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Avoid non-essential travel !!!

  • 12-03-2020 11:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭


    The Dept of Foreign Affairs are advising against non essential travel to Spain, am I entitled to a full refund from Ryanair or best to go through the travel insurance?
    Flying to Lanzarote this weekend but due to medical (not Covid 19 related) I cannot travel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Wondering the same with Aer Lingus. Had already cancelled about 2 hours ago but wondering are options now full refund as they cancel, my travel insurance kicks in or just the small tax refund


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭macadam


    Small Tax refund €16 approx how do you even get it back??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    macadam wrote: »
    Small Tax refund €16 approx how do you even get it back??

    If you cancel it's automatically refunded. EI have form on their site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    macadam wrote: »
    The Dept of Foreign Affairs are advising against non essential travel to Spain, am I entitled to a full refund from Ryanair or best to go through the travel insurance?
    Flying to Lanzarote this weekend but due to medical (not Covid 19 related) I cannot travel.

    are they including the Canaries in that or is it just mainland Spain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭gipi


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    are they including the Canaries in that or is it just mainland Spain?

    RTE News suggests that Canaries and Balerics (sp) are included in the advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    macadam wrote: »
    The Dept of Foreign Affairs are advising against non essential travel to Spain, am I entitled to a full refund from Ryanair or best to go through the travel insurance?
    Flying to Lanzarote this weekend but due to medical (not Covid 19 related) I cannot travel.

    If you can get a letter from your GP to say that you are not fit to travel then it's business as usual and you claim the airfare back from your travel insurance.

    There are four scheduled flights to Lanzarote tomorrow from Dublin, all are status 'on schedule'.

    As the DFA has advised against all but essential travel to Spain, you may be able to claim from your insurance, you need to check the policy. My AIG policy would cover this situation .....

    if after the time the Insured Person books their trip, the Department of Foreign Affairs advises against all but essential travel to their intended destination.


    Here is an extract from the DFA travel advice page on Spain.....

    Latest travel alert

    Novel Coronavirus

    For the moment, we recommend against non-essential travel to Spain (including the Balearic and Canary Islands).


    https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/spain/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭dennyk


    Ryanair and Aer Lingus are now waiving change fees for flights booked before certain dates. If you wouldn't mind rescheduling your holiday, you could change your tickets to a date in the autumn or whatnot and only pay the fare difference (if any).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    UK may be included in U.S travel ban shortly.

    Ireland.. maybe, who knows!

    Trump may remove some low rate infection schengen countries from the ban list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Parents were due to fly to Alicante in the morning. Not officially cancelled by Ryanair yet but only can up to 4 hours. In 2 minds what to do - book random date in Sept or hope the flight gets cancelled by Ryanair in the mornin and get a refund through the travel agency. It's their policy that it needs to be officially cancelled before refund is issued.
    Any thoughts ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    GBX wrote: »
    Parents were due to fly to Alicante in the morning. Not officially cancelled by Ryanair yet but only can up to 4 hours. In 2 minds what to do - book random date in Sept or hope the flight gets cancelled by Ryanair in the mornin and get a refund through the travel agency. It's their policy that it needs to be officially cancelled before refund is issued.
    Any thoughts ?

    Log onto Ryanair.ie and "Manage booking" book it for another date..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    is it ok to still travel any where inside Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    bassy wrote: »
    is it ok to still travel any where inside Ireland.

    Coventry had a statement read on late late to avoid unnecessary travel to Europe

    I'm currently in South Kerry in self catering so very isolated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Log onto Ryanair.ie and "Manage booking" book it for another date..

    Trying it now but not getting to the next step. Possibly down to them being checked in already. Frustrating :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    Coventry had a statement read on late late to avoid unnecessary travel to Europe

    I'm currently in South Kerry in self catering so very isolated

    no im on about Ireland,as im living in Ireland is it ok to travel to other parts of the republic?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    bassy wrote: »
    no im on about Ireland,as im living in Ireland is it ok to travel to other parts of the republic?.

    I would avoid crowds so if your self catering you should be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    GBX wrote: »
    Trying it now but not getting to the next step. Possibly down to them being checked in already. Frustrating :/

    Same experience. Can't get another done because we have already checked in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    According to Twitter the Ryanair website is not doing anything. Obviously at this hour won't get anything sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    GBX wrote: »
    According to Twitter the Ryanair website is not doing anything. Obviously at this hour won't get anything sorted.

