Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

thebaz

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

and India - has only reported 3 or 4 cases - I thought that would be one of first disaster zones - happily , doesnt not seam to be.

Mwengwe

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

I wonder is ramping up the heating in workspaces an option?

SeaBreezes

SusanC10 wrote: »

Wonder what this week will bring ?

Husband gone on public transport to work in Dublin. Kids gone on School Buses. All with Hand Gel. Son told me at weekend that his (Secondary) school doesn't have hot water or soap in most bathrooms.

Out with friends at the weekend. Only one friend slightly concerned but she has a son with an underlying condition. No one else we know seem remotely bothered.

In Tesco yesterday. If anything it was less busy for a Sunday. Most anti-bacterial products sold out but other than that no shortages.

Did a stock-take of food, toiletries, meds etc here at home and added a few things. Probably with a bit of rationing of teenage son's eating habits, could last a few weeks.

My Mum (elderly plus underlying condition) did her stint as Minister for Eucharist. Priest announced Communion into hands only. Large bottle of Hand Gel provided for Ministers. She did get one man who opened his mouth but she told him hands only.

We are due to go to UK at Easter and Italy in late June. Husband has work trips to both France and Germany coming up.

Still a bit nervous of this whole thing especially for my Mum and one of my sisters who both have underlying conditions.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

Human body temp is 37? It seems to be thriving?

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tillyfilly wrote: »

a BMW worker in Munich has contracted coronavirus

I work at BMW in Munich. It was announced interally at 12:00 exactly. At 12:03 it was in every German newspaper. **** travels fast.

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iguana wrote: »

The mortality rate is currently 6% for closed cases.

It's dropping all the time too.

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Steyr 556 wrote: »

Turkey has ended the agreement with the EU and is letting migrants go onto Greece.

Would be a nightmare scenario for large groups of people crossing multiple borders to get sick.

Ideally (won't happen) Turkey will now refund the €2/3bn or so, the EU gave them for free, to help them assist in catering for the 3-4m migrants within their huge expanse of a country.

Cupatae

BanditLuke wrote: »

Funny but you are the only one mentioning it.

Did you not want to lock down citys and shut the country down a few posts ago, ala china style?? or did i imagine that?

SafeSurfer

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

There is no evidence to suggest that seasonal temperature variation will have any impact on the spread of the virus.

Downlinz

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

That seems like a realistic possibility at least considering the low number of cases in the southern hemisphere. Although it's not much help for a cool climate like Ireland.

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Clementine Rough Keynote wrote: »

Ideally (won't happen) Turkey will now refund the €2/3bn or so, the EU gave them for free, to help them assist in catering for the 3-4m migrants within their huge expanse of a country.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening.

SeaBreezes

It's not spreading in Thailand.... but they have a HUGE increase in viral pneumonia at the moment. Odd, isn't it?

Just came from my gym. A man using it has a dreadful snotty cold on him and wiped the slime from his nose with his gloved hands, then proceeded to use weight machines with same hands. I don’t believe at all that he has Covid-19 as it doesn’t usually manifest as a cold, but is indicative of the lack of hygiene consciousness that’s out there. On entry the gym was verifying g people’s contact numbers.

jam_mac_jam

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I received a wassup yesterday. Seemingly it cannot survive above 26. The Italians are sighting this for complacency. Average temps will be at 28 by mid April.

*Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*

Seemingly this is why it is not Spreading in Thailand ( 43 cases ), Cambodia ( remarkably difficult to source data, and Southern Laos( no cases reported)

https://laotiantimes.com/2020/02/04/why-laos-has-not-reported-any-coronavirus-cases/

I am not pretending to be an expert, but it is making sense about the temperature. I would love to know what is happening in Cambodia.

So your source is a whatssap message. I see.

ArchXStanton

When all this blows over someone would want to tell the Chinese to stop eating s**t

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BarryD2 wrote: »

Of course it is well known and reported to be Scoil Chaitríona at this stage: https://www.thesun.ie/news/5155446/coronavirus-dublin-school-scoil-chaitriona-shut-down-for-two-weeks/



If my neighbour down the road has this Coronavirus, they I Sean Citizen want to know about it. It's as simple as that. This is Ireland not some totalitarian state that decides what it's citizens should and shouldn't know. If I had it or someone in this household, yes I would want the people to be aware of it.

First thing first. The most important thing is that your neighbour down the road is identified. If you neighbour is not seriously ill and is reluctant to come forward to the HSE, it is a much greater problem. Chances are you will know after they come forward but you will not know at all otherwise. If the HSE start publically giving out potentially personally identifying information it will discourage some.

BanditLuke

Cupatae wrote: »

Did you not want to lock down citys and shut the country down a few posts ago, ala china style?? or did i imagine that?

Yeap that's correct. You said the apocalypse though, you do know the difference right, right?

Drumpot

SafeSurfer wrote: »

There is no evidence to suggest that seasonal temperature variation will have any impact on the spread of the virus.

