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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Spring/Summer 2020

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭sweet_trip


    Beautiful sunny evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Where exactly was it? Or what street?
    Don't have permission to share but I believe it was near Erin's isle


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    This night 35 years ago...

    https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/ireland/weather-observation/19850725-1200z.html

    Plenty of toys there to play with and review that day!


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭Alpha Romeo


    Don't have permission to share but I believe it was near Erin's isle

    Sounds about right. I live near there and I thought a bomb had gone off or something, never heard thunder that loud before!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Danno wrote: »

    Oh indeed. I'm half way through a detailed reconstruction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,117 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Don't have permission to share but I believe it was near Erin's isle

    Strike was registered over Charlestown on the Lightning’s maps


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Some brief pulse type thunderstorms today, shear looks to have been the main ingredient lacking today, plenty of rain, more so in Northern counties.

    The UK had a lot more activity from long lasting storms as they crossed the country, reports of a Tornado in Northampton.

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    https://twitter.com/nayfmeister/status/1287104977786331138?s=20

    https://twitter.com/ScottDuncanWX/status/1287107897575514113?s=20

    https://twitter.com/convectivewx/status/1287112901657010185?s=20

    https://twitter.com/Wx_NickJ/status/1287127507800662017?s=20

    https://twitter.com/NNweather/status/1287123078737211392?s=20


    The rain doesn't have to dampen spirits!!

    https://twitter.com/barrabest/status/1287105508684509185?s=20


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A great angle of the Tornado near Northampton today

    https://twitter.com/StormchaserUKEU/status/1287116144323821568?s=20

    A way more shear available in the UK today


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Small chance of a bit of thunderstorm activity in the SW tonight and maybe a bit along Southern coasts, more so out to sea later in the night/ early morning. Dp's of about 14C along SW and S coasts. Convective Weather saying some elevated convection embedded in the frontal band might become a bit active.

    Good amounts of LLS and DLS aided by Orographic lift might pop off a few bolts of lightning over the Kerry mountains but risk is quite low with low levels of CAPE and meager lapse rates, possibly on the wrong side of marginal and a very messy profile but will see what happens.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Latest ECMWF 12Z has upped the chances of lightning potential in the SW and along S and SE counties, ICON has it as well.

    Temps of 15C to 16C in Southern counties overnight with a Dp of 14C, lots of shear available and better lapse rates on this run. Models bringing the heavier rain further N on the latest runs, Met Eireann might need to change the warnings. Big changes again in a short time from the models. We will see what happens.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


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    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Looks like its a night of no sleep for me


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    https://en.sat24.com/en/gb/infraPolair

    Shows some convection building off the Clare coast and looking at the trajectory it will cross the M7 corridor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Danno wrote: »
    https://en.sat24.com/en/gb/infraPolair

    Shows some convection building off the Clare coast and looking at the trajectory it will cross the M7 corridor.

    Is it gone more north then the models predicted?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Is it gone more north then the models predicted?

    Appears to have the places in the warnings showing very little rain very heavy in Galway


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,090 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Looks like its a night of no sleep for me

    Where has all the rain gone from Cork?
    More later?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Where has all the rain gone from Cork?
    More later?

    Not sure, Cork Airport TAF is forecasting heavy rain at around 2am, i was going to stay up but the sat24 looks like the system is gone further north then predicted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Is it gone more north then the models predicted?

    Risk is always going to be low tonight for the prone areas, but might be worth keeping an eye on the badly circled black region here:

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    Drew in roughly where the warm and cold fronts are currently. Storms, if by chance they do break out, are more likely to occur where the cold (blue) front is closing in on the warm (red) front. Mountain uplifting of the airmass might help as well in helping to trigger a few sparks.

    Or, I could be just talking out of my ar.se. :o

    Edit: link to animated satellite:

    https://meteologix.com/ie/satellite/100-w-532-n/top-alert-15min/20200726-2145z.html

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Appears to have the places in the warnings showing very little rain very heavy in Galway

    Only light rain here in my part of Galway at least. Can't remember the last time we had proper heavy rain here.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Towering convection just coming onto the SW coast now. Could be an interesting night in selected areas south of the M7.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 584 ✭✭✭aisling86


    The rain the last few minutes in mid cork has been biblical


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Only light rain here in my part of Galway at least. Can't remember the last time we had proper heavy rain here.

    Nice heavy rain here in my temporary bolt hole in the east.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Convection starting to build off the south coast looking at sat24? Correct me if im wrong! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Some sparks off the south coast out to sea. Pretty heavy rain in Waterford all night


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 miamay


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Appears to have the places in the warnings showing very little rain very heavy in Galway
    Caravanning in Red Cross and it is torrential here...lying awake listening to it hammer down and glad I am not in a tent!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looks like most of the lightning activity stayed off the coast. Models correctly showed very heavy rain for Northern counties, looks like plenty in the SE also and high ground over S Kerry and W cork.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,117 ✭✭✭pad199207


    The BBC has the front crossing the country on Friday and really intensifying with what looks like heavy showers and thunderstorms


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Interesting set up all right on Fri. Front crossing the country during peak diurnal heating, moving into warmer air mass the more East it goes but will it be weakening as it reaches th E.
    LLS and DLS good, lapse rates OK, should be a notable convergence along the E between land and Sea. One to keep an eye on to see if further potential there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Nothing special here on Friday , some showers and the odd embedded strike id imagine. The fun will be for Wales and NE England.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A small bit of potential for sporadic isolated thunderstorm activity tomorrow if probably somewhat brief. Would think the best chance being in around the midlands during the morning, maybe touching the E and the NE in the afternoon as the front crosses the country. Lot of Deep layer shear available and Low level Shear, Lapse rates improve during the day ( possibly best in the NE later in the afternoon ). MUCAPE low, only a couple of hundred J/kg at best it would seem but if there was enough of the front left by the time it reached the midlands and East as the Temperature increases around midday then a few convective showers could form and might get the odd rumble. No big deal really just out of interest to see if the set up could produce some active convection but living off of scraps :pac:

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