words with them ( as opposed to ticketing them for unlawful parking)

The warehouses for non essential items are still in fuill swing - and in those places social distancing is impossible:
Boobtubes, essential items??
.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/boohoo-warehouse-staff-work-fearing-17986018
.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/03/why-are-people-buying-boob-tubes-fashion-workers-anger-at-owners-and-consumers

Arts and crafts store closes shops but keeps its warehouse fully staffed:
.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/burton-factory-hits-back-criticism-3981413

And this form Clipper logisitics, at a site where they deal with retail goods such as clothing and returns
.northamptonchron.co.uk/health/coronavirus/national-logistics-company-tells-workers-it-will-not-shut-northampton-site-if-there-confirmed-case-covid-19-2520124
extract from linked article

Sent by management, the email goes on to suggest that coughing and sneezing is ‘likely to be hayfever’.

The document says: “If, in a rare instant, the site has a case of COVID19, the site will not close.

“Therefore, there is no point in telling people you have the virus when you do not. Anyone who behaves in this way will be investigated through the disciplinary process and please note this is a breach of H&S, and would be treated as gross misconduct.

“Anyone choosing to return before their isolation period has ended or attends work with the basic new symptoms will be dealt with in the appropriate way.

“Please note that we are entering the pollen season so anyone sneezing or coughing does not automatically have the virus, it’s likely to be hay fever.”

The first point of the email says the site is 'not part of the governments list of companies to close'.

links removed due to me being a new user, you need to add the http:// and www bits in front of the link

devnull

Scottish CMO Catherine Calderwood has resigned, appears to have been a case of jumping before she has pushed, since apparently it was following a discussion with Nicola Sturgeon about how the focus on her would take away from the message that needs to be re-enforced with the public.

Hardly a surprise really and the right decision, I have to say.

pablo128

My missus's cousin in the UK, a nurse, is now seriously ill with covid 19. Merseyside area. Not sure which hospital. In her 40s. Hopefully she pulls through.

meeeeh

I wonder if Raab will be able to hide excitement tomorrow...

NaiveMelodies

devnull wrote: »

Scottish CMO Catherine Calderwood has resigned, appears to have been a case of jumping before she has pushed, since apparently it was following a discussion with Nicola Sturgeon about how the focus on her would take away from the message that needs to be re-enforced with the public.

Hardly a surprise really and the right decision, I have to say.

A kunt

zell12

Anyone wanna attempt to write Monday's UK tabloid headlines?

Donald Trump

zell12 wrote: »

Anyone wanna attempt to write Monday's UK tabloid headlines?

"Anti-Democratic EU and China plot to infect Boris uncovered in investigation by 15 Tory MPs"

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^

shouldn't you be giving a press conference soon?