I thought it was more a case that it reduces the spread through surfaces, as in the virus effectively dies quicker on surfaces in hotter temps ?! And you are correct, they still arent 100% sure about all the ways the virus spreads.

Phoebas

BarryD2 wrote: »

If my neighbour down the road has this Coronavirus, they I Sean Citizen want to know about it. It's as simple as that.

And do we all get access to your medical status?

As a citizen I demand your records. :mad:

Cupatae

There was a good point brought up on the news there, will people be willing to self isolate if they cant afford to do so, will people be paid while in self isolation ?

cnocbui

quokula wrote: »

There's ongoing research into the relationship between social media and suicide rates. For every one person who's died of coronavirus in the last year, about 350 people have died of suicide. This study suggests ~20% of suicides were related to Social Media. Which means it's killed 70 times as many people as Coronavirus, through this vector alone.

As for economic impacts, where does this figure of hundreds of thousands of people made unemployed come from? I don't have any data but I'd hazard a guess that the rise of social media as a means of spreading misinformation and fake news that has lead to people like Trump, Salvini and Bolsonaro get to power has cost a lot more. Not to mention these type of populist's disregard for environmental policies contributing to the 7 million pollution related deaths per year.

From the study you referenced:

The generalisability of these findings is unclear. The findings may solely reflect greater use of social media: this is supported by the increasing number of deaths involving an element of social media use occurring in each of the three years studied. However, it is notable that fewer than 20% of Facebook users are aged over 45,4 contrasting with the demographics of the social media subset.

The trouble with that sort of study is there is no control group and literally no way of knowing what would have happened to the facebook users who did suicide, in the long term, had facebook not existed. In 1950 the suicide rate in the US was 13.2 per 100K. In 2017 it was 14. I think it is drawing a very long bow to suggest social media use is a 'cause'.

The economic figures I have made up. I think i am understating them significantly. Tourism is responsible for 10% of Global GDP and a similar figure for employment. The airline industry is severely overcrowded and profits for many operators are marginal. I expect a number of these airlines are probably already finished and beyond being salvageable. Do you think the cruise ship industry is going to be doing a roaring trade anytime in the next 6 months? Each of the many ships employs well over a thousand people. The flow -on effect from the cessation of revenues in the tourist industries affected will likewise probably be very substantial.

This isn't something that is going to be over in two months, unfortunately. I think the economic consequences of what is unfolding are going to be utterly terrible and way beyond anything social media could or have caused.

Employment under Trump has not declined - it is largely due to Obama's economic recovery anyway. So given the state of the US economy, I don't think you have any basis to say social medias influence on elections has had a negative economic impact. There are many other negatives, but not in terms of immediate economic performance.

Cupatae

BanditLuke wrote: »

Yeap that's correct. You said the apocalypse though, you do know the difference right, right?

:D:D stop just stop lol

BanditLuke

SeaBreezes wrote: »

It's not spreading in Thailand.... but they have a HUGE increase in viral pneumonia at the moment. Odd, isn't it?

Tourism sector.

That is all.

jam_mac_jam

SeaBreezes wrote: »

It's not spreading in Thailand.... but they have a HUGE increase in viral pneumonia at the moment. Odd, isn't it?

Might be connected to their huge tourism industry I would think.

odyssey06

Cupatae wrote: »

There was a good point brought up on the news there, will people be willing to self isolate if they cant afford to do so, will people be paid while in self isolation ?

Similar question, will employers be reimbursed if they do continue to pay employees...

cnocbui

Deleted User wrote: »

Just came from my gym. A man using it has a dreadful snotty cold on him and wiped the slime from his nose with his gloved hands, then proceeded to use weight machines with same hands. I don’t believe at all that he has Covid-19 as it doesn’t usually manifest as a cold, but is indicative of the lack of hygiene consciousness that’s out there. On entry the gym was verifying g people’s contact numbers.

I hope you deployed your axe in an appropriate proportionate manner.

BanditLuke

Cupatae wrote: »

:D:D stop just stop lol

So i take that as a no.

Regards, Luke

Cupatae

odyssey06 wrote: »

Similar question, will employers be reimbursed if they do continue to pay employees...

Yeah its a tough one, not to mention the "self isolation" is only asking to be exploited if its paid.

Cupatae

Cupatae wrote: »

There was a good point brought up on the news there, will people be willing to self isolate if they cant afford to do so, will people be paid while in self isolation ?

France is paying their citizens for 20 days. I assume that would have to be certified before payment though.

Christy42

Mwengwe wrote: »

I wonder is ramping up the heating in workspaces an option?

The poster is not being serious I suspect.

The link has nothing to do with temperature. As has been pointed out the human body is above 26 degrees as is and tends to attempt to overheat viruses anyway (hence running a temperature) so it can likely survive high enough temperatures.

I see Joe won't be on liveline today...

Conspiracy theories in 5..4..3..2...