Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Capital Gains

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121901888#Comment_121901888

Credit to Dessie and his team on the sidelines as well. He's really starting to be more tactically astute and the last few games we've played the opposition and the conditions far better.

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121903485#Comment_121903485

It is mad to think how poor Dublin were in that league where Dublin were relegated with Dessie. The Armagh match really sticks out in my mind. Then didn't Dublin play Clare in div 2 and were lucky to win etc.

Dessie did mention he made a few tweaks and he knew it would take time (after the Salthill match). The bit I don't get if it was a few tweaks, why were the results all over the shop so much for about 1 year and a half? Was it Dessie settling in trying stuff to rule them out, or was it the players who were confused?

I can't remember a time where mostly the same panel of players went on a big dip, and clawed their way back in such a short period. And not only that Dublin have a two or three young lads that are pushing for starts.

It seems the rest of country has started to appreciate the work Dessie and Dublin have done. Mostly based on simplicity and work ethic. I think Tomas O'Se and Lee Keegan must have mentioned "movement" twenty times between them.

It was great to hear two names like that being so impressed with the movement of the Dublin players. Because I was started to wonder was I imagining it, because on the main national league thread there was some chat, that football was boring. But I didn't get that at all because most of div1 and the Dublin games have been great to watch live. The movement etc.

CatInABox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121903765#Comment_121903765

Yes, it was mentioned on the commentary tonight, but I've noticed how few Dublin players are in the D before suddenly there's a runner that the ball is popped to for the score.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121903765#Comment_121903765

I am really enjoying the football games as well, a better spectacle than the hurling which sometimes looks like glorified ping-pong.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909088#Comment_121909088

Hurling has turned into a free taking competition these days. Lads are well able to pop it over the bar from well inside their own half these days. Something needs to be done because it's boring to watch.

castletownman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909262#Comment_121909262

Shush, don't mention the elephant in the room. Hurling is a protected species don't you know?

The fact is, football has been a better watch for years now.

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909262#Comment_121909262

A good suggestion on the changes in GAA thread was heavier sliothar’s. Seemed like a simple practical idea

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Anyway back to the big ball game. It has got me thinking who is the best football team to watch at the moment? Dublin obviously have to be in the conversation.

Top of my head Tyrone would be one I would think of basically because the young Canavan’s play off the cuff.

I was 50/50 on whether to go on Sunday basically because Tyrone won’t be too pushed. But thought it would be a good chance to look at the young Canavan’s progress. Plus how Dublin will cope with them.

Billy_the_Kid

As a former keeper I absolutely disagree with this!! ..but seriously I think if you reduce the ability to score frees / from distance , you increase fouling and get a more stop start game. Half forwards/midfielders cant just foul in hurling if there is a turnover (like in football). Maybe only 2 handpasses in a row would be an improvement but for all the talk, hurling is absolute magic as it is, I dont think any changes are really needed.

CatInABox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121930362#Comment_121930362

The problem with heavier balls is the same one they face with golf, it quite literally becomes an arms race, with players spending longer in the gym to work on their strength to overcome extra weight.

If you don't increase your strength, then you get left behind.

MFPM

Some performance this by Dublin.

Seadin

What a performance by Dublin. They aren't going away from the top table anytime soon.

eire4

Next weekends League Final against Derry looks like been a nice appetizer for the championship to come. Hopefully with the same outcome as in last season both in the league and the Championship.

gormdubhgorm

At the rate things are going Dublin will be unbackable for Sam.

Can only see something like complacency, injuries or lots of dismissals derailing this year. Given where Tyrone, Kerry, Derry are currently at. Dublin have seemed to go up a notch from even championship last summer, already.

billyhead

Will Cluxton return? He will have to in order to try and get that tenth AI medal.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121934279#Comment_121934279

There were only six starters from last year's All-Ireland Final starting today.

It also looked to me that we were playing with four backs, three midfielders and seven forwards.

McGinnis looks a find.

Great to see the fly goalkeeper trend taking a hammering, the Hill loved it.

rolling boh

Even if Tyrone were poor enough and will be better this was a really encouraging performance from us today .Great to see the fast direct ball up to the scoring area quickly and we made great use of it today .A lot of the younger lads did well and the subs didn't really weaken us at all .The squad is in a good place ,not sure what the Derry match will mean but they will be good if they play their best team even with one eye on the champo .

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121934678#Comment_121934678

Dennis Bastick was on radio today saying that Cluxton is still around the Dublin squad. He did not give a answer as to when he would be back. But implied it will happen at some stage.

hullabulloo

He warmed up both Comerford and sub keeper O'Hanlon today.

dunnerc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121934279#Comment_121934279

Ah Jazus steady on there , The Dominance of Dublin GAA thread will take off again 🤪

copacetic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121935663#Comment_121935663

And played for club in the morning also, so he is available it looks like. I think o’hanlon did enough to keep the spot for championship myself. Very solid performance, especially the shot choices, but Tyrone were poor. Be interesting to see which mind games Harte plays, I honestly can’t see him going all out. He’ll either rest a few or take them off early to build in a buffer to their champs games, or to give the morale a boost. Can’t risk playing full side knowing we’ll be on a different schedule looking to get people back for later in season.

