Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

dhaughton99

When did George Lee get the Science correspondent gig? Thought he was Agricultural. The jump from RTÉ to Fine Gael and back again did him no harm.

owlbethere

Cw85 wrote: »

haha no need to take it serious, 6 cases in the while country out of a population of over 4 million. The elderly and most at risk are more at risk from contracting the common flu and there's more change of them getting that.

Not really. There's a flu vaccine that many people do get.

megabomberman

Has any official made any statement about how we might be going about detecting community transmission, even though it is obviously incredibly unlikely to occur?

Wombatman

circadian wrote: »

45 pages in 4 and a half hours. What's the turnover on these threads? Every 3 or 4 days?

Think of every post as a new infected person somewhere on earth.

Funsterdelux

dhaughton99 wrote: »

When did George Lee get the Science correspondent gig? Thought he was Agricultural. The jump from RTÉ to Fine Gael and back again did him no harm.

Science and agriculture I think

Maybe he did a agri science course :P

Cw85

owlbethere wrote: »

Not really. There's a flu vaccine that many people do get.

And many don't considering 170,000 people die of the common flu every year!

Cilldara_2000

6ix wrote: »

This. There seems to be a common (and constant) misconception about why you would wear a mask.

Masks are useful to contain the sneeze or cough droplets from those who are sick. They are not useful in preventing the healthy from 'ingesting' it - unless you're talking about a hardcore mask that is properly airtight and also covers your eyes.

In cities (usually Asia) where it is common to see people wearing masks on the streets (pre-coronavirus), it's usually a polite effort to avoid spreading their cold/flu rather than trying to avoid getting sick.

But I want my placebo and to hell with everyone else!

macwal

Cw85 wrote: »

...If you get it you get it and stay at home for 14 days...

Exactly, and...


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tuxy

6ix wrote: »

This. There seems to be a common (and constant) misconception about why you would wear a mask.

Masks are useful to contain the sneeze or cough droplets from those who are sick. They are not useful in preventing the healthy from 'ingesting' it - unless you're talking about a hardcore mask that is properly airtight and also covers your eyes.

In cities (usually Asia) where it is common to see people wearing masks on the streets (pre-coronavirus), it's usually a polite effort to avoid spreading their cold/flu rather than trying to avoid getting sick.

People in many asian countries have been wearing masks while ill for a long time.
Perhaps we will adopt that now.

ILoveYourVibes

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

But I want my placebo and to hell with everyone else!

Really its a good idea to have them. You could become infected and infect your family. But if you have them then you can use them straight away if you feel unwell....even if it turns out to be just flu ..better safe. IMO if you are on public transport we should keep our germs to ourselves.

Cw85

macwal wrote: »

Exactly, and...


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Exactly, this is life

s7ryf3925pivug

An update on my earlier report of the grim situation in Limerick.

The fog lifted and (contrary to the forecast) the sun came out. The paint on the metal frame has dried now and I was able to apply a coat of varnish on the pickets which I'd removed from it before painting the frame.

So everything would be great if only this cough would go away. Much worse again this morning with a sore chest and putrid tasting sputum. The palpitations seem to have discontinued though.

It has probably already mentioned that the infected healthcare worker works in UHL.

sudzs

Wombatman wrote: »

Think of every post as a new infected person somewhere on earth.

Shush! We'll have bloody Bono on the telly clapping his hands again!

Rob A. Bank

tuxy wrote: »

People in many asian countries have been wearing masks while ill for a long time.
Perhaps we will adopt that now.

The HSE should just come clean and say that there is a shortage of masks in Ireland.. just like most western countries.

macwal

Cw85 wrote: »

The WHO state whether it's a pandemic or not, and as of yet it's not.

What will make it a pandemic?


Some of the researchers or penguins on Antarctica catching it?

Somedaythefire

Cw85 wrote: »

And many don't considering 170,000 people die of the common flu every year!

That's a world wide number where the vaccine isn't readily available for a lot of people.

gabeeg

182 new cases in Germany?

Cw85

macwal wrote: »

What will make it a pandemic?


Some of the researchers or penguins on Antarctica catching it?

Ask the WHO, it's their call

macwal

sudzs wrote: »

Shush! We'll have bloody Bono on the telly clapping his hands again!

And peeps aren't going to stop posting here either.