    I'd say it's just overloaded with the numbers of people trying to change flights now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    bassy wrote: »
    is it ok to still travel any where inside Ireland.

    Yes.

    It is still okay to travel outside Ireland too, to not so infected areas.

    Business as usual in most places, just while taking extra caution regarding personal hygiene and being in public..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Yes.

    It is still okay to travel outside Ireland too, to not so infected areas.

    Business as usual in most places, just while taking extra caution regarding personal hygiene and being in public..

    What about Tenerife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    bassy wrote: »
    no im on about Ireland,as im living in Ireland is it ok to travel to other parts of the republic?.

    Gobus is canceling all their services...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭FGR


    I have a trip to Lanzarote booked for the end of the month and tbh I'd rather be going than be tied down here which, afterall, is another country where the virus is present.

    We're in our late 20s without any outstanding health issues and are already following guidelines from the dept about direct contact with others.

    Decisions decisions..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    I’m off to Mexico in June, via France. Feck knows what the situation will be like by then :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Booked flights through edreams to Bali for 2 weeks in april(3rd)
    We will be stopping in Athens and Singapore.
    We have travel insurance
    If we cancel will the travel insurance pay out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    skinny90 wrote: »
    Booked flights through edreams to Bali for 2 weeks in april(3rd)
    We will be stopping in Athens and Singapore.
    We have travel insurance
    If we cancel will the travel insurance pay out?

    Nope. Not unless you physically and certified medically can’t travel or the dfa says you cannot travel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I have no idea why people would still consider travelling if all attractions, bars etc are likely to be closed. Sounds like a shyte holiday to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Got through to Ryanair customer service and there telling me I can only get unchecked in at the airport and they can't do anything as it's too late to so anything. Flight due to leave for Alicante at 10.10 but Spain on effective lock down so no travel happening because of the risks.

    The most unhelpful person kept talking over me and not taking on board that travel is not advisable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    What about Tenerife

    The Canaries and Balearics are part of Spain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    GBX wrote: »
    Got through to Ryanair customer service and there telling me I can only get unchecked in at the airport and they can't do anything as it's too late to so anything. Flight due to leave for Alicante at 10.10 but Spain on effective lock down so no travel happening because of the risks.

    The most unhelpful person kept talking over me and not taking on board that travel is not advisable.

    Been in a queue since 08:00 trying to get “unchecked-in” for a flight today, think I may as well give up at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    nibtrix wrote: »
    Been in a queue since 08:00 trying to get “unchecked-in” for a flight today, think I may as well give up at this point.

    Back on the queue now. Wouldn't connect to their number for ages. Gonna keep trying. It's the only way my parents won't lose their money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Nope. Not unless you physically and certified medically can’t travel or the dfa says you cannot travel.

    Is there anything the agent can do...move the dates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭skinny90


    I have no idea why people would still consider travelling if all attractions, bars etc are likely to be closed. Sounds like a shyte holiday to me.

    Yeah for me I don’t mind..we are avoiding all the party places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭tombrown


    Stratvs wrote: »
    The Canaries and Balearics are part of Spain.
    But, apart from that early case in a Tenerife hotel, seemingly unaffected.


    I have a holiday booked for April there, and RyanAir & AirBnB will only give refunds if travel is prohibited. "Avoid non essential travel" doesn't seem to cut it.


    So should I take the risk and treat Tenerife like I would, Austria (for example) which is "Normal Precautions" on the DFA website, and continue with the holiday unless they impose an absolute ban?


    Isn't applying the same travel advice on the Canaries as on mainland Spain a bit like saying you shouldn't travel to the Falklands if there is a Coronavirus ban on UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    tombrown wrote: »
    But, apart from that early case in a Tenerife hotel, seemingly unaffected.


    I have a holiday booked for April there, and RyanAir & AirBnB will only give refunds if travel is prohibited. "Avoid non essential travel" doesn't seem to cut it.


    So should I take the risk and treat Tenerife like I would, Austria (for example) which is "Normal Precautions" on the DFA website, and continue with the holiday unless they impose an absolute ban?


    Isn't applying the same travel advice on the Canaries as on mainland Spain a bit like saying you shouldn't travel to the Falklands if there is a Coronavirus ban on UK?

    The whole world will likely be infected soon so I'd hold out to see. I'm booked to Spain for the end of April. Advise will have changed by then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭homer911


    USA Flights not taking off this morning?

