Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Gods Gift

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

4 new cases in the west of Ireland.

One healthcare worker who carried out an emergency shift at a hospital was diagnoses with coronavirus.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-patient-worked-shift-in-emergency-department-in-west-of-ireland-1.4193756

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0304/1120173-coronavirus-vaccine/

They’re the ones announced yesterday

ILoveYourVibes

Gods Gift wrote: »

They’re the ones announced yesterday

Sorry i thought it was more recent.

Cilldara_2000

timmyntc wrote: »

150,000 people die from a plethora of causes.

If we let this spread unchecked across the globe - we could have thousands more dying every single day.

We could.

But that's not the point I was rebutting.

touts

RTE just said the HSE are working to try and find extra quarantine facilities after the 4 extra cases were diagnosed yesterday.

6 cases and we've already exceeded the number of quarantine facilities the HSE thought would be enough up to now. A sensible approach would have been to start looking into contingency plans two months ago when this virus first popped up on the radar. You have to wonder what the tens of thousands of highly paid admin staff in the HSE do all day.

josip

Is it 2 schools in Clare that have closed or 3?
Or are reports of 3 schools closed including the school already closed in Dublin?

owlbethere

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Everyone can do their part by wearing masks and gloves and avoiding meeting people or socialising, but considering a lot of people here wont even use an umbrella when it is raining I think we are doomed.
I think the HSE are useless with their approach to this. Masks and gloves are an effective defence compared to not using them, just look at Japan, During Feb 2019 Japan had 129,989 cases of Flu, 2020 with the use of mask Japan only had 44,737 case. That is a drop of over 60%, that is a huge difference.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/21/national/influenza-wave-drastically-wanes-japan-amid-spread-coronavirus/#.XmD1wpP7SjI

A brolly in Ireland is as useful as a chocolate teapot most of the time in Ireland. It does feck all when it's windy. Besides rain isn't contagious.

Funsterdelux

owlbethere wrote: »

A brolly in Ireland is as useful as a chocolate teapot most of the time in Ireland. It does feck all when it's windy. Besides rain isn't contagious.

But we've had an epidemic of it recently

:pac:

Boggles

timmyntc wrote: »

150,000 people die from a plethora of causes.

If we let this spread unchecked across the globe - we could have thousands more dying every single day.

Has anyone proposed that?

:pac:

owlbethere

Funsterdelux wrote: »

But we've had an epidemic of it recently

:pac:

For sure and one we can definitely do without

TomSweeney

ChikiChiki wrote: »

How many cases are we looking at here at EOM. I would guess close to a thousand. UK numbers are just validating the trend so far so eagerly await them today.

1,000 in Ireland ?


Even taking the doubling every 6 days that still leaves us at ~190 at EOM ...
which is still a lot, but where are you getting 1000 from ?

tuxy

owlbethere wrote: »

I was thinking this myself. What is the attraction to a Skiing holiday in Italy? It doesn't appeal to me anyways.

I've never been but it depends on if you like a more active holiday.
Skiing would appeal to me more than sitting on the beach drinking beer.

owlbethere

Weepsie wrote: »

Most people who use umbrellas too are ars3holes too as they have them too low, are impossible to walk past and near poke you in the eye

Christ, I hate brollies in cities

fr336

Padre_Pio wrote: »

But sure what's the risk if you're under 60 with no underlying medical conditions? 0.1% if you even get it? Less?

Does everyone over 60 not count then? Your parents? Grandparents? Aunts? Uncles? Not to mention retirement age is around 65 - that's a lot of people at risk economically from this. All these people not giving a hoot about the over 60s - well I hope the economy crashes for them frankly because it'll be a big "who cares these things happen" from me.

circadian

45 pages in 4 and a half hours. What's the turnover on these threads? Every 3 or 4 days?

Seamai

Weepsie wrote: »

Most people who use umbrellas too are ars3holes too as they have them too low, are impossible to walk past and near poke you in the eye

I've never noticed that here but I have in Italy, no umbrella etiquette what so ever.

tuxy

circadian wrote: »

45 pages in 4 and a half hours. What's the turnover on these threads? Every 3 or 4 days?

Yes that's about right. I do wonder if anyone has bothered to read all of them so far.

owlbethere

tuxy wrote: »

I've never been but it depends on if you like a more active holiday.
Skiing would appeal to me more than sitting on the beach drinking beer.

I'm not a beach or sun holiday person either. I like architecture, history, art

DrumSteve

Maddox Jealous Yard wrote: »

Here's one of many articles from the end of Feb which suggests that.

This, more recent one is less optimistic. So little is known about this virus currently. The only thing for sure, based on the ever-widening net of people affected, is that those advising mild cautious measures are not doing enough, given the huge loss of life even at this early stage.



John Campbell had a great video about that this morning.

What? Really?

The link you posted literrally says the opposite:

But those pathogens are very different from the new coronavirus, and experts said it’s unlikely that these are cases of people getting infected a second time.

“I’m not saying that reinfection can’t occur, will never occur, but in that short time it’s unlikely,” said Florian Krammer, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York.

Even the mildest of infections should leave at least short-term immunity against the virus in the recovering patient, he said.

More likely, the “reinfected” patients still harbored low levels of the virus when they were discharged from the hospital, and testing failed to pick it up.

Cw85

swingking wrote: »

And what about people with underlying illnesses. Should they just "get on with life"?

Should elderly and those most at risk from this virus just forget about the whole thing?