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121936086#Comment_121936086

I would say Harte wouldn't be too fussed as long as the match is a close one. You would expect Derry to set up as tough to break down, and do their usual counter attacking style.

It is more an important match for Dublin as Dublin won't get a decent challenge until May. Derry have Ulster to navigate.

It surprises me how lightly Kerry took the league, as they are basically in the same position as Dublin, no decent matches until well into May now.

hullabulloo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121936086#Comment_121936086

Evan Comerford was in nets yesterday. His restarts super quick and accurate. O'Hanlon is weak under a high ball and has shown it a good few times so won't be first choice.

copacetic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121939539#Comment_121939539

I don’t think weak under the high ball is the issue it once was, they are all relatively weak under a high ball when a team is playing to that tactic, and we shuffle people around to have Howard or Gannon try to cover it. Generally that’s desperation stakes for any team to put a 50/50 high ball in on keeper, it’s usually the full backs competing. Either way, great to have proper competition in a few spots and a few more attacking backs in the mix.

Gael85

Dublin Football 2024

National League

1	27/01/2024		Dublin	1	14	17		Monaghan	3	9	18
2	03/02/2024		Dublin	0	14	14		Mayo	1	12	15
3	17/02/2024		Dublin	1	19	22		Roscommon	1	12	15
4	24/02/2024		Dublin	3	18	27		Kerry	1	14	17
5	02/03/2024		Dublin	1	16	19		Derry	1	11	14
6	16/03/2024		Dublin	0	22	22		Galway	0	14	14
7	24/03/2024		Dublin	5	18	33		Tyrone	0	12	12
8	31/03/2024		Dublin					Derry
				11	121	154			7	84	105

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
O'Hanlon, David	1	1	1	1	1
Gannon, Lee	2	4	4	5	7	3
MacMahon, Sean	3	3	2	2	2		2
Murchan, Eoin	4		5	4	4		4
McEneaney, Greg	5	5	19	20	20
Murphy, Cian	6	6	6	6	5	4	5
McCaffrey, Jack	7	7				18
Fenton, Brian	8	8	8	8	8	8	8
Kilkenny, Ciaran	9	12	12	12	15	12	11
Small, Paddy	10	13	15	13	13
O'Dell, Lorcan	11	20	18	19	19	20	15
McGarry, Ross	12	10	10	15	12	10	12
Costello, Cormac	13	15	13		18
O'Callaghan, Con	14	11	14	14	14	14	14
Breathnach, Luke	15
McCarthy, James	17
Basquel, Colm	18	14				17	13
O'Gara, Killian	19	21				13
Scully, Niall	20	18	17	10	10	15	10
Clancy, Theo	21	2	3	3		21	17
Bugler, Sean		9	11	11	11	11
Small, John		17	7	7	6	7
O'Cofaigh Byrne, Peadar		19	9	9	9		19
Howard, Brian			20	18	3	6	6
McGinnis, Killian			21	21	21	5	9
Lowry, Sean			22
Lahiff, Tom				17	17	9	7
Newcombe, Daire				22		2	3
Comerford, Evan						1	1
Mannion, Paul						19	18
O'Leary, Brian							20
O'Connor, Cian							21
Forker, Senan							22

Player	Goals	Points	Total
O'Callaghan, Con	3	29	38
Costello, Cormac	2	8	14
McGarry, Ross	0	13	13
Kilkenny, Ciaran	0	11	11
Basquel, Colm	2	5	11
Bugler, Sean	0	9	9
Fenton, Brian	0	8	8
O'Dell, Lorcan	1	4	7
Scully, Niall	2	1	7
Small, Paddy	0	6	6
McGinnis, Killian	0	5	5
Murphy, Cian	1	2	5
Gannon, Lee	0	3	3
Lahiff, Tom	0	3	3
O'Hanlon, David	0	3	3
Mannion, Paul	0	2	2
McCaffrey, Jack	0	2	2
Breathnach, Luke	0	1	1
Comerford, Evan	0	1	1
MacMahon, Sean	0	1	1
McEneaney, Greg	0	1	1
Murchan, Eoin	0	1	1
O'Gara, Killian	0	1	1
Small, John	0	1	1
	11	121	154

gormdubhgorm

Article on 2014 U21 All-Ireland Winning team. A lot of All-Ireland’s gobbled up. Even if many were on the fringes of the senior starting team.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41364058.html

Redsoxfan

Conor McHugh having that many medals was a surprise to me. Very rarely used iirc?

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121958473#Comment_121958473

Exactly. That surprised me as well. Always just about made the panel for age’s but never broke through. I remember McHugh was touted as the next great Dublin forward, when he first appeared at underage. Remember seen him at minor where he stood out.

I think it was just aggressiveness in his play he lacked, to break through senior properly.

MFPM

Sloppy enough by Dublin so far, fair few unforced errors on the ball.

JRant

That's never a penalty

MFPM

Dublin not at it today at all. Bad habits of early league are back.