    As of 10:16 on 14/3, No USA flights have taken off from Dublin. Anyone heard anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    tombrown wrote: »
    But, apart from that early case in a Tenerife hotel, seemingly unaffected.


    I have a holiday booked for April there, and RyanAir & AirBnB will only give refunds if travel is prohibited. "Avoid non essential travel" doesn't seem to cut it.


    So should I take the risk and treat Tenerife like I would, Austria (for example) which is "Normal Precautions" on the DFA website, and continue with the holiday unless they impose an absolute ban?


    Isn't applying the same travel advice on the Canaries as on mainland Spain a bit like saying you shouldn't travel to the Falklands if there is a Coronavirus ban on UK?

    We are also booked for Tenerife in April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭johnire


    I agree totally with this comment. We’re due to travel to Argentina in a month but no matter where it was I doubt very much we’d be going as what’s the point? Almost certainly all museums,galleries and places of interest will be closed. Everything likelyhood to that restaurants bars and cafes will be shut. So again what’s the point?
    I have no idea why people would still consider travelling if all attractions, bars etc are likely to be closed. Sounds like a shyte holiday to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    tombrown wrote:
    But, apart from that early case in a Tenerife hotel, seemingly unaffected.

    It's not just the risk of you catching it. There is also a risk you could already have it yourself and pass it on.

    You are going to come into contact with hundreds of people at the airport, touch surfaces and be on a plane with recycled air.

    The whole idea of the government advisory is to lessen the risk of the disease spreading


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭tombrown


    I dont disagree, but then why dont they apply the same advice to ALL travel?


    At the moment there is no advisory restriction on flying to Austria, and yet you would have the same contact with fellow travelers as you would flying to Tenerife


    Also - doesn't sitting on a plane constitute being at an "indoor gathering of > 100 people"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    From other threads Tombrown it appears Spanish airspace is closing so our points maybe moot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    tombrown wrote: »
    I dont disagree, but then why dont they apply the same advice to ALL travel?


    At the moment there is no advisory restriction on flying to Austria, and yet you would have the same contact with fellow travelers as you would flying to Tenerife


    Also - doesn't sitting on a plane constitute being at an "indoor gathering of > 100 people"?

    I'm going and I've a terminal condition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,651 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    I'm going and I've a terminal condition

    The mind boggles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Die Hard 2019


    People are still not taking this seriously, I understand that if one has a terminal condition you might think you can't be waiting round to have some fun but other peoe should realise that they need to postpone everything till we get this virus under control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭tombrown


    People are still not taking this seriously, I understand that if one has a terminal condition you might think you can't be waiting round to have some fun but other peoe should realise that they need to postpone everything till we get this virus under control.


    Fair enough - but then why is the DFA being "half hearted" about travel advice - "No non essential travel" rather than "Do not travel" for Spain (they have the latter for Italy); "Business as usual" for Austria & other European countries when it means that to go there you will have to sit in a sealed metal tube with 200 others for a couple of hours.


    They should just come out & close the airports for all but emergency & humanitarian services, and take the decision away from people. But, no, that may mean they have to compensate airlines , and so its better to let the public play russian roulette with travel decisions, and let them carry the cost, themselves, for any cancellations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    tombrown wrote: »
    Fair enough - but then why is the DFA being "half hearted" about travel advice - "No non essential travel" rather than "Do not travel" for Spain (they have the latter for Italy);

    Italy was "avoid all non essential travel" for the guts of a week before it switched to do not travel. The DFA is not being half hearted, they're liaising with local governments and the EU. They can't just unilaterally ban travel to another EU state!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    homer911 wrote: »
    USA Flights not taking off this morning?

    As of 10:16 on 14/3, No USA flights have taken off from Dublin. Anyone heard anything?

    They will be departing, I hear US pre clearance is unusually busy and slow, understandably so given its day 1 of the new travel guidelines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    The mind boggles

    There is about 25 times more cases here than Tenerife. 1 case there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    imfml wrote: »
    They will be departing, I hear US pre clearance is unusually busy and slow, understandably so given its day 1 of the new travel guidelines

    +1 anyone with a Schengen zone passport will be getting extra questions asked of them. Even if they've lived in Ireland for the past 10 years and not been outside the country this year.

    Irish and UK passport holders will also be asked about recent travel, like if they've been to a Schengen country in the past 14 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,651 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    There is about 25 times more cases here than Tenerife. 1 case there.

    What about the airport what about the plane what about bringing it over there


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