Kermit.de.frog

New recorded cases in China rise to 160 for the day (up from 131 this morning) + 1 new death (32 deaths for the day)

josip

josip wrote: »

Is it 2 schools in Clare that have closed or 3?
Or are reports of 3 schools closed including the school already closed in Dublin?

Three secondary schools closed in Ennistymon and national school in Inagh. Think CBS in Ennistymon and national in Inagh are closed for 14 days but other two are closed for today anyway while they suss things out.

Cw85

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That's a world wide number where the vaccine isn't readily available for a lot of people.

The flu is responsible for 200-500 deaths each year in Ireland. In a severe season it maycause up to 1,000 deaths. Every year, hundreds of people are hospitalised with flu.

The HSE beg to differ

TomSweeney

Dorian Damp Text wrote: »

An update on my earlier report of the grim situation in Limerick.

The fog lifted and (contrary to the forecast) the sun came out. The paint on the metal frame has dried now and I was able to apply a coat of varnish on the pickets which I'd removed from it before painting the frame.

So everything would be great if only this cough would go away. Much worse again this morning with a sore chest and putrid tasting sputum. The palpitations seem to have discontinued though.

It has probably already mentioned that the infected healthcare worker works in UHL..

AFAIK the CoronaVirus produces a dry cough - so unlikely you have it.

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DrumSteve wrote: »

What? Really?

The link you posted literrally says the opposite:

Oh, I just reread the bit I quoted, you're right actually that article suggests dormancy rather than re-infections in those cases.

I knew I read an article yesterday about it linking to endocrine receptors, although I can't seem to track it down now unfortunately.

The John Campbell video gives the clear explanation for reinfection though,
and I found this (regrettably Daily Mail) article which explains it as well.

It's a complete oxymoron brought about by circular logic. On the News on RTÉ 1: "We currently don't have community transmission here" "we are testing people who have had direct contact with people who have travelled from affected regions."

But how can you effectively detect community transmission if you're only testing those particular people?

On Saturday I met a person who flies all over the world and has contact with all sorts of people. She is back in her home country now and self-isolating on the advice of her government due to her risk factor. I was drinking with her for four hours. If I presented with symptoms, why would they not treat me as a potential case?

josip

josip wrote: »

Is it 2 schools in Clare that have closed or 3?
Or are reports of 3 schools closed including the school already closed in Dublin?

So it seems like 3 schools

At least one more second level school is also closed on Thursday, pending advice from health authorities.

Why is the other 2nd level school closed?

Is the other parent a teacher?



http://www.clare.fm/news/health/clare-school-shuts-pupil-tests-positive-coronavirus/

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josip wrote: »

Is it 2 schools in Clare that have closed or 3?
Or are reports of 3 schools closed including the school already closed in Dublin?

2 closed for 14 days, a National School and a Secondary School. Another 2 schools in the same location as the secondary school are closed just for today

gabeeg

Cw85 wrote: »

The flu is responsible for 200-500 deaths each year in Ireland. In a severe season it maycause up to 1,000 deaths. Every year, hundreds of people are hospitalised with flu.

The HSE beg to differ

Your numbers are way off

woohoo!!!

Keeping the rate of infection down is obviously the key. At a 0.1% infection rate and assuming a 2% mortality rate, would result in 97 deaths here. It's a figure no one wants to see but less than the number of deaths from the flu in a year. I'm just using those numbers for illustration purposes.

Multipass

Not happy to read about the hospital worker - surely anyone in that kind of job who has recently been to Northern Italy would be asked to stay home? Surely that's a no-brainer?
No pasta on the shelves in my local Tesco, that made me feel a little nervous - in case panic buying starts to create shortages.

Cw85

gabeeg wrote: »

Your numbers are way off

The Flu virus is an unpredictable virus.

If you are healthy you will usually recover in 7 days. But Flu can be severe and can cause serious illness and death.

Complications of flu include bronchitis, pneumonia, ear infections and rarely acute encephalopathy (swelling of the brain).

Serious complications of flu are more likely if you have a chronic medical condition or if you are aged 65 years or older. Pregnant women are also at increased risk of flu complications.

In Ireland, between 200 and 500 people, mainly older people, die from flu each winter.

Every year, around the world, flu causes between 3 and 5 million cases of severe disease and up to 646, 000 deaths.

Not my numbers fella, straight from the HSE website