Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

stephenjmcd

RandomName2 wrote: »

FFS annually we would have between 250-500 flu deaths in Ireland.

If we had 30,000 flu deaths annually everyone in Ireland would be dead within about two decades.

No idea when they keep getting McConkey on, he seems to pull different figures out every time he's on radio or tv

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Paul Reid refusing to comment on Tarik saying we need action to fight this. He said unilateral action is totally out of the equation and strong centralised health leadership will sort this. He says he sees a lot of holidays on the Wild Atlantic Way because the virus gets blown away by the wind and killed by UV rays but not many gigs taking place. He's delusional. He's talking now about Leo Varadkar leading us out of this.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No idea when they keep getting McConkey on, he seems to pull different figures out every time he's on radio or tv

He's saying that we have that many deaths in Ireland per year. He's saying that we could have 80-100,000 this year because of this virus.

Harry Palmr

I doubt McConkey mentioned 30k a year flu deaths, someone misheard or mistyped.

is_that_so

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Anyone listening to RTE radio news?

They have a someone in the studio talking of 20,000 minimum to 120,000 maximum deaths depending on rates of infection (up to 80%) and fatality rate (mentioned up to 4%)

That's Professor McConkey - he's had the number floating out there for a while.

stephenjmcd

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

Paul Reid refusing to comment on Tarik saying we need action to fight this. He said unilateral action is totally out of the equation and strong centralised health leadership will sort this. He says he sees a lot of holidays on the Wild Atlantic Way because the virus gets blown away by the wind and killed by UV rays but not many gigs taking place. He's delusional. He's talking now about Leo Varadkar leading us out of this.


He's saying that we have that many deaths in Ireland per year. He's saying that we could have 80-100,000 this year because of this virus.

Paul Reid couldn't run a county council properly never mind the HSE

givyjoe

Apologies if someone has already posted, I suppose the HSE are just "scaremongering" https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1236629220308156423?s=19

Rob A. Bank

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

"I predicted 20,000 as the worst case scenario...
...in a season we'd usually have 30,000 deaths from flu in Ireland. It could be 80,000-100,000 deaths."

The normal flu does indeed kill a lot of people... spread out over the whole flu season.

The BIG problem with Covid-19 is that the sick will all arrive at once over a short period of time... overwhelming the health service.

Anything that will slow the spread is valuable.

Runaways

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I doubt McConkey mentioned 30k a year flu deaths, someone misheard or mistyped.

He was talking about Ireland’s figures specifically. though

Stop with the hysteria

Gods Gift

Fookers puffing away on their vaps outside pubs and cafes. Polluting half the street here.

Would that transmit the virus??

amadangomor

thebaz wrote: »

wonder will they fast track the supposed Israel cure ??

That was Israeli propaganda. There are numerous other groups working on it- up to 20 I've heard that have a vaccine at the same stage. Could take up to a year for a vaccine to complete medical trials

otnomart

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If they aren't its madness. Nothing to stop anyone trying to escape lockdown jumping on those flights to here. And impossible to trace their interactions once here.

Do you think that anyone in Europe would decide to "escape" to Ireland today, knowing that it has: cases already in two digits, direct flights to the US and the UK (which both also have cases); shortage of hospital beds even outside of a crisis like this ?

stephenjmcd

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

Paul Reid refusing to comment on Tarik saying we need action to fight this. He said unilateral action is totally out of the equation and strong centralised health leadership will sort this. He says he sees a lot of holidays on the Wild Atlantic Way because the virus gets blown away by the wind and killed by UV rays but not many gigs taking place. He's delusional. He's talking now about Leo Varadkar leading us out of this.


He's saying that we have that many deaths in Ireland per year. He's saying that we could have 80-100,000 this year because of this virus.

Sorry i thought someone said that he said we have that many from the flu every year

is_that_so

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I doubt McConkey mentioned 30k a year flu deaths, someone misheard or mistyped.

20K. He's mentioned here, where he stands over that claim.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/we-are-in-coronavirus-land-now-and-all-is-changed-utterly-1.4195222

Duggie2012

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If they aren't its madness. Nothing to stop anyone trying to escape lockdown jumping on those flights to here. And impossible to trace their interactions once here.

I thought it said on the news that the airport in milan was still operating. How much i don't know.

ArchXStanton

megabomberman wrote: »

I am still annoyed by the fact that they decided to follow 'calm the public' playbook when they could see our neighbouring countries, only a week ahead were moving to the priming the public for disaster playbook. It confuses people and totally undermines their perceived competence.

The HSE seem to to forget they work for us, it's been noted that governments that engage with the public are having a bit more success with this virus

The Vietnamese woman who lied about being in Italy will get 5-12 years if anyone she directly spread it to dies.

