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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Spring/Summer 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,472 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I luv storms


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,336 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Things are now looking quite active for the late overnight and Sunday morning time frame, unstable westerly flow with embedded troughs will be the scenario, possible fast moving squally showers or thunderstorms, small hail, local wind damage, under a strong jet stream that looks like it got lost on the way to October or November.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Things are now looking quite active for the late overnight and Sunday morning time frame, unstable westerly flow with embedded troughs will be the scenario, possible fast moving squally showers or thunderstorms, small hail, local wind damage, under a strong jet stream that looks like it got lost on the way to October or November.


    Any parts of the country at most risk?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    That hot spot looks around Thurles / Cashel or thereabouts ?

    Near Sligo features well.


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    I'd assume that spot is some sort of error? Hard to believe one random non-descript spot in Tipperary is by far the most thundery place in the country!

    Also locally I think I've only experienced thunder/lightning once this year so the Donegal colours seem a bit generous


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭pauldry


    The West and Northwest look like bearing the brunt of this with 120kph gusts possible in Finner or Sligo airport


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    I'd assume that spot is some sort of error? Hard to believe one random non-descript spot in Tipperary is by far the most thundery place in the country!

    Also locally I think I've only experienced thunder/lightning once this year so the Donegal colours seem a bit generous

    Must look into it further when I have time .


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    that thunder chart is certainly right for my area, south-east Meath with a grey colour showing 0 days of thunder and lightning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    What isn't an error is that blank spot through NE Kildare. Have seen f all here this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I'd assume that spot is some sort of error? Hard to believe one random non-descript spot in Tipperary is by far the most thundery place in the country!

    Also locally I think I've only experienced thunder/lightning once this year so the Donegal colours seem a bit generous

    Seems about right for here, underplaying it if anything as we had a fair amount of days with thunder observed during the first quart of the year.

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Gonzo wrote: »
    that thunder chart is certainly right for my area, south-east Meath with a grey colour showing 0 days of thunder and lightning.

    its wrong for parts of East wicklow anyway as all of east wicklow had last weekends storms
    Here in SE Wicklow I've had 3, I think


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    its wrong for parts of East wicklow anyway as all of east wicklow had last weekends storms
    Here in SE Wicklow I've had 3, I think

    Seems the map is based on Sferic data, which is at best crap and at worst, downright misleading as it only picks up a fraction of lightning occurrences in reality with a bias toward cloud to ground.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,336 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    As to potential overnight and Sunday, would say all regions have potential since the prime generator will be unstable troughs embedded in fast westerly flow. At a guess, the Galway to Dublin corridor perhaps more favoured than other areas but differential may be slight. There seems to have been a downgrade as far as met service are concerned but I was surprised to see that after first checking the latest obs since those had come in about as expected.

    In any case, this would likely become a nowcasting challenge through the period especially Sunday morning, so stay tuned, radar watching commences shortly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Gusts here 20 minutes ago, Sneem area without power.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Several sferics reported over the Irish sea this morning. Squally morning with convection about


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Met.ie showing potential thunderstorm activity in west Kerry at 6 am tomorrow.

    Any further info on the likelihood of this occurring ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Met.ie showing potential thunderstorm activity in west Kerry at 6 am tomorrow.

    Any further info on the likelihood of this occurring ?

    I would be surprised if this were to materialise. Thunderstorm activity in a relatively flat-line west-to-east flow at this time of year is quite rare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Danno wrote: »
    I would be surprised if this were to materialise. Thunderstorm activity in a relatively flat-line west-to-east flow at this time of year is quite rare.

    Met.ie now showing thunderstorms at 8 am.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 repulsebay321


    Heavy downpours in Cork in the last hour.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Fri ( low chance in the W ), early Sat morning ( passage of an unstable trough ) and Sat some chance of thunderstorms, more so Saturday from the afternoon. Charts showing cold uppers spread over the country on Saturday, decent shear and lapse rates coinciding with peak diurnal heating possible. Heavy showers, some of hail maybe. Would think the Eastern half of the country with best chance of thunderstorms as convection matures as it crosses the country from W to E. Some nice convergence near the S and E coasts.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    An interesting day Saturday perhaps during the passage of an unstable trough producing heavy showers and giving thunderstorm potential.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Hi Res AROME looking good for some thunderstorms tomorrow.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    S, SE and E look like getting the heaviest rain tomorrow afternoon as convection matures crossing the country into the evening ( parts of the Midlands and N could see heavy rain also ), a bit of spot flooding in a few places perhaps.

    DP's 12 to 14C in general .

    Thinking that it might be possible to get warnings perhaps if thunderstorms materialize to some extent in the afternoon as they progress across the country .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Scrabbel


    Fairly decent chances for E and SE this afternoon/evening according to this too:
    http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2020-07-25


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    Thunder rumbling, SE Tipp


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭cml387


    Yep, rolls of thunder in Clonmel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    cml387 wrote: »
    Yep, rolls of thunder in Clonmel.

    nice looking cell near you there


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Have a look now. Some huge cells emerging now and been aided by the sun.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Strike now just north of Cork City.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,117 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Torrential rain in Kildare


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    lights flickered, waterford city, no lighting in the area though


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