The fact is there has been a massive number of deaths around the world and it's not getting better.

I suggest you start taking this more serious.

haha no need to take it serious, 6 cases in the while country out of a population of over 4 million. The elderly and most at risk are more at risk from contracting the common flu and there's more change of them getting that.

owlbethere

tuxy wrote: »

Yes that's about right. I do wonder if anyone has bothered to read all of them so far.

Hopefully boards.ie will be going strong in 100 years from now and people in the future can read them and look back on some history.

macwal

Boggles wrote: »

Did everyone except me go to Italy a couple of weeks ago?

I thought I could hear someone else shuffling about on the island.

DrumSteve

circadian wrote: »

45 pages in 4 and a half hours. What's the turnover on these threads? Every 3 or 4 days?

Doubles every six days.

channaigh

Text sent out to CBS callan kilkenny.
Low risk contact and continue to go to school as normal.
They were also in Italy skiing

Cw85

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Erm, do you know what a pandemic is?

We can't pick or choose whether we are part of a pandemic or not.

The WHO state whether it's a pandemic or not, and as of yet it's not.

Problems for gig economy workers and this illness well illustrated in this article. I'd say a lot with mild symptoms will dismiss it as a dose of the cold/mild flu etc and keep on going due to them having f**k all employment rights with all the consequences attached.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/i-was-a-gig-economy-employee-with-a-virus-who-couldn-t-afford-to-self-isolate-1.4192967

gozunda

Dytalus wrote: »

Wearing a mask when not sick very likely is ineffective. I'm willing to listen to the world experts on this sort of thing before members of the general public. And considering countries are reporting mask shortages, it might actually be actively unhelpful. The virus can get into the body via areas not covered by anything other than a full face mask, and washing your hands regularly is much better at preventing both the spread of, and your own, infection. Plus the outside of the mask can become contaminated so unless you're careful when removing it, that can lead to your infection anyway.

Leaving the masks for people who are coughing/sneezing (either because of COVID-19 or generic flu - we're at the tail end of flu season after all), or people who are healthcare workers, is much more effective at preventing the spread of diseases than if those masks are in the hands of uninfected people who may not use or dispose of them correctly.

So you are saying it would be better for others to sneeze or cough directly into your face and get contaminated that way rather than wearing a mask and that getting contaminated? Grand so.

Wearing the correct type of mask eg N95 respiratory type will certainly help to prevent infection especially in places where close contact for an extended period is likely ie on crowded buses or trains.

You could make the same claims about not washing your hands correctly or not disposing of snotty tissues. The whole point of wearing a mask when not infected is to not get infected. If wearing a mask only cuts down only a proportion of all infections then thats a positive.

I had to laugh that it was the WHO - who started this whole anti mask thing - for one of their own to show up at a press conference wearing one. You really couldnt make it up tbh.

Funsterdelux

Im just after receiving a package from the postman and signing that thingy.

Dont forget to wash your hands!

tuxy

owlbethere wrote: »

Hopefully boards.ie will be going strong in 100 years from now and people in the future can read them and look back on some history.

History is rarely kind to people of the past. If they have such details logs in the future they will think very little of us.

s982102

Dytalus wrote: »

Wearing a mask when not sick very likely is ineffective. I'm willing to listen to the world experts on this sort of thing before members of the general public. And considering countries are reporting mask shortages, it might actually be actively unhelpful. The virus can get into the body via areas not covered by anything other than a full face mask, and washing your hands regularly is much better at preventing both the spread of, and your own, infection. Plus the outside of the mask can become contaminated so unless you're careful when removing it, that can lead to your infection anyway.

Leaving the masks for people who are coughing/sneezing (either because of COVID-19 or generic flu - we're at the tail end of flu season after all), or people who are healthcare workers, is much more effective at preventing the spread of diseases than if those masks are in the hands of uninfected people who may not use or dispose of them correctly.

Wearing masks don't guarantee to be safe. I fully agree with that. Washing hands is essential regardless wearing masks or not. But wearing masks can give extra protection than not wearing. That can stop the virus from going into the body from the nose and mouth. HSE should inform people how to properly use masks and protect themselves, not to tell people that wearing masks is useless. This is my point.


I think the reason they dont suggest wearing masks is that there aren't enough supplies. That is the problem to face and solve, and it shouldn't be a problem to go around...

6ix

Dytalus wrote: »

Wearing a mask when not sick very likely is ineffective. I'm willing to listen to the world experts on this sort of thing before members of the general public. And considering countries are reporting mask shortages, it might actually be actively unhelpful. The virus can get into the body via areas not covered by anything other than a full face mask, and washing your hands regularly is much better at preventing both the spread of, and your own, infection. Plus the outside of the mask can become contaminated so unless you're careful when removing it, that can lead to your infection anyway.

Leaving the masks for people who are coughing/sneezing (either because of COVID-19 or generic flu - we're at the tail end of flu season after all), or people who are healthcare workers, is much more effective at preventing the spread of diseases than if those masks are in the hands of uninfected people who may not use or dispose of them correctly.

This. There seems to be a common (and constant) misconception about why you would wear a mask.

Masks are useful to contain the sneeze or cough droplets from those who are sick. They are not useful in preventing the healthy from 'ingesting' it - unless you're talking about a hardcore mask that is properly airtight and also covers your eyes.

In cities (usually Asia) where it is common to see people wearing masks on the streets (pre-coronavirus), it's usually a polite effort to avoid spreading their cold/flu rather than trying to avoid getting sick.