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

"I had predicted 20,000 as the worst case scenario... (based off what the trajectory was two weeks ago)
...in a season we'd usually have 30,000 deaths from flu in Ireland. It could be 80,000-100,000 deaths."

Eh? 30,000 deaths from flu in a season in Ireland? Thought it was 200 to 500 according to the HSE?

Strazdas

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

Paul Reid refusing to comment on Tarik saying we need action to fight this. He said unilateral action is totally out of the equation and strong centralised health leadership will sort this. He says he sees a lot of holidays on the Wild Atlantic Way because the virus gets blown away by the wind and killed by UV rays but not many gigs taking place. He's delusional. He's talking now about Leo Varadkar leading us out of this.


He's saying that we have that many deaths in Ireland per year. He's saying that we could have 80-100,000 this year because of this virus.

He did add he thinks the St Patricks Festival should go ahead : he says he thinks outdoor events pose much less of a risk and indoor venues like the 3 Arena are far more problematic.

noodler

givyjoe wrote: »

Apologies if someone has already posted, I suppose the HSE are just "scaremongering" https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1236629220308156423?s=19

Its just the worst case.

I'd say even the limited actions to date in terms of advice, school closures etc have negated that particular number.

Call Me Jimmy

Sir Oxman wrote: »

I have seen zero traits of 'panic' in anyone I've met/spoken to etc
granted, that's just in my social movements. Indeed, without a second thought myself and an interviewer the other day nodded in greeting rather than auto-handshaking.

I haven't seen any reports of bog roll off the shelves either or any panicky empty shelves to be honest.
Where are people getting the idea that Irish people are panicked?
I've read a few posts from a very few posters here riddled with anxiety to begin with to which I'd advise self-isolate yourself from these threads (even though 95% of the posts are non-alarmist)

It's been repeated about anyone who thinks this is a serious problem since it got within striking distance of Ireland. Before that you were just a conspiracy theorist and now you're literally said to be masturbating to the developments. None of this smut about health care systems 'not being ready', Dr Mike Ryan. We have to listen to the experts. Not that expert, or that one, no those are just doom-merchant epidemiologists.

We're also said to be panicking the public but at the same time told everyone out in the real world doesn't care. Now the HSE and RTE are getting involved in the drama too.

MadYaker

embraer170 wrote: »

Have you seen the measures China has taken?

Yeah after they allowed the virus to spread freely for most of december. They had 1000s of cases before they did anything just like Iran (and italy to a lesser extent) so they had no choice but to take draconian measures. I don't think the same thing has happened here.

Bob24

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh? 30,000 deaths from flu in a season in Ireland? Thought it was 200 to 500 according to the HSE?

Yes that is correct: https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/pubinfo/adult/fluva/

stephenjmcd

Strazdas wrote: »

He did add he thinks the St Patricks Festival should go ahead : he says he thinks outdoor events pose much less of a risk and indoor venues like the 3 Arena are far more problematic.

To be fair i could see how someone might think that, space isn't as enclosed, compared to say 10k in a tight space in the 3Arena.

But St.Patrick's day in different altogether, it's outdoors but large numbers very close together

bennyl10

Also of that 1.9million(worst case protections) 1.5million(based on who) will be mild and WILL NOT require any kind of hospital treatment.

Wash hands, follow instruction, isolate if sick

odyssey06

There's approx 30,000 deaths per year in Ireland from all causes.
https://www.thejournal.ie/death-birth-registrations-ireland-4850766-Oct2019/

I'm sure McConkey either mis-spoke or was mis-reported. He was using 30,000 as the figure to show that this virus alone has the potential to cause or more number than our TOTAL number of deaths.

Harry Palmr

is_that_so wrote: »

20K. He's mentioned here, where he stands over that claim.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/we-are-in-coronavirus-land-now-and-all-is-changed-utterly-1.4195222

What? Where? 100 people died of winter flu so far. That's what I referred to - standard flu

is_that_so

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What? Where? 100 people died of winter flu so far. That's what I referred to - standard flu

Ok, but he's talking about COVID-19.

Strazdas

stephenjmcd wrote: »

To be fair i could see how someone might think that, space isn't as enclosed, compared to say 10k in a tight space in the 3Arena

Indeed, and if standing on Dame Street or Patrick Street in the open air is "unsafe", then surely the entire country is unsafe.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

RandomName2 wrote: »

Is this the:

Thread: TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED IN X
Poster: Oh you just wet yourself every time there's a terrorist attack, don't you?

Kind of shíte we are in for now?

If people are being drama queens, others will point it out. It’s a messageboard; you’re going to come up against views you don’t like or agree with.

Harry Palmr

is_that_so wrote: »

Ok, but he's talking about COVID-19.

Right, we are on the same page now - but someone else above on the previous page (by now) was clearly misquoting. That's what I responded to.